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Having used this crew a 2nd time i really think this is a great crew going forwards

With a 12" drop for markers this isn't difficult and with well rehearsed and the medical automaton he's actually possibly faster. Add in he has a possible 3 pushes with one of them needing no cards I found he was more useful than my bear ( I swapped cojo in for 1 bear so still had 1)

Just used the list but with a well rehearsed cojo. Cojo is much better for this than the bears I think due to his auto push if set up right and all his push triggers if needed on his melee. Admittedly mostly use the ml7 attack then followed up with his 0 but he killed Francisco and a guild investigator and nearly had lady J too

Maybe not seeing it but df6 with no defensive tech dies easily (misaki always did before Marlena arrived and she has positives). Willing to be proved wrong but with the new upgrade I would put von Schill ahead of Parker and I class misaki higher too

Learning curves all depend on the player, if you pick it up quick enough and are experienced in other games you will not take as long to start winning (i came 2nd in my 2nd ever tourney). As for needing all the models, no you dont. I have alot of outcasts but still dont have some of the models others say to pick (like nothing beast or hannah) but I am doing well this year in my year of outcasts.

no i dont, always cool to play new people though. have only played parker once and that in a friendly, probably because most people dont rate him as outcasts generally have better masters (he is considered the worst one i believe). he did get off to an early lead with scheme marker shenanigans but then died very quickly with no issues after that for me. would be good to play against a veteran parker player but still dont see what he brings over other masters or to get him to top table.

lol Russian Meta, doubt you would use either anywhere else and certainly not top table with them

She has other uses. Card manipulation is nice and ca9 whilst standing on the centre line plus card draw. I like her but she is easy to take down. Should probably be a 7ss model

I must be odd then as I get great use out of bishop and taelor bringing at least 1 and sometimes both in most crews. Some time use from Lazarus but he often doesn't do alot. Sue is our best enforcer but others have their places Edit: out of 16 currently built outcast crews I only have 4 that don't have either taelor or bishop and 3 of my crews have both of them 😀

A gunline you could try is as follows. All fairly capable in melee too and vanessa can command lazarus so they tens to operate close together. Can also swap out Vanessa for Marlena as Lazarus could then copy her attack: Declared Faction: Outcasts Crew Name: levi 50ss Leader: Leveticus - Cache:(3) Desolate Soul 2ss Tally Sheet 1ss Untimely Demise 1ss Hollow Waif 0ss Hollow Waif 0ss Rusty Alyce 10ss Desolate Soul 2ss Sue 8ss Return Fire 1ss Lazarus 10ss Scout the Field 1ss Vanessa 8ss Hodgepodge Effigy 4ss

it is quite easy to go to events with fixed crews so in no way is this pay to win I have won 3 events with fixed and podiumed plus done well in others, even came in the top half of a nationals using fixed crew mei feng all weekend (and believe I would have come higher if I didnt face the same opponent twice at the end of the sunday)

I rarely play with pariah.have used bone since wave 5 for kentauroi but even then most my crews are full outcast

I dont think Nico is that bad, he just requires more corpse markers to do what he did before (and doesnt get 25% of the deck to counter any weakness)

I dunno, Lady J is really good and have faced some nasty Lucius crews. But Nellie like Sandeep in arcanists is just too good at everything to ever not be picked by guild players, and in alot of other factions she would also be the top pick. She is very much on a par with Sandeep in power level

think the nico change is over the top, undertaker was needed but not the summoning. sandeep changes I am happy with, although now I have to guess more what an arcanist opponent will bring instead of building for nico. where are changes to nellie? as same reasoning behind sandeep effects her, shes is far and away the number one guild pick