Treehouse Posted December 3, 2016 Report Share Posted December 3, 2016 I'm thinking about getting some Rougarous but don't have the Titania (yet). So I've ben thinking about the other masters I've got. Dreamer: Well, Daydreams are aura 4" -1 WP, the Rougarous Challenge of the Alpha is pulse 4" resist WP, so that could be a thing. Maybe in Turfwar also, especially if you have a Widow Weaver. Though then you would want to place the Rougarou outside the Turf War area if possible to lure models outside. It might also be worthwhile to summon in Lelu next to the Rougarou, then activating the wolf via Otherworldly, trying to lure people in for double pounce by wolf and Lelu. (I think I'll try that. Possibly move some Daydreams close first.) Pandora: The wolf's Challenge in combination with Misery aura of Pandora and possibly Sorrows could be really mean. You could run Iggy in there first and Throw A Fit, for -2 WIP. Then have the Rougarou close to Pandora and hopefully get many models close (especially if Dora has Fears). Any combis you have used/theoryfauxed of? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I'm a Teapot! Posted December 4, 2016 Report Share Posted December 4, 2016 use whoever can obey to walk enemy models into their pounces... collodi... or zoraidas interact with the vodoo doll to push the hemmed model Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Treehouse Posted December 4, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 4, 2016 Right....so Hungering Darkness comes to mind. Or Lures as well. Or just lure more enemies close before doing Alpha's Challenge for creating more WIP duels. Though I'm not sure if the AP efficiency is there. Come to think of it, with Lilith or Waldgeists you could entangle a target to give it Rooted, then do the challenge, this way a model gets 3 damage more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Treehouse Posted December 4, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 4, 2016 Right, missed that one, the target does the walk action itself...oh well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bakuriel Posted December 5, 2016 Report Share Posted December 5, 2016 Bandersnatch. Long as you don't mind taking a couple points of damage, relent the Crawl Into Shadow, then use the extended range Grab to drag models into base contact with the Rougarou and pounce em. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Treehouse Posted December 6, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 6, 2016 I didn't see that. That's a very cool idea. With Dreamer, you could summon the Bandersnatch and with Otherworldy chain-activate it and let it Crawl. Keeps it safe too. And since the Rougarou is a minion, you have plenty of healing in Dreamer's crew. Also the Daydreams for -1WP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clockwork_Fish Posted December 7, 2016 Report Share Posted December 7, 2016 Barbaros has a number of pushes, and with Cyclone Crash he can potentially push multiple enemies into the Rougarou's large base. If you want mercenaries, Burt Jebsen has Crackerjack Timing to pull in multiple enemies (though the Rougarou will have to charge one first so Burt has a target). Also Lust can push models towards each other, and Bishop, who can push enemies 3" in any direction on melee attacks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
feagaur Posted December 8, 2016 Report Share Posted December 8, 2016 How about the mature nephilim and his trigger to push and charge something else. your best bet is probably the twins and beckoners though for lures rather than pushes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Durza Posted December 9, 2016 Report Share Posted December 9, 2016 Stolen off a mate, but if you have one near the Tooth, Her sword has a built in push up to 4 inches, so you can use her (0) to pull someone over, Rougarou gets a pounce, enemy hits Tooth, Tooth hits back, pushes the enemy a fraction of an inch, Rougarou gets pounce, Tooth still has 2 attacks, possibly 3 from fast or more from obeys or similar effects. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colron Posted June 3, 2017 Report Share Posted June 3, 2017 would they work with the performers from arcanists? I ordered some garu but haven't seen stat card yet. wanted to play them with marcus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joachim Posted June 3, 2017 Report Share Posted June 3, 2017 I used a rougarou with tooth and it worked wonders. I also hired teddy. His built in push on attack is also great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Loki- Posted June 4, 2017 Report Share Posted June 4, 2017 Tooth and Rougarou are the most obvious combination, considering you can get 3 hits in from a single Lure, then another 4 from a charge if careful with push distances. Not much will survive that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catbat07 Posted June 4, 2017 Report Share Posted June 4, 2017 Baby Kade! Lure! Pounce! Min 3/5 damage! just stick him next to a doppleganger and rougarou before watching your opponent cry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Loki- Posted June 4, 2017 Report Share Posted June 4, 2017 35 minutes ago, catbat07 said: Baby Kade! Lure! Pounce! Min 3/5 damage! just stick him next to a doppleganger and rougarou before watching your opponent cry. The Tooth does it better because of the free attack off the Lure, the push built in to her Greatsword attack, and the Lure being a 0 action. Lure, Pounce, opponent free hit, Tooth free hit, push, Pounce. Then there's still Tooths 2 ap. if the enemy survived, she can hit, Push and Pounce two more times. If it died, she can go do other things. I'm a big fan of Baby Kade but it's hard to beat Tooths synergy with a Rougarou for the same cost. Baby Kade gets bigger hits off, but Tooth lets you get more pushes in for more Pounces overall plus a free attack. While she eats a free attack in return, 7W, Armour +1 and Hard to Wound +1, plus the enemies free attack having an additional negative to the damage flip means she's not often doing to be killed by the free attack unless you Lure something like Viktoria of Blood or Misaki and they red joker the damage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pikciwok Posted June 4, 2017 Report Share Posted June 4, 2017 With Lucius you can (and should!) hire Master Queeg. He can force Rougarou to make its (0) action again! