Tors Posted January 9, 2019 Report Share Posted January 9, 2019 Could someone explain to me, what are the correct propotions of a dream and shape shifting demonlike tyrant? There seems to be some norm i am not familiar with. 1 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxooo Posted January 9, 2019 Report Share Posted January 9, 2019 That's it ! i found what that Chompy render looks like to me : a Monster Inc Monster but ... when he's on a coffee break.. 😁 Hard to take him seriously after that ^^ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solkan Posted January 9, 2019 Report Share Posted January 9, 2019 No, not Gritty Teen Protagonist in a YA novel Dreamer! 😱... 🙃 It looks like LCB's continuing to suffer from Chronic Base Overhang with those new arms, though. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inefficiency_Expert Posted January 9, 2019 Report Share Posted January 9, 2019 It's very hard to get a six pack when your entire torso is a mouth. Also while I miss the adorable malevolence of the old school dream critters I do dig that they are getting scarier as the dreamer gets older and more traumatized. 1 3 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Franchute Posted January 9, 2019 Report Share Posted January 9, 2019 Just want to give some positive comments here. Some people have been complaining in the past months about the new comic style art of Malifaux. I'd like to say that I like both the art and the renders of the new Dreamer. I liked a lot the previous version of the dreamer and the idea of a boy making his nightmares reality, but, given that the boy has to grow up, I am very satisfied with this style. This is a box I'd like to buy. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnomezilla Posted January 9, 2019 Report Share Posted January 9, 2019 Given the relative age of the new Dreamer, I must see the new daydreams painted in black with exxxtreme fluorescent retina-searing highlights. Based with flames and about ten million skulls. What do we call this for short? Alt-Dreamer and alt-LCB and so on? 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbtb11235813 Posted January 9, 2019 Report Share Posted January 9, 2019 4 minutes ago, Gnomezilla said: What do we call this for short? Alt-Dreamer and alt-LCB and so on? I mean its not really an alt (it is but it isn't). Unless you consider the 2e model an alt for his 1e model. I propose Teenage Dream(er) and Lord Chunky Bits 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doomikov Posted January 9, 2019 Report Share Posted January 9, 2019 Is The Dreamer flipping us the bird in the English style? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnomezilla Posted January 9, 2019 Report Share Posted January 9, 2019 6 minutes ago, cbtb11235813 said: I mean its not really an alt (it is but it isn't). Unless you consider the 2e model an alt for his 1e model. I propose Teenage Dream(er) and Lord Chunky Bits Oh yeah, nicknames for days! But if many crew boxes are getting new sculpts then standardized terms will have to happen eventually. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbtb11235813 Posted January 9, 2019 Report Share Posted January 9, 2019 1 minute ago, Gnomezilla said: Oh yeah, nicknames for days! But if many crew boxes are getting new sculpts then standardized terms will have to happen eventually. Probably just "3e Dreamer" and "3e Chompy". Calling them alts would get confusing because some masters already have alts (looking at you Rasputina...) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nomadicXnightmare Posted January 9, 2019 Report Share Posted January 9, 2019 36 minutes ago, Doomikov said: Is The Dreamer flipping us the bird in the English style? You noticed that too huh? Dunno if it was intentional (betting it was - Wyrd is cheeky like that), but it fits with the new Dreamer 'tude. 😉 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davie Posted January 9, 2019 Report Share Posted January 9, 2019 1 hour ago, Doomikov said: Is The Dreamer flipping us the bird in the English style? yeah and besides that his grin makes him look like a total a**hole. I like it! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
necroon Posted January 9, 2019 Report Share Posted January 9, 2019 "Why the long face there, LCB?" (Incomprehensible slurping and screeching noises) I do like the Dreamer, Coppelius, and.... Alps? Are those Alps? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doomikov Posted January 9, 2019 Report Share Posted January 9, 2019 1 hour ago, nomadicXnightmare said: You noticed that too huh? Dunno if it was intentional (betting it was - Wyrd is cheeky like that), but it fits with the new Dreamer 'tude. 😉 Made me laugh a little when I saw it. Of course I am waiting for some one to be offended by it since we live in an ultra-pc world now. Takes me back to the kerfuffle over M2E Viks when Blood wasn't wearing a shirt but just had two belts across her chest. Luckily the White Knights came to her "rescue" getting her that vest that she ended up with. 👍 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bakuriel Posted January 9, 2019 Report Share Posted January 9, 2019 Does this mean I can use Deathclaw models as proxies for the new alps, or whatever they are? