Maniacal_cackle Posted December 23, 2020 Report Share Posted December 23, 2020 So next month's Vassal series is Iron Scorpius format (cannot use the same master more than once). The player pack can be found here. What are people thinking of declaring for the tournament? Round one looks good for Reva, Seamus, kind of Molly, and I assume Von Schtook Round two looks good for Kirai, Reva, Molly, Von Schtook, maybe Yan Lo, Seamus? Round 3 is good for Reva, Molly, VS, and probably a few others Round for looks good for Reva, Seamus, Von Schtook... What'd I miss? Who else is good for the rounds? I'll certainly be declaring Molly and Reva as the crews I have the most expertise with and who match up with the pools well, but will need three crews I don't know very well to cover the rest. What's everyone else feeling confident about with these pools? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
touchdown Posted December 24, 2020 Report Share Posted December 24, 2020 Daw seems good into round 3, that's gonna be a blood bath in the center. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maniacal_cackle Posted December 24, 2020 Author Report Share Posted December 24, 2020 40 minutes ago, touchdown said: Daw seems good into round 3, that's gonna be a blood bath in the center. True! I didn't really register, but the centre is the only position that matters for scoring points! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pergli Posted December 26, 2020 Report Share Posted December 26, 2020 My problems with daw into rd 3: 1. Alot of concealing so youre going to waste so focusing to get around that. Melee is great but you want those upgrades. You could bring a grave digger to spread out focus t1 which may be helpful enough but I don't like taking non tormented models with him. 2. It's corner. Daws crew is inherently slow, even with the various pushes it can be difficult to get into position. Montessor is going to have a hard time getting anywhere. The map just feels AP inefficient where you need to maximize every AP as much as possible with daw but I could likely be wrong. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maniacal_cackle Posted December 26, 2020 Author Report Share Posted December 26, 2020 3 hours ago, Pergli said: My problems with daw into rd 3: 1. Alot of concealing so youre going to waste so focusing to get around that. Melee is great but you want those upgrades. You could bring a grave digger to spread out focus t1 which may be helpful enough but I don't like taking non tormented models with him. 2. It's corner. Daws crew is inherently slow, even with the various pushes it can be difficult to get into position. Montessor is going to have a hard time getting anywhere. The map just feels AP inefficient where you need to maximize every AP as much as possible with daw but I could likely be wrong. That's a good point, I keep forgetting round 3 is corner when planning! Maybe I'll take Molly into it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
touchdown Posted December 26, 2020 Report Share Posted December 26, 2020 3 hours ago, Maniacal_cackle said: That's a good point, I keep forgetting round 3 is corner when planning! Maybe I'll take Molly into it. That's your answer for everything! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maniacal_cackle Posted December 26, 2020 Author Report Share Posted December 26, 2020 35 minutes ago, touchdown said: That's your answer for everything! Hahaha, it is, but this time I'm not allowed to take Molly into more than one round 😜 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harlekin Posted December 27, 2020 Report Share Posted December 27, 2020 3 hours ago, touchdown said: That's your answer for everything! It is for a lot of Resser players. She might not be the bestestest Master but she definitely is a good one and always fun to play. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maniacal_cackle Posted December 27, 2020 Author Report Share Posted December 27, 2020 Well, I just registered: Molly Seamus Reva Kirai McMourning The first three were autopicks since I know how to play them. Kirai and McMourning I've at least toyed with the idea of playing the crews a lot, so I kind of know the crews. And I've played both as second masters, so fingers crossed! Feel like I can take all the pools with this team, and hoping I can take most opponents >.> 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pergli Posted December 27, 2020 Report Share Posted December 27, 2020 I'd probably swap one of those last two for Von Schtook :), he is just soooooo good. Especially into that final map, it'll be a tough game for your opponent. I'm going: Von Schtook Reva Daw Molly My 5th doesn't really matter but I slid Yan Lo in there because it could make someone paranoid for the recover evidence pool. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maniacal_cackle Posted December 27, 2020 Author Report Share Posted December 27, 2020 1 minute ago, Pergli said: I'd probably swap one of those last two for Von Schtook :), he is just soooooo good. Especially into that final map, it'll be a tough game for your opponent. I'm going: Von Schtook Reva Daw Molly My 5th doesn't really matter but I slid Yan Lo in there because it could make someone paranoid for the recover evidence pool. Hahah, that's a good point, there's a lot of value just in making people paranoid about what you're up to! Yeah, Von Schtook is crazy good, so really makes sense to use. I've been avoiding picking up another summoner IRL since they're probably not a good fit with my local meta, so I'm not very good with VS yet. McMourning I picked just because I'd like to get a bit more experience to contribute more to those conversations xD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harlekin Posted December 27, 2020 Report Share Posted December 27, 2020 I won't consider the good Prof a summoner. His summons are occasionally at best and if you get one of the summons through the game is very likely already decided, anyways. Compared to the crews you prioritized over him he is the most 'predictable', though, so I don't see much loss in not choosing him. