Iron Heel Posted May 11, 2013 Report Share Posted May 11, 2013 Hello All, First, I am excited for Malifaux 2nd Edition and certainly trust that it will be solid. This is not a post crying DOOM for Wyrd or the tabletop industry en masse. However, I am a bit bummed about one thing. I lurked on the outskirts for a while before entering the breach myself. The crew idea that helped me finally jump into this game was doing a carnival-themed Zoraida/Collodi crew with Killjoy as a beatstick. I opted to learn the game with an easier crew and slowly put the Z/C+K crew together; you can see the results here.. http://www.wyrd-games.net/showthread.php?33334-Iron-Heel-Carnival-of-Doom!&highlight=doom+carnival Now that Collodi will be a master (like ALL the current henchmen), I assume that I cannot take both him and Zoraida without embarking on very big game points-wise, of which I have little interest. I really brought Z into the crew because I wanted to get Killjoy into a Collodi crew which may not even be possible now at all. I guess I will have to wait for the 2E rules. :1_Exhausted_Puppet: Anyone else bumping into 2E oriented dilemmas? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voodoo Specter Posted May 11, 2013 Report Share Posted May 11, 2013 From what I can tell you should be ok keeping Killjoy with Collodi but you won't be able to have Z in there as well unless it is a Brawl. Everything I have read and heard so far points tospecial forces no longer being part of the game and the masters that were henchmen in 1e loosing most if not all of their old hiring restrictions. Then again I may have misinterpreted that so don't hold me to anything Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryu Posted May 11, 2013 Report Share Posted May 11, 2013 Unless Killjoy is dramatically changed he's always been a Merc. So you could, assuming no dramatic changes, just hire him as a Merc with new Collodi - depending on his hiring restrictions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drool_bucket Posted May 11, 2013 Report Share Posted May 11, 2013 I can understand your pain, but it's not like you won't be able to play them, just not all together... now you'll just have to expand your Evil Klown themed crews! While I was never a big Viks/Von Schill combo guy, losing out on that magical combination is actually going to be a nice breath of fresh air. In many ways they were too good together. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Heel Posted May 11, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 11, 2013 I also hear on Aethervox that SFs were done for, but I am operationg under an assumption that Collodi with be a dolls-only guy in 2E despite that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishtank Posted May 11, 2013 Report Share Posted May 11, 2013 (edited) I have to find some more models to turn my Vikscorps crew (an idea I had based on aesthetics rather than power...I can make any combo bad) into two seperate crews. Won't be too bad for the Freicorps, but Viks is tricky. I may give Vanessa a LSPA to play with. Or a Soulstone miner. We'll see come M2E. Edited May 11, 2013 by fishtank Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorbad Posted May 11, 2013 Report Share Posted May 11, 2013 I also hear on Aethervox that SFs were done for, but I am operationg under an assumption that Collodi with be a dolls-only guy in 2E despite that. I wouldn't think so. Granted, he might work best with a lot of dolls but the impression I got from the interviews is that the hiring restrictions are pretty much gone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clement Posted May 11, 2013 Report Share Posted May 11, 2013 Speaking of Von Schill. Everyone who ever fielded him alone as part of another crew because of his amazingness just started collecting a new crew if they ever want to field him again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fetid Strumpet Posted May 11, 2013 Report Share Posted May 11, 2013 Mines painted well, he can certainly just become a display piece. I won't miss him at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i_was_like_you Posted May 11, 2013 Report Share Posted May 11, 2013 I hope that with the Henchmen getting upgraded to Masters, we'll see more support for Brawls, not less. But I would also like support for smaller crews, such as a Witchling Handler and Stalkers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonas Albrecht Posted May 12, 2013 Report Share Posted May 12, 2013 Anyone else bumping into 2E oriented dilemmas? It messed up my decision to quit playing Malifaux. