HomelessOne Posted August 20, 2020 Report Share Posted August 20, 2020 Seemed only fair. We talked about him plenty in the Gencon thread, but compiled here we can discuss the Keyword going forward as new models, synergies, and faction upgrades are revealed. MASTER Lord Justin Cooper Lord Cooper, Huntmaster HENCHMAN Model 9 ENFORCERS Artemis Malisaurus Rex Ullr MINIONS Crypsis Corps x2 Empyrean Eagle x2 Harpooner x2 Runaway x3 Vatagi Huntsman x3 VIDEOS: Keyword Review by Whut COLLECTING: Core Box: Lord Cooper, 3 Runaways, Model 9, Artemis, and Ullr "On The Hunt" Box: 2 Crypsis Corps and 3 Vatagi Huntsmen "Malisaurus Rex" Box: Malisaurus Rex "Turning Tides" Box: 2 Harpooners ???: Cooper (Beastmaster) and 3 Empyrean Eagles 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MajorUndead Posted September 1, 2020 Report Share Posted September 1, 2020 I've just noticed that Model 9 has the execute trigger on on his melee attack. Combined with the Malisaurus Rex's bonus action that gives + to friendly attack actions targetting ennemies within range, the stat 6 on Model 9's melee action, and the predatory instinct ability to get a on attack for a on damage, this can be a decent combo to force a few stone/card discard to avoid the trigger's immediate death. PS : the Ullr link above does not contain the back of this card, you can see it there : His hold down trigger on is pretty nice too btw (especially since Lord Cooper shooting action is once per activation, not per turn) 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HomelessOne Posted September 1, 2020 Author Report Share Posted September 1, 2020 Whoops! My bad. I've replaced the Ullr hyperlink with a new composite image depicting both sides of the card. Thanks for catching that oversight. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HomelessOne Posted September 16, 2020 Author Report Share Posted September 16, 2020 From the upcoming releases page: https://i.imgur.com/C46QC3H.png https://i.imgur.com/HNBddnv.png Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cranky Old Man Posted September 17, 2020 Report Share Posted September 17, 2020 Can’t wait. The faction book is coming out too so it will be great to see the other masters! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MajorUndead Posted September 17, 2020 Report Share Posted September 17, 2020 Yeah I just saw the upcoming page too! I'm eager to play Lord Cooper and his crew The faction book will be nice too to see all the other masters and getting some lore on them all! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesy Blue Posted September 17, 2020 Report Share Posted September 17, 2020 They'll need lore, cause I doubt we'll know who they are by name and picture. We bearly know anything about English Ivan and he's got a whole story about him already. The other books have 3-4 stories each, and all the masters make an "appearance". This is going to be a whole other ball of wax as we have to get the narrative feel of about 6 new people at once (maybe 5.5 with what we know about English Ivan, maybe 7-8 because we might get more Basse and/or McCabe info.... it's gonna be a mess). I'm wicked excited either way, though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maogrim Posted November 7, 2020 Report Share Posted November 7, 2020 On 9/17/2020 at 2:40 PM, Jesy Blue said: They'll need lore, cause I doubt we'll know who they are by name and picture. We bearly know anything about English Ivan and he's got a whole story about him already. The other books have 3-4 stories each, and all the masters make an "appearance". This is going to be a whole other ball of wax as we have to get the narrative feel of about 6 new people at once (maybe 5.5 with what we know about English Ivan, maybe 7-8 because we might get more Basse and/or McCabe info.... it's gonna be a mess). I'm wicked excited either way, though. Oh, I wouldn't bet on all the masters making an appearance. Jakob Lynch is only mentioned in a few sentences in the Ten Thunders book stories, and he's not even a dual master. So since McCabe plays protagonist in one of the TT stories I could imagine him being far less prominent in the Society book. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plaag Posted November 7, 2020 Report Share Posted November 7, 2020 another broken master+keyword 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maogrim Posted November 7, 2020 Report Share Posted November 7, 2020 54 minutes ago, Plaag said: another broken master+keyword I unterstand that you are an experienced and suscessful tournament player, but whenever I read your comments they are either about models being too weak (e.g. Foundry) or too broken (all the Explorers). Are there models that you really enjoy playing and consider balanced for casual and tournament play? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plaag Posted November 7, 2020 Report Share Posted November 7, 2020 1 hour ago, Maogrim said: I unterstand that you are an experienced and suscessful tournament player, but whenever I read your comments they are either about models being too weak (e.g. Foundry) or too broken (all the Explorers). Are there models that you really enjoy playing and consider balanced for casual and tournament play? yes, but i play only for victory, so need to take best models; and just look at the master-3/5/7 ignoring demise and htk as i remember with 2 posirives on dmg, also u can shoot double; by your side on ullr-ability that most of players are talking abt in molly and von schtook crew, and talking abt nerf; hold down trigger, again 3/5/7 dmg track; malifausaurus with so many wounds, his aura, htw, terrifying; model with 2 armour, so many move possibilities and a lot of atacks; just find analog in other factions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da Git Posted November 7, 2020 Report Share Posted November 7, 2020 Putting the WAAC into malifaux... must be a pure joy (for you and hopefully your meta, I get there are all types out there. I'd just hate to play that way...). Just be aware that not everyone subscribes to that way of thinking/playing 1 hour ago, Plaag said: yes, but i play only for victory, so need to take best models; Looks like Wyrd'll be making a pretty penny off Explorers then... maybe that was their plan all along Mwahahahahahahaha! 