Kharnage Posted June 27, 2019 Report Share Posted June 27, 2019 Just what it says on the tin. I've gone through my corner of cards and nothing changed, but I'm wondering what changed, if anything, since the end of Beta. Anyone found anything? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fetid Strumpet Posted June 27, 2019 Report Share Posted June 27, 2019 They fixed the exploit on Yan Lo’s rebuild corpus. Renamed and slightly reworked Philip’s melee attack. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jinn Posted June 27, 2019 Report Share Posted June 27, 2019 Zoraida costs 15 now. They fixed Youko Hamasaki's pseudo-obey so that she gets to choose and control the action. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fetid Strumpet Posted June 27, 2019 Report Share Posted June 27, 2019 Zoraida cost 15 at the last beta update. That isn’t a change. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jinn Posted June 27, 2019 Report Share Posted June 27, 2019 23 minutes ago, Fetid Strumpet said: Zoraida cost 15 at the last beta update. That isn’t a change. Sorry, I missed that. I had thought she was almost too good for a 16 cost as a secondary master which is why her being 15SS was a surprise to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solkan Posted June 27, 2019 Report Share Posted June 27, 2019 I'm trying to get to work on finding changes in the main rulebook. So far what I've noticed: The "After Step 5" step for Actions now has a name and number, it's the "After Resolving" step. The steps in Detailed Timing (page 35) match the Actions and Duels subdivisions. "Actions Generated by Effects" got moved to the "Timing" page. "This Model" got moved to page 9. Example on page 11 is now Basse vs. Pandora. There were some reorganization of the Moving rules on page 14, and a sentence was added: "At no point can a model end any move with its base overlapping the base of another model, even if the model is able to move through the other model." The "Incorporeal Climbing during a Walk" paragraph was removed from page 14. The columns on page 15 swapped. The "Bonus Actions" callout moved back a page to page 22. The General Actions got reordered on page 22 Assist got changed to "Target other friendly model within 2" and LoS ..." The "Pay any Costs" step on page 23 has some changes in wording to deal with costs that reference the action's target. Targeting added a paragraph explaining how "choose an object" works. Two paragraphs of Replace switched places on page 32, but the Replace rules don't appear to have changed. Minor edit of the Summon rules (deleted the sentence "Summoned models are models added into a Crew from a game effect. ") Various additions to the Buried rules: Second paragraph rewritten to "Buried models cannot be the target of any Actions or Abilities that do not specifically target Buried models. These Actions ignore all game effects relating to the position of the Buried model, such as range, LoS, [Aura] ,[pulse], moving the Buried model, etc." 🎉 The sentence "While Buried models still Activate, they cannot take Actions." moved to the first paragraph. Climbable terrain trait changed so that the sides are treated as impassible. Walkway example "fixed" to be Blocking and Climbable. That's all I can pick out scanning for changes in the text shape. 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da Git Posted June 27, 2019 Report Share Posted June 27, 2019 Minako Rei is now Versatile 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trikk Posted June 27, 2019 Report Share Posted June 27, 2019 Judge's Risk of Reason is 1-3 cards and not 1-5. Family Values changed and Papa Loco lost it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frumpypigskin Posted June 27, 2019 Report Share Posted June 27, 2019 21 minutes ago, Da Git said: Minako Rei is now Versatile So excited by this... Disproportionately so Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solkan Posted June 27, 2019 Report Share Posted June 27, 2019 Black Blood Shaman now Minion(2). The rest of the Nephilim Rare numbers appear unchanged. It looks like some of the name adjustments for named individuals went back to their M2E names. For instance, Taelor dropped her last name and Von Schill dropped his first name again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MajorUndead Posted June 27, 2019 Report Share Posted June 27, 2019 It looks like the action Complete the Ritual on the Blood Sacrifice upgrade (the one to unbury Killjoy) is no longer a bonus action. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solkan Posted June 27, 2019 Report Share Posted June 27, 2019 Change to The Lone Swordsman's Last Breath action: Both references to "this model's Activation" changed to "this Activation". No more out-of-activation Obey power up for that action. (Or a lot more complicated, requiring Obeying intermediaries.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ming Posted June 27, 2019 Report Share Posted June 27, 2019 3 hours ago, Fetid Strumpet said: They fixed the exploit on Yan Lo’s rebuild corpus. Renamed and slightly reworked Philip’s melee attack. What's exactly changed in Yan Lo? