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Good post about Levi. I will add some easy to get constructs / undead models and how/when use them: Undead: Rotten Belle: Outcast have many nice ranged damage dealers (Lazarus, Rusty, Trapper etc.) You can use Belles to lure enemy in open and kill him (Levi also is ranged). Also in some stats / schemes you can lure enemy models from stash markers, corners, tables quarters etc. Dead Doxy: So needed push in outcast. Now you don't need to waste some models AP for walk, you can push them. It a little tricky because you also need to push Doxy Madam Sybelle: Natural combo with Belle and Doxy, can drag them around field, also some nice tricks, good Hench for that price. Crooligan/ Necropunk: Two good scheme runners. Both work different. Before Winged Plague that was probably best option for scheme runners in outcasts ..... Necropunk is also construct Yin: Nice support / Tank piece. Maybe dmg is not great, but can setup awesome situation (let's give enemy summoner to CA and WP duels, or give it to enemy model, so Levi, Belles or Bishop targeting WP can lure him / kill him). Izamu / Rogue Necromancy: Big bad 10 ss killers, both different but deadly. Izamu is hard to kill if you won't ignore armor, Rogue has to attack and dmg flip when has at least half wounds) Rogue is also construct. Construct: Mech Rider: Summoning + Scheme markers + tanky. You don't need to know more Joss / Howard: Two tanky killers with nice tricks (Joss ignores many things, Howard has nimble, Flurry and sweet trigger on ) Toolkit: 3 ss model who will make Howard a real pain in enemy ass (or help other models as well, let's say Lazaraus with to dmg flip). Soulstone miner: Nice scheme runner or snipers killer. Also can lead to some nice combos with outcast (easy heal from Librarian, Emissary upgrade so many free ss). Hunter: Good killer / supporter for 7ss. Can push enemy models to you. Watcher: Scheme runner, can make nice combo with ranged models, this little fella removes cover, so no more for attacks. Teddy: Another deadly killer. Low DF but regenerate and Impossible to wound are to counter that. Terracota warrior: Can switch upgrades on Levi (pariah for oathkeeper etc.), can take damage instead other model, and reduce it (after FAQ not works with Rusty Reactivate) I know that there are many other models, but those listed here are more or less easy to get (maybe Madam Sybelle/ Joss / Howard are not so easy). I know that all riders have undead or construct, and there is ton of other models to take. I simply mentioned only most popular ones on internet / local meta. If anyone is eager to describe next models. Please do it. I will edit my entry and give all references to your work or it will stay in your post. Many models advices are from @daniello_s from other topics. So it's not my pure work. Thanks @Cedar for next model pointed.

It's nice to see that this topic developed. But originally it was to speak about tricks and play style of new Levi. It’s here to help new Levi players (or old ones). Not to see how group of old Levi players argues …… For example, after some reading I saw that Von Schill can charge twice a turn (with fast from Oathkeeper or Student totem), before that I never used that trick. So let's guys focus more on original idea for this topic. You can discuss all day long in private messages.

I know I am off-topic, but I didn't know about that. Is there any link, article etc. to prove it? But your idea about Pandora is neat Can bring a new way to play her.

Don't know if that's answer you want: - winged plague may push at end of turn to model with / or without blight (sorry don't have card in front of me) - Levi can take some models with push, for example Hunter and push at the end of turn - Bandits can push (River when scheme marker is placed, 5ss minion bandit can use push - focus shot - push, Dead can push on ML trigger, parker can push models)

@daniello_s I never saw too much SS use to put me in flip for dmg, but I must have that in mind. (different meta, different things). I want to see what my opponent will do after I do this against his Sonia maybe that will save me from blasts. @Nukemouse Any cheap scheme runner. Necropunk, Crooligan, Winged plague, Let's focus on new tricks or things that you do with Lebi now, not on errata or why, who, what, when Also have anyone used Draugr? With his 0 AP give soulbound upgrade to ranged model and ignore cover (that models gets to attack flips).

On outcasts forum, we can find many topics about pre errata Levi Maybe it's time to make one about after errata Levi. After changes showed by Wyrd, I started to use Levi in different roles, mostly depending on taken upgrades and schemes. Before that he was mostly killing stuff. Now it takes more thinking and deeper plan to use him Things I do with Levi - Summon abominations after killing enemy model This is still nice trick. With I mostly will use "free focus" to get straight flip if model is in cover. Also will try to aim to kill model with 4 WD (many scheme runners). When I go with I will aim to use focus so I will het straight flip. - Charge and do 8 dmg to model that cannot prevent it; I don't like this trick on models with armor or models that can use SS. I use it as finisher. It makes Levi play a little more risky, because If I can charge other model, mostly that model can charge me It's great to finish some enforcers or big minions. With trigger you can easily bypass HTW with discarding cards. - Half WD with correct trigger on ; If it will work it's great, otherwise I feel like i wasted 1ss on upgrade slot. But when it works, awww sweet Attack Howard, use this trigger and see how he lost 6 WD. But mostly that 1ss and upgrade slot can have better use. Probably I will stop using it in future. - Give slow with attack to key enemy models so they cannot charge; I don't care about dmg, I only want to give slow. It's great versus close combat models, but not allowing sniper to take focus, or have enemy model to do only 1 attack is also great. - Do crazy teleport trick and place key scheme marker or end in enemy deployment zone etc. In tournament you mostly will know about last round, or when match should end. In that situation you can leave Levi in weird place like middle of board or enemy deployment zone. Mostly people don't think that your master can teleport to abominations, wife, kill it and then still use 3 AP. I don't think that summoning abominations from scrap is a good idea for Levi. When I expect to see Ramos I may take upgrades only to steal scrap markers. But I don't treat it as main use of Levi (or Rusty). Do you have any other experience with Levi afer errata? do you got any ideas how to use him?

