MajorUndead Posted March 2, 2020 Report Share Posted March 2, 2020 1 hour ago, GrumpyGrandpa said: Ugh, I hope the release will be early this week - Really lookin' forward to the news Strats and schemes I'm guessing it would be on Wednesday this week (or, if there's more delay, next week), using Waldo's weekly's schedule Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doomikov Posted March 4, 2020 Report Share Posted March 4, 2020 Nothing like finding out all the schemes and stats less than a month before a major tournament. Can't wait to be totally confused at Adepticon when these actually release. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pergli Posted March 4, 2020 Report Share Posted March 4, 2020 1 hour ago, Doomikov said: Nothing like finding out all the schemes and stats less than a month before a major tournament. Can't wait to be totally confused at Adepticon when these actually release. I'll be right there with you fumbling my way along through these schemes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farmoar Posted March 4, 2020 Report Share Posted March 4, 2020 you guys have 3 weeks to get a grasp. plus, the rules are right there at your fingertips whenever you go on a bathroom break. more than enough time to not be fumbling and confused 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doomikov Posted March 5, 2020 Report Share Posted March 5, 2020 These should have been released after Adepticon. We didn't even get a full year with the base strats and schemes. And yes I can read the rules ahead of time, but play time always trumps reading time for experience. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adran Posted March 5, 2020 Report Share Posted March 5, 2020 12 hours ago, Doomikov said: Nothing like finding out all the schemes and stats less than a month before a major tournament. Can't wait to be totally confused at Adepticon when these actually release. I agree - the joy of learning the newness all at the same time, and the chance to reset the advantage of experience a little is something I would like before all my tournements. (I think my outlook of the game is different to yours and probably many others. I build a fresh crew every game, so I like that people will also have to do this rather than just sticking with the same turf war list they played for the past 6 months. I like no-one knowing the strats and schemes before an event and having to build based on them at the table. I like it when T.O.s throw in old starts and scheme mixes from old gaining grounds that people haven't played in ages. I am aware some others don't like this, but I do ). And when ever they were released, someone would complain about it being just before a "big" tournament. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doomikov Posted March 5, 2020 Report Share Posted March 5, 2020 3 hours ago, Adran said: I like it when T.O.s throw in old starts and scheme mixes from old gaining grounds that people haven't played in ages. Haven't played in ages? M3E is less than a year old and already they're changing GG. Why implement new changes so close to a major tournament though? I mean Bushido has new season cards that just released as well and the TO said they would not be legal at Adepticon because it's too close to the tournament and some people might not get a chance to use them before then. Does this mean we will get new seasons twice a year instead of yearly? Or even before every major tournament to reset the experience level? That would be pretty cool to have new ones at Gencon. Also lets brew up a few new ones right before Nova while we're at it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddy Posted March 5, 2020 Report Share Posted March 5, 2020 GG0 was called "0" for reasons. GG will be once per year. GG0 was only substitue and kinda hotfix for core rulebook misions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doomikov Posted March 5, 2020 Report Share Posted March 5, 2020 If it's once per year then it should be after a major convention, not right before it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adran Posted March 5, 2020 Report Share Posted March 5, 2020 23 hours ago, Doomikov said: Haven't played in ages? M3E is less than a year old and already they're changing GG. Why implement new changes so close to a major tournament though? I mean Bushido has new season cards that just released as well and the TO said they would not be legal at Adepticon because it's too close to the tournament and some people might not get a chance to use them before then. Does this mean we will get new seasons twice a year instead of yearly? Or even before every major tournament to reset the experience level? That would be pretty cool to have new ones at Gencon. Also lets brew up a few new ones right before Nova while we're at it. Fair point. I was refering to M2e events I played where the T.O. would put a round in with older strats and schemes, possibly combinations that hadn't been together before. I don't know what the definition of Major tournament is. The US system is pretty different to the UK system, and on size a lot of the events held in the UK are bigger in terms of participants than a lot of the big convention events held in the US (that I know the numbers at). And its up to the organisers at the events if they want to use the newer rules or not. EDIT _ as I understand it this is 1 of only 2 events Wyrd is actually running this year (Gen con being the other). Surely it makes most sense for them to release new rules before an event they are running as they will be on hand to deal with any confusion. This was Kyles words on why it was called Season 0 (And so now season 1) rather than yearly. Quote No, this does not mean that you will be receiving four Gaining Grounds documents a year. Generally, they’ll continue to stay on the yearly schedule, but there may be instances where an Encounter pool wasn’t as exciting as we had originally hoped. By utilizing a Seasonal system rather than simply a yearly rotation, it gives us the opportunity to freshen that pool a little faster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShinChan Posted March 5, 2020 Report Share Posted March 5, 2020 1 hour ago, Doomikov said: Haven't played in ages? M3E is less than a year old and already they're changing GG. Why implement new changes so close to a major tournament though? I mean Bushido has new season cards that just released as well and the TO said they would not be legal at Adepticon because it's too close to the tournament and some people might not get a chance to use them before then. Does this mean we will get new seasons twice a year instead of yearly? Or even before every major tournament to reset the experience level? That would be pretty cool to have new ones at Gencon. Also lets brew up a few new ones right before Nova while we're at it. There's a "big tournament" almost every month/two months, so it would happen at some point (people play Malifaux outside the US). The only difference is that maybe it wouldn't affect you. So you're pissed because you won't have an advantage over your rivals for having practising more with the GG0? GG1 looks really nice, at everyone would be at similar level of knowledge on the tournament due to the time constrains, so my personal advice: try to have fun and enjoy playing the game Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santaclaws01 Posted March 5, 2020 Report Share Posted March 5, 2020 8 hours ago, eddy said: GG0 was called "0" for reasons. GG will be once per year. GG0 was only substitue and kinda hotfix for core rulebook misions It's not necessarily once per year anymore. Every GG iteration probably won't be complete changes, but they will be more often than in 2e. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farmoar Posted March 6, 2020 Report Share Posted March 6, 2020 10 hours ago, Adran said: I don't know what the definition of Major tournament is. The US system is pretty different to the UK system, and on size a lot of the events held in the UK are bigger in terms of participants than a lot of the big convention events held in the US (that I know the numbers at). And its up to the organisers at the events if they want to use the newer rules or not. quoted for truth. you knocked it out of the park. maybe people associate the cost of attending a tournament to it being "major". from what I can see, there are only 32 spots available at Adepticon. if those players were savvy enough to sign up in advance, they can also take the time to practice and read up on the rule news, since this is a "major" tournament. does a "major" tournament count as any event that has a cap? does the UK scene cap out their "major" events, or do they not count? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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