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HomelessOne Posted November 7, 2020 Author Report Share Posted November 7, 2020 8 hours ago, Maogrim said: Oh, I wouldn't bet on all the masters making an appearance. Jakob Lynch is only mentioned in a few sentences in the Ten Thunders book stories, and he's not even a dual master. So since McCabe plays protagonist in one of the TT stories I could imagine him being far less prominent in the Society book. For what it's worth, Lynch was over in the Neverborn book co-starring in a story explaining why he's not dual-faction anymore. I agree not to set expectations too high, but with "only" six Masters for the book to try and cram into stories I think we'll get a good sample of the major personalities. Euripides was only there for a few pages in Neverborn but you still got a good taste of his characterization. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HomelessOne Posted December 2, 2020 Author Report Share Posted December 2, 2020 Original post updated thanks to the app update. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HomelessOne Posted December 6, 2020 Author Report Share Posted December 6, 2020 I will admit to being pleasantly surprised. The Apex keyword has a cool aesthetic but I wasn't expecting too much lorewise. But Wyrd really gave them some good flavor, depth, or whatever you'd like to call it. Cooper being a jerk who loves his dogs is expected, but things like Model 9's personality or the Crypsis Corps actually being just two people (nameless named characters!) are pretty cool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belorey Posted December 6, 2020 Report Share Posted December 6, 2020 6 minutes ago, HomelessOne said: I will admit to being pleasantly surprised. The Apex keyword has a cool aesthetic but I wasn't expecting too much lorewise. But Wyrd really gave them some good flavor, depth, or whatever you'd like to call it. Cooper being a jerk who loves his dogs is expected, but things like Model 9's personality or the Crypsis Corps actually being just two people (nameless named characters!) are pretty cool. Yeah, even the "logic" of getting a Malisaurus Rex as pet is funny. And i like the history behind Model 9. It's original and has lot of sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HomelessOne Posted December 10, 2020 Author Report Share Posted December 10, 2020 So - Harpooners. Have they changed much for people, theoretical or otherwise? Reeling in Pit Trap markers seems funny, if gimmicky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MajorUndead Posted December 10, 2020 Report Share Posted December 10, 2020 17 minutes ago, HomelessOne said: So - Harpooners. Have they changed much for people, theoretical or otherwise? Reeling in Pit Trap markers seems funny, if gimmicky. Not only that, you can set up a crypsis corps with patient strike and have the harpooners move an ennemy to trigger a shot from the crypsis Or pull an ennemy into model 9 or malisaurus rex range Or stop an ennemy from engaging Cooper (especially if Cooper got staggered and you can't move him with your other models) I'm not sure if the harpooners will be super great hires, but I can see some play with them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whut Posted December 12, 2020 Report Share Posted December 12, 2020 On 12/10/2020 at 4:44 PM, HomelessOne said: So - Harpooners. Have they changed much for people, theoretical or otherwise? Reeling in Pit Trap markers seems funny, if gimmicky. I don't value them as hires. They're not fast enough to make scheme plays and Crypsis do much better damage, unique utility, and have stealth. Although they can push enemy models, we already have Malisaurus bonus action and Artemis for that. However, I can definitely see them as replacements for Hopeful Prospects (which Cooper should ALWAYS be taking) if you either need the pushes to get/deny VP later in the game, or if you're already within stealth range of the enemy and value the Df6 to try to stay alive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HomelessOne Posted December 12, 2020 Author Report Share Posted December 12, 2020 What are you sacrificing to fit in the Hopeful Prospect(s)? Cooper definitely seems like a Master that runs out of stones before cool tech, haha. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whut Posted December 12, 2020 Report Share Posted December 12, 2020 41 minutes ago, HomelessOne said: What are you sacrificing to fit in the Hopeful Prospect(s)? Cooper definitely seems like a Master that runs out of stones before cool tech, haha. Cooper's Core Crew IMO is Cooper Runaways x3 Malisaurus Rex Artemis Ullr Hopeful Prospect Crypsis Corps This gives you 17 stones to work with 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maniacal_cackle Posted December 12, 2020 Report Share Posted December 12, 2020 What are the hopeful prospects for? Card draw? EDIT: although with focus they can deal 5 damage at range against non-ressers. I always forget that severe damage matters xD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whut Posted December 12, 2020 Report Share Posted December 12, 2020 8 minutes ago, Maniacal_cackle said: What are the hopeful prospects for? Card draw? EDIT: although with focus they can deal 5 damage at range against non-ressers. I always forget that severe damage matters xD Most importantly they give Cooper Focused+1 when he kills a model so he can reload his rifle without taking the Concentrate action. They also remove conditions, can do a little healing, give a little card draw, have H2K, and sit there Concentrating until they fire off a 5 damage shot and turn into a Harpooner or Crypsis 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maniacal_cackle Posted December 12, 2020 Report Share Posted December 12, 2020 1 minute ago, Whut said: Most importantly they give Cooper Focused+1 when he kills a model so he can reload his rifle without taking the Concentrate action. They also remove conditions, give a little card draw, have H2K, and sit there Concentrating until they fire off a 5 damage shot and turn into a Harpooner or Crypsis Seems good! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
touchdown Posted December 12, 2020 Report Share Posted December 12, 2020 and you can't score points off of them in public enemies or put intel on them 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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