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Heel Posted May 12, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 12, 2013 It messed up my decision to quit playing Malifaux. :1_Happy_Puppet1: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i_was_like_you Posted May 12, 2013 Report Share Posted May 12, 2013 It messed up my decision to quit playing Malifaux. As long as we get more people who feel this way, instead of it messing up potential players' decisions to start playing. It's definitely enough to make people pause until the dust settles, the tarps come down, the curtains go up, and a new show takes the stage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drizzle Posted May 12, 2013 Report Share Posted May 12, 2013 No more combo with Z but it will be fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caen Posted May 12, 2013 Report Share Posted May 12, 2013 (edited) Now that Collodi will be a master (like ALL the current henchmen), I assume that I cannot take both him and Zoraida without embarking on very big game points-wise, of which I have little interest. I really brought Z into the crew because I wanted to get Killjoy into a Collodi crew which may not even be possible now at all. I guess I will have to wait for the 2E rules. :1_Exhausted_Puppet: Anyone else bumping into 2E oriented dilemmas? I had purchased Collodi Crew to support my Lilith - now I don't now if I want play Collodi as a crew commander. Maybe I will be using wicked dolls in Zoraida crew. Funny thing: I obtain Collody very recently - so I don’t even had opportunity to use him. Edited May 12, 2013 by caen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GKP Posted May 13, 2013 Report Share Posted May 13, 2013 Well. I picked Von Schill because of the Slow to Die/Soulstone thing, so there goes that. I'm predicting the Strongarm getting better though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joel Posted May 13, 2013 Report Share Posted May 13, 2013 Only small spanner for me is to do with a themed Seamus willy wonka crew I painted a while back and still haven't used! It contains a lot of proxy models, and includes Von Schill as grandpa joe. I'll simply need to re proxy the model as someone else now no biggy. Personally I'm loving the opportunity to play all the masters, and current henchmen, in new ways with new puzzles to solve. It's going to be a lot of fun. Although I love my current crews, I'm not going to mourn for them either - I'm simply going to dive into the new stuff! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soul Puppet Posted May 13, 2013 Report Share Posted May 13, 2013 Personally I'm loving the opportunity to play all the masters, and current henchmen, in new ways with new puzzles to solve. It's going to be a lot of fun. Although I love my current crews, I'm not going to mourn for them either - I'm simply going to dive into the new stuff! A BIG +1 to this! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dumb Luck Posted May 13, 2013 Report Share Posted May 13, 2013 How do you think I feel? I have to learn an entire new faction! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mythicFOX Posted May 13, 2013 Report Share Posted May 13, 2013 How do you think I feel? I have to learn an entire new faction! Lol. It's messed up my plans to play Guild to the end of the year. Having seen the Tina art I'm going to have to go back to my first ever master; 'Tina. I may well dust off old man Ramos if he gets a boost. Ideally some form of steam powered hip replacement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zac Posted May 13, 2013 Report Share Posted May 13, 2013 It's messed up my plans on getting the current models, and advanced my plans on finishing my terrain while I wait for the new stuff to come out. Hopefully I'll have a completely modelled malifaux table by release date, which is also incidentally my birthday month. Rock on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i_was_like_you Posted May 13, 2013 Report Share Posted May 13, 2013 It's messed up my plans on getting the current models, and advanced my plans on finishing my terrain while I wait for the new stuff to come out. Hopefully I'll have a completely modelled malifaux table by release date, which is also incidentally my birthday month. Rock on. It's a good plan. As we'll still be able to use our old models, once we finally get our hands on the new stats for them (some crews will be waiting longer than others), I'm trying to drive on with painting what I have. More terrain is always a plus, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cats Laughing Posted May 13, 2013 Report Share Posted May 13, 2013 M2E is messing up my plans to get into Convergence, and making me somewhat regret supporting the Relic Knights and Hell Dorado kickstarters... On the bright side, there's a second job in my future, so maybe I can afford this anyway. Now to find enough time to play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i_was_like_you Posted May 14, 2013 Report Share Posted May 14, 2013 Time, money, and energy...So hard to balance them out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m1nd1ess Posted May 15, 2013 Report Share Posted May 15, 2013 My plan to not have to buy more Master's for a while... I will only own Collette, Kaeris, and Mei when the beta starts... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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