I would love to see at end of event one of models to join outcasts. Mostly some support with 6/7 ss cost. But from what I see it's not possible. Maybe one of them will get undead / lost / tormented? But to make that we need to win! So good luck my fellow outcasts players in next battles

@Kirby and @Freman mostly cowered everything. I don't know what "fun" means for you, but Vs is very straightforward. So if you like this it's ok, but for example, for me it's boring to play him. You opponent will mostly know what you want to do, an mostly will be unable to stop you Off top- I love this trick on VS: burn oathkeeper on VS, charge twice a turn and move something like 18''

not 100% sure, but "I pay better" only works on other models, not model that has it. You need to check wording and if it's aura or pulse. Also you have 12 ss in one model so paralyze, enemy nurse etc. can ruin your day

Wrath is easy to use, charge, then push 3'' when activates again (with JD upgrade), charge again. Wrath can heal, has nice DF and horror duel at top. Greed and Envy are also nice (envy gives focus and blasts), Greed has nice aura + nice CA. All other models also can be great, but, for me, too many depends on your schemes, strategy, tactics, enemy etc.

Correct Sir Tested it, when Reva went first in turn 3 she killed him asap. But learned one thing, she needs LOS to corpses. So 50 mm models or ice / flame pillars, forests etc. can be good against her.

Maybe you can buy / get one of models: - Abuela, remove old Lady from chair? and treat chair as model? - Ramos spiders (large or small) and add some tray / trunk - Komainu, remove head, as before add tray / trunk on top?

If you look for dwarfs in Malifaux, as said before Von Schill can be your choice. Also you may look at Lady J or Perdita for straightforward masters. Also you can try to switch your current models for other boxes (try to make a deal on this forum or facebook group). So you won't release Ikyro

Have anyone used Sloth in JD crews? He is quite easy to kill (for his cost), but his CA (paralyze or 2 dmg + slow) attack looks nice. Also it can be used by JD and Hannah. His 0 AP action is bad for me ( give model slow and heal 3 dmg), but maybe i am missing something in it?

Also great to hear about 2 x charge trick many people don't see it. It took my so,e time to get to it. Great job @Khyodee

From what I need point of view, I would love to see another tormented / Freikorps model. It would be even better if that model had 6-8 ss cost (too much good 10ss options). From showed arts, I really like man look. Like casino player From what I saw in story, child has most potential. Maybe some bribe trick, or give back ss when killed? Two other things are not so great, sword, pistol & armor ...... EDIT: But maybe, it can go better, like magic sword, cursed pistol, gremlin upgrade armor?

- Sue is great against CA crews, also nice min 3 dmg. Can remove corpse markers - McTavish (they guy from swamp) ignores cover, can destroy scheme markers to get free push etc. - Johan if need other source for condition removal - Gracie + Burt two killers that are not expected to be found in Guild crew

Dead Outlaws have "Tormented" keyword. Also have 2 nice attacks. ML can give slow on build-in trigger / SH has build in reposition trigger.

Can you show your Mad Dog proxy? Or maybe you got Parker box? Also, don't you think that 2 x dead bandits is too much? Look forward to your opinion

Good idea, but one thing, what WP has Mei Feng crew? Sonia has for WP7+ models

I am Outcast player. But saw things that helps with Sonnia: 1. Range sniper attacks. Nothing ruins Sonia day like killing her models or targeting her. As @Blacks85 said Shenlong + 2 snipers. 2. Baits and AP waste mostly she will have less number of models* so every AP counts. Try to summon some bait (with Toshiro or ONI master). Kill her models (again) or give them slow, push with Sensei Yu etc. Also my local player who uses Sonia always protects Frank, it's easy to trick him. Attack Frank, player wastes SS / high card. Then go for Sonia Or kill Frank and go for Sonia. I know that things on paper and in real game are different. But Sonnia is not scary, as long you won't group your models in open ares ....... * less models to do stats, like place scheme marker etc.

I never proxy at tournaments. In friendly games I use any model with the same base size But for winged plague, maybe you can search Hordes - Grotesque Baseshss / Raiders?

Balance... hmmm. I would say for me the game is balanced. But it's based on friendly games and playing "for fun". At the same time, I must say that there are some very nasty situations, and mostly people can see them on tournaments. Levi and Rats were some of those cases. When you played against rat Viks it was so lame and boring, you simply couldn't do anything, only waited for Viks to strike. Wyrd did great job cuddling that. But in some situations still some masters may look extra strong / weak. I sam new player with Lucius at tournament. He lost every game .... every. And he wasn't matched against top players I don't think it encourages him. Also summoning is bit odd, in some cases it may ruin your day and game. Probably every one saw at least once, game that started 50 SS vs 50ss where at the end of second turn summoner had something like 70ss worth models. Yes I know that some of those models very wounded badly, or some cards from hand were used to summon them, but still additional 6-10 AP at turn three can do the job. I think that if you want to enjoy the game and treat is as hobby, it will look balanced. In most cases players know difference between friendly game and tournament game. In first case they won't use so much Top Tier masters and will aim for "fun" for both players. But with tournament oriented look, in some cases some factions / masters may look not balanced or not suited for some of stats.

Bishop, StrongArmSuit, Ronin as Mercs DatsueBa, or at least one of her attacks. Poison also ignores armor, and there is a lot of that in Ressers. Also I think that new spirit from wave 4 (don't remember his name).

@solkan Thanks for help, so If I am correct, I can attach Soulbound upgrade? @Kogan Style to be more precise, I want to attach Soulbound upgrade. When said "Ressers upgrades" I was thinking about Soulbound upgrades.