SEV 217 Posted February 28 Report Share Posted February 28 11 minutes ago, ooshawn said: i'm US eastern standard time, and i'm comfortable with vassal, though not as much as most of these guys This is not Faux, but I would like to see a Master beatdown competition (5 rounds), March madness single elimination style š. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ooshawn 81 Posted February 28 Author Report Share Posted February 28 I gotta be honest, that actually does sound kinda quick and funĀ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Corwin 69 Posted February 28 Report Share Posted February 28 20 minutes ago, SEV said: This is not Faux, but I would like to see a Master beatdown competition (5 rounds), March madness single elimination style š. In the old days when we could all hang out in a storeĀ together the local Henchman ran a March madness event each year. A $5 buy in, winner gets the pot. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Maniacal_cackle 1,510 Posted March 1 Report Share Posted March 1 On the topic of why Aeslin, Into Thorns is a crazy good trigger. Anything that let's you reposition enemy models can win games. It can secure kills safely, it can deny points, etc. 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Maniacal_cackle 1,510 Posted March 1 Report Share Posted March 1 Our local Titania player has dragged models around the table with it. It is pretty brutal when used multiple times on a single model. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ooshawn 81 Posted March 1 Author Report Share Posted March 1 yeah , but you gotta also understand i'm coming from the PoV of a complete fae crew where every single model has that Crow trigger. The value of the melee attack goes up substantially if that goes off, but if it doesn't , it's at best okayish. The whole crew fights for those crows Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Maniacal_cackle 1,510 Posted March 1 Report Share Posted March 1 2 minutes ago, ooshawn said: yeah , but you gotta also understand i'm coming from the PoV of a complete fae crew where every single model has that Crow trigger. The value of the melee attack goes up substantially if that goes off, but if it doesn't , it's at best okayish. The whole crew fights for those crows Henchmen can stone for suits. Not to mention she can use her ranged ability even when engaged, which has it built in. I'm not sure I've ever seen Aeslin use her melee attack. It is probably a secondary consideration xD There should rarely be a situation where you want the trigger and can't get it with Aeslin. Not having to fight for high crows is exactly one of the reasons she appeals. 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ooshawn 81 Posted March 1 Author Report Share Posted March 1 8ss for 2x min 3 shots, IF there is a marker there. I'd just have to see it I guess, someone will have to play her vs me. A rou. has a teleport, condition removal, h2w, flay with 6 severe damage. just seems better than aeslin for the points Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Alcathous 146 Posted March 1 Report Share Posted March 1 5 hours ago, ooshawn said: 8ss for 2x min 3 shots, IF there is a marker there. I'd just have to see it I guess, someone will have to play her vs me. A rou. has a teleport, condition removal, h2w, flay with 6 severe damage. just seems better than aeslin for the points The fact that Aeslin can sit 8" off center on effect the conflict is huge. Aside from min 3, you're setting up for big plays for another model with the injured. Aeslin isn't and solo champion, but she is an aggresive support model that wins games for those who learn how to use her. Bonus points for secret scheming with Study and Draw Out Secrets. Rougs have to be in melee to get their min 2 attack off. It's only min 3 if you have the card. I don't often stone to keep Aeslin alive, but also I don't often have to because she's a ranged model that should always have a frontĀ line to support her. Rougaru are great runner hunters and late game marauders, but DF 4 is enough of a downside that they cannot create the anvil that Aeslin + tank can be. Ā 3 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkoon 252 Posted March 1 Report Share Posted March 1 4 hours ago, Alcathous said: The fact that Aeslin can sit 8" off center on effect the conflict is huge. Aside from min 3, you're setting up for big plays for another model with the injured. Aeslin isn't and solo champion, but she is an aggresive support model that wins games for those who learn how to use her. Bonus points for secret scheming with Study and Draw Out Secrets. Rougs have to be in melee to get their min 2 attack off. It's only min 3 if you have the card. I don't often stone to keep Aeslin alive, but also I don't often have to because she's a ranged model that should always have a frontĀ line to support her. Rougaru are great runner hunters and late game marauders, but DF 4 is enough of a downside that they cannot create the anvil that Aeslin + tank can be. Ā I think you're completly right here. I think a lot of the theaoryfaux going on spends way too much time discussing killing, when we should discuss scoring. The fact that Aeslin can use a SS for draw out secrets to place a potentially scoring maker is often overlooked, and something Neverborn has very few other options for doing reliably. 1 1 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
katadder 674 Posted March 1 Report Share Posted March 1 she is probably my 2nd most played master after schill, and certainly most played in NVB and I always take aeslin. She has study as well as the trigger for draw out secrets.Ā 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Azahul 131 Posted March 1 Report Share Posted March 1 Likewise, I don't think I've ever seen Aeslin attack a model that wasn't within 2" of Underbrush. When the entire crew can make them and Titania can move them and a bunch start where the combat is going to be anyway it's pretty trivial. Anywhere Aeslin wants to shoot is basically guaranteed to have a marker. Ā In addition to how good she is at scoring, it's worth noting that she applies Injured on an AOE attack that moves its target. She can get Injured onto so many important targets so easily. First shot to move the initial target, second to get the injured onto another 1-2 models that might set up another model for an easier kill. Ā Titania and Aeslin both benefit enormously from having their min three attacks on range 8 instead of melee like most beaters. That means any model that wants to retaliate needs to spend one, maybe two AP (due to the quantity of Severe terrain and/or the opponent being staggered) closing the gap, greatly improving their durability. They're great pieces. 3 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ooshawn 81 Posted March 1 Author Report Share Posted March 1 someone show me their strats, i want to learn the ways...teach meeeeeeeeeeeeeee Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cats Laughing 188 Posted March 1 Report Share Posted March 1 Side note, we played a Keyword escalation league when M3E came out and I took the Fae keywordĀ which meant Aeslin was my Henchman leader for the first game. 3 AP on Aeslin feels soooooĀ much better than just 2. Being able to move and then Decay twice was quite nice. Ā Also as others have noted, Titania's ranged (no gun) attack is often better than the melee attack, and the Into Thorns trigger moving opponents around into or out of melee as needed can be quite useful control on top of the extra damage.Ā Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ooshawn 81 Posted March 2 Author Report Share Posted March 2 i want a escalation league..... so badly. with injuries , upgrades, equipment etc Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Adran 4,509 Posted March 2 Report Share Posted March 2 7 hours ago, ooshawn said: i want a escalation league..... so badly. with injuries , upgrades, equipment etc There are people that have adapted the M2 set to use in M3.Ā From memory the largest choice is do you use the updated M3 ability effects or the M2 abilities as written on the card. I don't think either breaks the game, its probably more what works best for your players. (If they are new to M3, they might not know the M3 shove asideĀ rules for example because they don't own an M3 shove asideĀ modelĀ ) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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