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kharnage Posted January 9, 2019 Report Share Posted January 9, 2019 1 minute ago, Bakuriel said: Deathclaw models as proxies Deathclaw models where, I give money Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bakuriel Posted January 9, 2019 Report Share Posted January 9, 2019 Just now, Kharnage said: Deathclaw models where, I give money Fallout wasteland warfare Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kharnage Posted January 9, 2019 Report Share Posted January 9, 2019 1 minute ago, Bakuriel said: Fallout wasteland warfare Oh my goodness, they have it all. The mutants are even basically wielding relic hammers. I see 'freikorpsmann' and desperate mercenaries. What a gold mine. Thank you sir 🤘 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saduhem Posted January 9, 2019 Report Share Posted January 9, 2019 I hope those are alps, and I want them yesterday! I can totally see a troubled growing dreamer going full anarchist! I am concerned about overall theme in Neverborn though. Twisted innocence? Gone. Dreamer has grown up and left teddies and cuteness behind. Puppet Master and Creepy dolls? No longer Neverborn and, as far as we've seen in the Beta, part of a pseudo-faction with wonky hiring pools, no upgrades, and only conditionally allowed in tournaments. Hoping to see the guy in The Other Side or Book 2 is the best we can hope for. Fairy court? Gone too. There is only 1 knight now and the crew doesn't have any Fae Court theme left. There's only one attack action that refers to it in name, but it's a terrain marker push. Maybe we're just going towards a more Heavy Metal looking faction looking at Euripides and some of the Dreamer art (No complaints there, the last concert I went to was Black Sabbath's), or we're just targeting a different demographic, but Neverborn feels very different now. 2 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trikk Posted January 9, 2019 Report Share Posted January 9, 2019 6 minutes ago, Saduhem said: Fairy court? Gone too. There is only 1 knight now and the crew doesn't have any Fae Court theme left. There's only one attack action that refers to it in name, but it's a terrain marker push. There is 1 knight profile but you can still field 3 knights. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saduhem Posted January 9, 2019 Report Share Posted January 9, 2019 1 minute ago, trikk said: There is 1 knight profile but you can still field 3 knights. Sure, I didn't think I implied anything different. They're the same model now. No season-related name and attacks/abilities. Nothing on the card that makes them Fae or Courtly. I'm trying to not put too much balance-related talk in here just yet, but you're really never going to want more than one of those guys especially considering their price and that the timing on their trigger only happens if you fail to hit a def 4 model against a ram. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trikk Posted January 9, 2019 Report Share Posted January 9, 2019 Just now, Saduhem said: Sure, I didn't think I implied anything different. They're the same model now. No season-related name and attacks/abilities. Nothing on the card that makes them Fae or Courtly. I'm trying to not put too much balance-related talk in here just yet, but you're really never going to want more than one of those guys especially considering their price and that the timing on their trigger only happens if you fail to hit a def 4 model against a ram. Oh, ok. I just wanted to say that the fact you had 3 similar-but-different models was cool thematically but was a real PITA for me as an opponent. I never knew exactly which one did what... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saduhem Posted January 9, 2019 Report Share Posted January 9, 2019 4 minutes ago, trikk said: Oh, ok. I just wanted to say that the fact you had 3 similar-but-different models was cool thematically but was a real PITA for me as an opponent. I never knew exactly which one did what... I can see that. I had some people scratch their head when playing transmortis! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alerteddonkey42 Posted January 9, 2019 Report Share Posted January 9, 2019 I like these new sculpts a lot... Except for LCB. His previous sculpt look more menacing and badass. This one just doesn't strike me in the same way. Oh well, take the bad with the good. The new Coppelius looks awesome and I like the general style change for the crew. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nomadicXnightmare Posted January 9, 2019 Report Share Posted January 9, 2019 10 minutes ago, Saduhem said: Twisted innocence? Gone. Dreamer has grown up and left teddies and cuteness behind. Puppet Master and Creepy dolls? No longer Neverborn and, as far as we've seen in the Beta, part of a pseudo-faction with wonky hiring pools, no upgrades, and only conditionally allowed in tournaments. Hoping to see the guy in The Other Side or Book 2 is the best we can hope for. Fairy court? Gone too. There is only 1 knight now and the crew doesn't have any Fae Court theme left. There's only one attack action that refers to it in name, but it's a terrain marker push. Teddies still have the Nightmare keyword, so they haven't been left behind at all. Cuteness is debatable. While Collodi and his marionettes have moved to DMH, everything else is still there (most being versatile models to boot). Further, with the push for Henchmen led crews being a thing, both Widow Weaver and Hamamatsu can fill the "puppet master" role if you prefer that theme. At least till Collodi comes back to Neverborn proper in some future release (fingers crossed). The Fairy Court theme isn't "gone", it's just not reflected in individual abilities/action names as much and, as you pointed out, three individual models got consolidated into a single unit type. Simplification is part of the goal of ME3 and, although admittedly some flavor is lost on individual cards as a result, the models themselves and the fluff I'm sure will reflect that the Fairy Court theme is alive and well. I'm a big fan of Dreamer's old theme and it's partially what got me into Malifaux in the first place. But lets wait and see how the rest of the crew aesthetics play out before we get too concerned over Neverborn's "overall theme". 😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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