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ergonomic Cat Posted June 6, 2017 Report Share Posted June 6, 2017 On 6/4/2017 at 5:47 AM, -Loki- said: The Tooth does it better because of the free attack off the Lure, the push built in to her Greatsword attack, and the Lure being a 0 action. Lure, Pounce, opponent free hit, Tooth free hit, push, Pounce. Then there's still Tooths 2 ap. if the enemy survived, she can hit, Push and Pounce two more times. If it died, she can go do other things. I'm a big fan of Baby Kade but it's hard to beat Tooths synergy with a Rougarou for the same cost. Baby Kade gets bigger hits off, but Tooth lets you get more pushes in for more Pounces overall plus a free attack. While she eats a free attack in return, 7W, Armour +1 and Hard to Wound +1, plus the enemies free attack having an additional negative to the damage flip means she's not often doing to be killed by the free attack unless you Lure something like Viktoria of Blood or Misaki and they red joker the damage. Tooth also gets exponentially better the more pounces you can add. If you have Lelu and Lilitu in range, and Lelu has given Lilitu pounce, a single push by Tooth can provoke 3 attacks. Granted, you're at 29 points for this ball of murder. Alternatively, just give Lilith her Greatsword and get her up in there too. Pounce lists can be amazingly effective at singling out an enemy, bringing it in, and murdering it for minimal AP. Really nice for scheme/strats when you're contesting an area, and know models will be within 12". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catbat07 Posted June 6, 2017 Report Share Posted June 6, 2017 I agree that the tooth is amazing, but why not both? Baby kade, while being squishy, is much more killy than a rougarou, so why not take him instead? I can see it if you're playing the emissary, but even then baby kade is Ml7. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vorschlag Posted June 6, 2017 Report Share Posted June 6, 2017 List of thoughts so far excluding masters: knights 0 pt actions Tooths built in push Kade, Beckoner, Lilutu 's Lure Tuco's 0 pt action Teddy's built in push Nephilims push (Barbaros, Mature, young) Banraku (snatch) Wardens push trigger (Lucius) Mr Graves (show you the door) Mr Queeg (trigger plus setting off models 0) Changelings mimicing some of the above Doppelganger mimicing some of the above wicked dolls (shooting attack) Bandersnatch warpigs (Zoraida) (attack trigger pushes) cherub (trigger built in) Lenny (zoraida - ht1 only) Some hired humans from other factions. There may be more but those are off the top of my head (no book with me) so some of them may not be valid due to wording. Waiting on Rougarou myself so will soon be able to test some of these. Updated after checking books for more options. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
necroon Posted June 6, 2017 Report Share Posted June 6, 2017 Bandersnatch and Performers are definitely worth mentioning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Loki- Posted June 7, 2017 Report Share Posted June 7, 2017 Also Liliths Lure. At Ca8 it's one of the most reliable in the faction, but at the cost of a Master action its usefulness is debatable. edit - I saw you're not including masters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exliontamer Posted June 7, 2017 Report Share Posted June 7, 2017 Though it costs a lot of crows Nurse Heartsbane is also interesting with the Rougarou. Her Convulsions trigger on her Electroshock attack will either provoke two pounces or provoke a pounce and rip a card from their hand. And she can possibly take this action 3 times in an activation (if she hits her 0's trigger), completely outside of any obeys or whatnot. Seems especially good with a controlly master like Zoraida where you will tend to have hand advantage. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catbat07 Posted June 8, 2017 Report Share Posted June 8, 2017 23 hours ago, -Loki- said: Also Liliths Lure. At Ca8 it's one of the most reliable in the faction, but at the cost of a Master action its usefulness is debatable. Am I missing something- I thought Lilitu was Ca7? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Loki- Posted June 8, 2017 Report Share Posted June 8, 2017 48 minutes ago, catbat07 said: Am I missing something- I thought Lilitu was Ca7? Pretty sure 8 is higher than 7? To clarify, I was talking about Liliths Transfixing Gaze, which is Ca 8, though it does require a mask. And again, it's a master action. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludvig Posted June 8, 2017 Report Share Posted June 8, 2017 21 hours ago, exliontamer said: Though it costs a lot of crows Nurse Heartsbane is also interesting with the Rougarou. Her Convulsions trigger on her Electroshock attack will either provoke two pounces or provoke a pounce and rip a card from their hand. And she can possibly take this action 3 times in an activation (if she hits her 0's trigger), completely outside of any obeys or whatnot. Seems especially good with a controlly master like Zoraida where you will tend to have hand advantage. That trigger is depending on you hitting the right suit isn't it? That could really kill its usefulness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exliontamer Posted June 8, 2017 Report Share Posted June 8, 2017 2 hours ago, Ludvig said: Though it costs a lot of crows Literally the first words of my post were a qualification... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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