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da Git Posted June 27, 2019 Report Share Posted June 27, 2019 Scion of the Void may only attack using Obliteration minion as nodes while buried. Always thought this was the intention, but the old wording meant she could attack while unburied from across the board! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgan Vening Posted June 27, 2019 Report Share Posted June 27, 2019 10 minutes ago, Ming said: What's exactly changed in Yan Lo? Beta - "Replace the target with the model named in the title of the the chosen Upgrade, then the new model Heals 5. Draw two cards." Official "Replace the target with the model named in the title of the the chosen Upgrade, then the new model Heals 5 and draws two cards." The Beta version allowed the drawing of two cards regardless of if the previous effects (replace etc) happened. Now, you're required to do the previous effect or you don't get the card draw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solkan Posted June 27, 2019 Report Share Posted June 27, 2019 3 minutes ago, Morgan Vening said: Beta - "Replace the target with the model named in the title of the the chosen Upgrade, then the new model Heals 5. Draw two cards." Official "Replace the target with the model named in the title of the the chosen Upgrade, then the new model Heals 5 and draw two cards." The Beta version allowed the drawing of two cards regardless of if the previous effects (replace etc) happened. Now, you're required to do the previous effect or you don't get the card draw. I'm not sure that the rules support there being a meaningful difference between those two sentences. How are you getting attached reliquary upgrades on models with the original still being in play, anyway? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgan Vening Posted June 27, 2019 Report Share Posted June 27, 2019 1 minute ago, solkan said: I'm not sure that the rules support there being a meaningful difference between those two sentences. Sorry, I missed an "s". It's "draws two cards", not "draw two cards". I blame them being images, and me having to type (and suck at typing). As it's the new model that does the drawing, you can't do it if the model isn't replaced. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thatlatinspeakingguy Posted June 27, 2019 Report Share Posted June 27, 2019 6 minutes ago, solkan said: How are you getting attached reliquary upgrades on models with the original still being in play, anyway? Chiaki has a trigger on her Spirit Flute action which says "Choose a model within range. The chosen model may Attach the Reliquary (X) Upgrade, where X is the name of any other model within range." 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solkan Posted June 27, 2019 Report Share Posted June 27, 2019 Just now, Morgan Vening said: Sorry, I missed an "s". It's "draws two cards", not "draw two cards". I blame them being images, and me having to type (and suck at typing). As it's the new model that does the drawing, you can't do it if the model isn't replaced. Oh, okay. I'll buy that. 2 minutes ago, thatlatinspeakingguy said: Chiaki has a trigger on her Spirit Flute action which says "Choose a model within range. The chosen model may Attach the Reliquary (X) Upgrade, where X is the name of any other model within range." Ah, right. I forgot about that one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
katadder Posted June 27, 2019 Report Share Posted June 27, 2019 misaki and inhuman reflexes lost diving charge and had it replaced with mobile warrior (can still charge in ocmbat but dont ignore terrain and models) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maniacal_cackle Posted June 27, 2019 Report Share Posted June 27, 2019 4 hours ago, Fetid Strumpet said: They fixed the exploit on Yan Lo’s rebuild corpus. Renamed and slightly reworked Philip’s melee attack. What's the change to Philip? On my phone and hard to check! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgan Vening Posted June 27, 2019 Report Share Posted June 27, 2019 14 minutes ago, Maniacal_cackle said: What's the change to Philip? On my phone and hard to check! Changed from "Tear Apart" to "Pram Ram". Gets a on attacks from Charge Action. Loses Zombify (summon Mindless on kill) trigger. All other Triggers are the same. 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maniacal_cackle Posted June 27, 2019 Report Share Posted June 27, 2019 4 minutes ago, Morgan Vening said: Changed from "Tear Apart" to "Pram Ram". Gets a on attacks from Charge Action. Loses Zombify (summon Mindless on kill) trigger. All other Triggers are the same. Pram ram??? This is the best change ever!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SerZaka Posted June 27, 2019 Report Share Posted June 27, 2019 51 minutes ago, katadder said: misaki and inhuman reflexes lost diving charge and had it replaced with mobile warrior (can still charge in ocmbat but dont ignore terrain and models) Misaki never had Diving Charge she forgot how to jump over people a while ago 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trikk Posted June 27, 2019 Report Share Posted June 27, 2019 33 minutes ago, SerZaka said: Misaki never had Diving Charge she forgot how to jump over people a while ago It's probably the guilt of killing her father weights her down. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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