NAX3011 Posted July 14, 2019 Report Share Posted July 14, 2019 Hi Guys Most of the Zoraida games there is Vasilisa in the starting Crew so I thought about adding Collodi. Could this work? Has anyone xp with it? If yes what did the List look like. Greetings Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regelridderen Posted July 14, 2019 Report Share Posted July 14, 2019 It’s a combination that people whine about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wenshai Posted July 15, 2019 Report Share Posted July 15, 2019 I think Lucius and 3x changelings and collodi could be worse, putting collodi in a point and consistently obeying him to make your opponents charge/attack themselves Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NAX3011 Posted July 15, 2019 Author Report Share Posted July 15, 2019 9 hours ago, Regelridderen said: It’s a combination that people whine about. But why Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NAX3011 Posted July 15, 2019 Author Report Share Posted July 15, 2019 6 hours ago, Wenshai said: I think Lucius and 3x changelings and collodi could be worse, putting collodi in a point and consistently obeying him to make your opponents charge/attack themselves You can't obey masters.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santaclaws01 Posted July 15, 2019 Report Share Posted July 15, 2019 9 minutes ago, NAX3011 said: You can't obey masters.... obey the changelings, the changelings use Just Like You to copy puppetmaster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NAX3011 Posted July 15, 2019 Author Report Share Posted July 15, 2019 Ah ok now I got it, but Lucius&Collodi is not the combo I wanted to know Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wenshai Posted July 15, 2019 Report Share Posted July 15, 2019 Zoraida, 3x changelings and Collodi. Ooh yeah. Lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tors Posted July 15, 2019 Report Share Posted July 15, 2019 5 hours ago, Wenshai said: Zoraida, 3x changelings and Collodi. Ooh yeah. Lol. Changelings can only copy tactical actions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adran Posted July 15, 2019 Report Share Posted July 15, 2019 20 minutes ago, Tors said: Changelings can only copy tactical actions Like puppet master Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clement Posted July 15, 2019 Report Share Posted July 15, 2019 So between Collodi puppetmastering directly, and Zoraida obeying the three changelings to use Collodi's puppetmaster again, and the changelings using it AGAIN under their own power... you're looking at 9 uses of puppetmaster per turn for 31 stones worth of dude.... What do you put on the receiving end of that power? I assume Hinimatsu or maybe a coryphee (because flips are a thing?) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adran Posted July 15, 2019 Report Share Posted July 15, 2019 Hinamatsu is probably number 1 for damage. Stitched together is another possibility, fiendish dreams is once per activation, although I don't know how often you'll ant to use it. Vasilla with her stat 7 damage and discard a card attack is pretty good to remove an enemy hand before they activate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santaclaws01 Posted July 15, 2019 Report Share Posted July 15, 2019 1 hour ago, Clement said: So between Collodi puppetmastering directly, and Zoraida obeying the three changelings to use Collodi's puppetmaster again, and the changelings using it AGAIN under their own power... you're looking at 9 uses of puppetmaster per turn for 31 stones worth of dude.... What do you put on the receiving end of that power? I assume Hinimatsu or maybe a coryphee (because flips are a thing?) Don't forget the cards being draw by the changelings, and you could take a bokor for more obeys while also providing healing so collodi could chain with changelings using his attack to get them to puppetmaster him on his turn getting more cards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucky_Dice_6 Posted July 16, 2019 Report Share Posted July 16, 2019 Puppetmaster cannot target the same model more than once during the same activation. So you cannot only use Hinimatsu. Durring zoriada/lucius activation you cannot target Hinimatsu 3 times with puppetmaster Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adran Posted July 16, 2019 Report Share Posted July 16, 2019 12 minutes ago, Lucky_Dice_6 said: Puppetmaster cannot target the same model more than once during the same activation. So you cannot only use Hinimatsu. Durring zoriada/lucius activation you cannot target Hinimatsu 3 times with puppetmaster Once per activation limits are per model (page 33) Puppet master from Collodi is a different action to Puppet master from Changling 1 and so forth. So you can puppet master multiple times as long as its different models that puppet master. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrumpyGrandpa Posted July 16, 2019 Report Share Posted July 16, 2019 Strange how this combo comes out now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barmution Posted July 16, 2019 Report Share Posted July 16, 2019 29 minutes ago, GrumpyGrandpa said: Strange how this combo comes out now. It doesn't. There was a fair bit of talk about this one during Beta combined with Thoon while he didn't have the Once Per Turn limitation on the Frozen Trophy trigger. People mostly ignored it after Thoon got the limitation but it's fairly potent if a little vulnerable to key pieces getting taken out. Guessing that it doesn't generate much of a buzz since Dead Man's Hand is expected to not be allowed as part of the Gaining Grounds rule set when it arrives. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrumpyGrandpa Posted July 16, 2019 Report Share Posted July 16, 2019 32 minutes ago, Barmution said: It doesn't. There was a fair bit of talk about this one during Beta combined with Thoon while he didn't have the Once Per Turn limitation on the Frozen Trophy trigger. People mostly ignored it after Thoon got the limitation but it's fairly potent if a little vulnerable to key pieces getting taken out. Guessing that it doesn't generate much of a buzz since Dead Man's Hand is expected to not be allowed as part of the Gaining Grounds rule set when it arrives. Huh, don't remember seeing that. Still, seems like it is buzzing now 😉 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santaclaws01 Posted July 17, 2019 Report Share Posted July 17, 2019 15 hours ago, GrumpyGrandpa said: Huh, don't remember seeing that. Still, seems like it is buzzing now 😉 More people are playing, so there's more running into it/ questioning how well masters work together. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctrl+alt+obey Posted July 25, 2019 Report Share Posted July 25, 2019 Zoraida Collodi 3 Changlings ... Then what? Hinamatsu or Vasilisa? How many ss would this crew need? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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