Stats for unreleased models

[le_wahou]

There are already a few messages about the models without official stats in M3E.

I understand that releasing the cards without the model art will be additionnal work for you, but there are tournaments planned soon with M3E.  There is maybe a thread on the henchman forum about this. Some teams will be hardly playable without some key models. I see for example Dashel in guild who does not have his totem.

Could we at least know for each unreleased models if they have been/will be changed since the last beta, and have a list of changes ?

[trikk]

39 minutes ago, le_wahou said:

There are already a few messages about the models without official stats in M3E.

I understand that releasing the cards without the model art will be additionnal work for you, but there are tournaments planned soon with M3E.  There is maybe a thread on the henchman forum about this. Some teams will be hardly playable without some key models. I see for example Dashel in guild who does not have his totem.

Could we at least know for each unreleased models if they have been/will be changed since the last beta, and have a list of changes ?

Just play the beta rules. They'll be release with Faction books.

[4thstringer]

Or we could try to not release the edition in an incomplete manner that disrupts the balancing that a very long beta testing period was held to create?

[Kharnage]

Yeah, I'm just supposed to run around without my Blood Hunter corpse vomiter I've been relying on for almost a year? New Nephilim aren't even on the release schedule. 

[Gnomezilla]

If only you could take the pukeworm instead... 😇

(I’ve been waiting since about a month after I started Malifaux to say that... 😌)

[Yew Arcane]

You're in no different a position than if they didn't give us these resources at all, actually, you are in a much better situation, since the books with stat cards won't be releasing until August for the first group, and September for the second. Just use the beta rules, and any abilities that are shared should just be adjusted to match.

[Kyle]

3 hours ago, le_wahou said:

There are already a few messages about the models without official stats in M3E.

I understand that releasing the cards without the model art will be additionnal work for you, but there are tournaments planned soon with M3E.  There is maybe a thread on the henchman forum about this. Some teams will be hardly playable without some key models. I see for example Dashel in guild who does not have his totem.

Could we at least know for each unreleased models if they have been/will be changed since the last beta, and have a list of changes ?

 

34 minutes ago, 4thstringer said:

Or we could try to not release the edition in an incomplete manner that disrupts the balancing that a very long beta testing period was held to create?

I understand that there are tournaments happening this weekend and over the summer, and we're really excited to hear about them. What players will do to fill these missing gaps in their Crews will be up to the TO's discretion. As players have already noticed, the changes from the end of the Open Beta to release are minuscule. 

Rather than make players wait until our books are released to gain access to every single Stat Card - which is something we have done for the last few years - we decided it would be best to release all of the content that will be made available in June, such as cards in the Faction Packs. Once the Faction Books are released, all Stat Cards will be made available for free. The wait isn't long.

This free content was meant to be a thank you to our community. I'm sorry for any frustration this might cause players who want to play some Crews right out of the gate.

[4thstringer]

Thanks for the quick response on it.  

[Pergli]

So my question on this is: wi the faction packs include cards for unreleased models?

[Maladroit]

1 minute ago, Pergli said:

So my question on this is: wi the faction packs include cards for unreleased models?

Not that I can see - no Dispatcher, Agent 46 etc in the Guild one anyway. The Faction Packs are really to update existing models fro M2E to M3E not for upcoming models that should have the cards with the models.

[Pergli]

Just now, Maladroit said:

Not that I can see - no Dispatcher, Agent 46 etc in the Guild one anyway. The Faction Packs are really to update existing models fro M2E to M3E not for upcoming models that should have the cards with the models.

Well damn. The entire reason why I spent more money on models was to bring von schtook to gen con. The book and his box won't be released until after so it was essentially a waste of time and money to rush through this. At least I have unique models?

[Morgan Vening]

6 minutes ago, Pergli said:

So my question on this is: wi the faction packs include cards for unreleased models?

No. The faction packs list of contents has been available for a month or more, and they weren't in it.

[solkan]

5 hours ago, Pergli said:

Well damn. The entire reason why I spent more money on models was to bring von schtook to gen con. The book and his box won't be released until after so it was essentially a waste of time and money to rush through this. At least I have unique models?

Did I miss the GenCon newsletter?  I thought we still had a week or two for that to come out.

I mean, they've had books at GenCon a few months before release dates in the past.  And there's at least three (I forget how many exactly) people with Von Schtook crews from Adepticon pre-releases.  

[Pergli]

8 hours ago, solkan said:

Did I miss the GenCon newsletter?  I thought we still had a week or two for that to come out.

I mean, they've had books at GenCon a few months before release dates in the past.  And there's at least three (I forget how many exactly) people with Von Schtook crews from Adepticon pre-releases.  

Hmm.. that may be the case. I didn't even think of them having faction books at gencon early.