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pergli Posted December 27, 2020 Report Share Posted December 27, 2020 Agree on the non summoner thing. Honestly, I think you should be getting one summon off a game regularly but if its two then the game is most likely decided because its such a big point swing his way. Unsure what you mean about him being the most predictable so you don't lose anything by not choosing him? Unless you mean your opponent's prediction is: "Well, Schtook is going to do Schtook things and I might as well concede before we begin" then maybe but then you're giving up a free win :). 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maniacal_cackle Posted December 27, 2020 Author Report Share Posted December 27, 2020 Well, I guess I should say "bonkers powerful" instead of a summoner, then 😜 I think I have about an 80-90% winrate in casual play, so I've been focusing on crews that aren't quite top tier. Of course, when I purchased Reva she was the worst crew in the faction, and then by the time she shipped to New Zealand she was one of the best... 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pergli Posted December 27, 2020 Report Share Posted December 27, 2020 Yeah, I played Reva at the beginning of 3e because I wanted a more "fun" master that I could play into weaker players because Schtook was just not fun for anyone to play into. Took a long time but I got decent with her and then they decided to buff her and now she's #2 for me but that is heavily frowned upon as people seem to think Kirai deserves that spot. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maniacal_cackle Posted December 28, 2020 Author Report Share Posted December 28, 2020 Well, I swapped in Von Schtook. I realised I didn't want to win 3 rounds and then not have any competitive masters left, so I should at least take the Series a bit seriously xD Now I can lose on my own merits rather than the masters I selected On 12/28/2020 at 10:27 AM, Pergli said: Yeah, I played Reva at the beginning of 3e because I wanted a more "fun" master that I could play into weaker players because Schtook was just not fun for anyone to play into. Took a long time but I got decent with her and then they decided to buff her and now she's #2 for me but that is heavily frowned upon as people seem to think Kirai deserves that spot. I think they're close enough that we can't really define best masters even for a particular pool, much less overall. But I'd agree Reva is definitely at the top somewhere. Alongside Kirai, Yan Lo, Von Schtook, and maybe a few others xD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maniacal_cackle Posted January 1, 2021 Author Report Share Posted January 1, 2021 My first round (Standard Leylines) is against Neverborn (Titania, Dreamer, Zoraida, Pandora, Nekima). So guess I'm not using Belles after all xD Planted roots in Neverborn makes Lure pretty useless. EDIT: Lol.... I almost took Dead Rider into Zoraida before I remembered her obey can use my Rider's tokens... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maniacal_cackle Posted January 3, 2021 Author Report Share Posted January 3, 2021 Well, lesson learned. If you see black joker with Seamus' intuition, then don't leave him in danger for an activation figuring copycat can save him xD Lost Seamus round 1 to Zoraida's voodoo curse. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trikk Posted January 3, 2021 Report Share Posted January 3, 2021 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plaag Posted January 3, 2021 Report Share Posted January 3, 2021 On 1/2/2021 at 1:49 AM, Maniacal_cackle said: My first round (Standard Leylines) is against Neverborn (Titania, Dreamer, Zoraida, Pandora, Nekima). So guess I'm not using Belles after all xD Planted roots in Neverborn makes Lure pretty useless. EDIT: Lol.... I almost took Dead Rider into Zoraida before I remembered her obey can use my Rider's tokens... u still can spend them when she obeys u 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adran Posted January 3, 2021 Report Share Posted January 3, 2021 4 minutes ago, Plaag said: u still can spend them when she obeys u But you can't save them for later, which is normally the problem... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maniacal_cackle Posted January 3, 2021 Author Report Share Posted January 3, 2021 13 minutes ago, Plaag said: u still can spend them when she obeys u Lol, I forgot about that! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maniacal_cackle Posted January 3, 2021 Author Report Share Posted January 3, 2021 Doesn't matter, though, what I really should have taken was Manos but I noobed that too xD I figured Carrion Emissary + Seamus would be enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sagrit Posted January 4, 2021 Report Share Posted January 4, 2021 10 hours ago, Plaag said: u still can spend them when she obeys u But how? Rider can spend tokens only when declaring triggers, Obey works against Wp and Rider have only Df trigger. What am i missing? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maniacal_cackle Posted January 4, 2021 Author Report Share Posted January 4, 2021 14 minutes ago, Sagrit said: But how? Rider can spend tokens only whendeclaring triggers, Obey works against Wp and Rider have only Df trigger. What am i missing? That's a fair point! I'm not 100% sure how that would play out (does 'when declaring' refer to the step for declaring triggers, or when you're actually declaring one?) But I would lean towards you probably can't. Round two should be fun! Looking forward to seeing what that pairing is next week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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