shahryar Posted January 3, 2016 Report Share Posted January 3, 2016 Sadly i just don't like the yin and killjoy models are there any other good heavy hitter models for molly? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myyrä Posted January 3, 2016 Report Share Posted January 3, 2016 Izamu for spirits, Valedictorian for Horrors. The Emissary hits pretty hard too. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Munindk Posted January 3, 2016 Report Share Posted January 3, 2016 The Rogue Necromancy hits hard and its very thematic for Molly. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yvarre Posted January 3, 2016 Report Share Posted January 3, 2016 Punk Zombies Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MEGAHORSE Posted January 4, 2016 Report Share Posted January 4, 2016 It's unfortunate given that KJ and Yin are two of the best enforcer hires that can be made by Molly. As others have said, Valedictorian, Rogue Necro, and our Emissary are pretty great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Munindk Posted January 4, 2016 Report Share Posted January 4, 2016 Maybe you can "fix" the Killjoy model? I've been considering giving him a tutu skirt and a small paraspol, essentially turning him into a very large Belle. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wake of Godzilla Posted January 4, 2016 Report Share Posted January 4, 2016 2 hours ago, Munindk said: Maybe you can "fix" the Killjoy model? I've been considering giving him a tutu skirt and a small paraspol, essentially turning him into a very large Belle. A bit like a Sybille plus? Sybille is also a good option to the excilent ones listed above, you could also look at the Dead Rider, though I would recommend Izamu if you are doing spirit Molly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Munindk Posted January 4, 2016 Report Share Posted January 4, 2016 A bigger and even uglier Sybelle I hadnt thought about Sybelle as a beater, but with Bleeding Tongue she's quite dangerous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kogan Style Posted January 4, 2016 Report Share Posted January 4, 2016 Sybelle Emissary Shikome Datsu Ba (with suits) Val and Izamu are not the heaviest of hitters, Rogue has the armour of a wet paper bag. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Math Mathonwy Posted January 4, 2016 Report Share Posted January 4, 2016 20 minutes ago, Kogan Style said: Sybelle Emissary Shikome Datsu Ba (with suits) Val and Izamu are not the heaviest of hitters, Rogue has the armour of a wet paper bag. Well, to be fair, Val and Izamu are both arguably at least as hitty as Sybelle and Emissary. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myyrä Posted January 4, 2016 Report Share Posted January 4, 2016 18 minutes ago, Math Mathonwy said: Well, to be fair, Val and Izamu are both arguably at least as hitty as Sybelle and Emissary. Punk Zombie hits harder than Sybelle. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fetid Strumpet Posted January 4, 2016 Report Share Posted January 4, 2016 Sybelle isn't a hitter. She can be decent, but only if you take Bleeding Tongue and manage to repeatedly get the triggers. But as Myra said Punk Zombies will often do more damage, because though their dmg lines are the same, punks zombies get a positive to attack duels and can flurry. Sybelle is great because she can do well at many roles, and her support for Molly is really good, but she isn't really a killy model. If you bring the emissary though and keep Sybelle within range and LoS of the emissary with the conflux of Horror she becomes pretty scary because that lets molly give her an extra attack, and therefore possibly 3 on command death strikes a turn. Not amazing considering, but worth consideration. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonahmaul Posted January 4, 2016 Report Share Posted January 4, 2016 Sybelle is a Molly movement bus! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Math Mathonwy Posted January 4, 2016 Report Share Posted January 4, 2016 11 minutes ago, jonahmaul said: Sybelle is a Molly movement bus! She's a bit like Gracie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freman Posted January 9, 2016 Report Share Posted January 9, 2016 On 1/4/2016 at 3:30 AM, Math Mathonwy said: She's a bit like Gracie A bit more banged up though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daysleeper Posted January 9, 2016 Report Share Posted January 9, 2016 32 minutes ago, Freman said: A bit more banged up though. not too banged up 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicodemic Posted January 10, 2016 Report Share Posted January 10, 2016 In general ive had the best results with sybelle, she can move molly and the triggers on her upgrade make her a good i guess support beater? when i can charge izamu and make him hit his own crew multiple times is pretty good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tawg Posted January 10, 2016 Report Share Posted January 10, 2016 On 1/3/2016 at 7:33 AM, Munindk said: The Rogue Necromancy hits hard and its very thematic for Molly. What's that about, anyhow? I mean, I know mechanically Molly can interact with Horrors quite well, but what is the reason? Is she a creepy little girl making large misshapen monsters, like gross stuffed animals (Or taxidermy more like)? Just a little curious. What about Hayreddin anyhow? His ranged attack essentially has a 4/6/8 damage track, that seems decently good all things considered. He doesn't exactly combo with Molly in a specific way, but he can grant twist just by standing around things, which may help ramp up damage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Munindk Posted January 10, 2016 Report Share Posted January 10, 2016 McMourning created the Rogue Necromancy, but in the resser fluff in the M2e rulebook Molly "borrowed" it when she rescued Seamus from sanitorium. It fits her theme of picking up strays and misfits where ever she goes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Math Mathonwy Posted January 12, 2016 Report Share Posted January 12, 2016 On 4.1.2016 at 3:02 PM, Myyrä said: Punk Zombie hits harder than Sybelle. I only now realized that this thread was about heavy hitters. Sybelle is certainly heavier than a Punk Zombie! Not as heavy as Killjoy, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sholto Posted January 19, 2016 Report Share Posted January 19, 2016 Dead Rider is a solid hitter (and an amazing control piece). As an Undead you can make it a Horror if the Emissary is in the crew. I tend to have the Grave Spirit chaperone it Turns 1 & 2 to keep it alive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjoewoo Posted January 19, 2016 Report Share Posted January 19, 2016 Dead Rider is a solid hitter and control piece when he's got 2+ crows on his trigger. At that point his 0 to get an extra hit is much easier to get, and he auto triggers the pull mechanic (2 pushes). But, Turn 1 and still Turn 2 he is highly vulnerable as his defensive stats leave something to be desired. Sybelle is rarely going to be your main beat stick, imo. She's often too valuable as a bus driver to sacrifice compared to datsue-ba or any enforcer you could hire. Not Too Banged Up gives you extra manipulation which could be the difference between summoning a hanged with +1 Wd or having to summon a Drowned for an immediate corpse marker and scheme marker. If you don't like Yin or KJ, try going Horror molly with a focus on summoning punk zombies. They're not heavy hitters compared to enforcers for individual attacks, but they have a pulse that can cost a number of high cards from the opponent's hand and deck to avoid the Df duel. Molly can also effectively give them 2 activations if she gives them an AP with her (0) and reactivate, though the reactivate is costly and the combo requires Tear of the Gorgon, which may or may not be a good investment overall. You need 13s for Hanged and Rogue Necro if you run Spare Parts with her, though if you're going horror 13s are slightly less required since there are no 9 cost horrors. Spirit Molly gets Shikome, as mentioned, and they're pretty good for beating while drawing fire. If someone, like an onryo, can hand out adversary, then you've got a lot of damage with an above average 3/4/5 track that ignores armor plus other triggers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
valhallan42nd Posted January 19, 2016 Report Share Posted January 19, 2016 On 1/10/2016 at 11:04 PM, Tawg said: What's that about, anyhow? I mean, I know mechanically Molly can interact with Horrors quite well, but what is the reason? Is she a creepy little girl making large misshapen monsters, like gross stuffed animals (Or taxidermy more like)? Just a little curious. What about Hayreddin anyhow? His ranged attack essentially has a 4/6/8 damage track, that seems decently good all things considered. He doesn't exactly combo with Molly in a specific way, but he can grant twist just by standing around things, which may help ramp up damage. It's more like Molly is a beacon for the lost and broken toys of other Necromancers. They want to be close to her for reasons unknown (probably her relationship with the Gorgon's Tear). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fetid Strumpet Posted January 19, 2016 Report Share Posted January 19, 2016 Which is odd, when you think about it because as of the stories in Twisting fates, the actual Gorgan's Tear is inside Seamus' head. Unless there was a fluff story I missed that had it removed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
valhallan42nd Posted January 19, 2016 Report Share Posted January 19, 2016 12 minutes ago, Fetid Strumpet said: Which is odd, when you think about it because as of the stories in Twisting fates, the actual Gorgan's Tear is inside Seamus' head. Unless there was a fluff story I missed that had it removed. It is, IIRC, but she was revived by the use of the Tear, thus establishing her connection to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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