JayseN Posted August 6, 2016 Report Share Posted August 6, 2016 14 minutes ago, Krosanreaper said: That's one thing they don't go into mostly just saying that they are a little better than the other gamin so Sandeep has one more option than 4pt dudes and the 8pt Banasuva. They mention a few of the gamin upgrades Sandeep gives out and I've seen them elsewhere. There are three "Commands" and three "Visions" Commands in Earth - Model may not be moved or pushed / +1Rg , +3Rg Commands in Fire - Model may not cheat fate / Model is immune to slow Commands in Wind - Model may not attack / Other models in 3 get to attacks Visions in Earth - Model may not be moved or pushed / Constant Yammering 6 like on Zipp's card Visions in Fire - Model may not cheat fate / May interact while engaged Visions in Wind - Model may not attack / May interact the turn it is summoned I like that mix. Its basically "schemes or kill" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krosanreaper Posted August 6, 2016 Report Share Posted August 6, 2016 Ya the only thing that wasn't too clear is if Banasuva also needs to attach one of those upgrades, I sounded like it does. and those are some big drawbacks. I'm hoping that Banasuva is also a minion, witch is never mentioned, so he can take Sandeep's placement action and still move if he take one of the Earth upgrades. For the record this is the stats for our big flaming friend as per that podcast Df Wp Wd Wk Cg Ht 5 4 8 5 7 3 ________ABILITIES________ Flaming Demise, Melee Expert This model may not be hired. When this model is summoned sacrifice it unless another friendly gamin within 2 takes two damage that may not be reduced, then sacrifice all other friendly totems ATTACK ACTIONS________________ (1) The Thousand Arms of Justice (MI 6 / Rst: DF / Rg: 2): Target suffers 3/4/5 "With a couple of useful damaging triggers" TACTICAL ACTIONS______________ (1) Toss: Like the Ice Golem (0) target a friendly gamin within 8, select an ability or action printed on the target's car that this model does not already have. This model gains the chosen action or ability until the end of turn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
floso Posted August 6, 2016 Report Share Posted August 6, 2016 Hmm I hope banasuva doesn't have to take an upgrade. Are there any models except hans that can remove upgrades that arcanists can hire? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adran Posted August 6, 2016 Report Share Posted August 6, 2016 I think you'll have to plan ahead to summon banasyva, what do you want from him, and pick the down side that fits that job. Not cheating is the most versatile, but quite harsh. He doesn't want the not able to attack. If you're holding an area then not moving can be fine. But you need to get his placing right. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retnab Posted August 6, 2016 Report Share Posted August 6, 2016 That's a lot of cool stuff, thanks for sharing! I assume then that the Commands and Visions are separated across the two Limited upgrades? How are his other upgrades, the Academic one and the one nobody's mentioned? And how about Kudra? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
floso Posted August 6, 2016 Report Share Posted August 6, 2016 Also anyone know what the base sizes are. Are they all 30mm and banasuva a 50mm want to get bases ready for when my gencon order arrives! Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bengt Posted August 6, 2016 Report Share Posted August 6, 2016 Looks like Sandeep (the clipped model on the right has to be him) has a 40 mm base. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kobayashi Posted August 6, 2016 Report Share Posted August 6, 2016 20 minutes ago, Bengt said: Looks like Sandeep (the clipped model on the right has to be him) has a 40 mm base. It is* 40 mm * bless Wyrd for the spoil 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krosanreaper Posted August 6, 2016 Report Share Posted August 6, 2016 2 hours ago, retnab said: That's a lot of cool stuff, thanks for sharing! I assume then that the Commands and Visions are separated across the two Limited upgrades? How are his other upgrades, the Academic one and the one nobody's mentioned? And how about Kudra? Yes the upgrades are split three per limited. They don't talk about the other upgrades or Kudra but I'm keeping a lookout for more info. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Posted August 7, 2016 Report Share Posted August 7, 2016 The player who was runner up in the main Gen Con tournament played Sandeep twice in the finals before losing on the final table with Ramos. So Sandeep has a perfect record. 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bengt Posted August 7, 2016 Report Share Posted August 7, 2016 48 minutes ago, Justin said: The player who was runner up in the main Gen Con tournament played Sandeep twice in the finals before losing on the final table with Ramos. So Sandeep has a perfect record. cuddle Sandeep! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kobayashi Posted August 7, 2016 Report Share Posted August 7, 2016 Now I wonder, was the box painted and based, if yes, than people seem to have too much time at GenCon. TOO MUCH TIME! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
katadder Posted August 7, 2016 Report Share Posted August 7, 2016 21 hours ago, floso said: Hmm I hope banasuva doesn't have to take an upgrade. Are there any models except hans that can remove upgrades that arcanists can hire? well if you summon him t he same rules apply to him as other gamin minions so will need an upgrade. summon him into melee with the no move but extended range one, or go with the no cheat but immune to slow. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retnab Posted August 7, 2016 Report Share Posted August 7, 2016 2 hours ago, Kobayashi said: Now I wonder, was the box painted and based, if yes, than people seem to have too much time at GenCon. TOO MUCH TIME! Too much time to tell us what's in the new book so far at least we need details, still too many unknowns! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solkan Posted August 7, 2016 Report Share Posted August 7, 2016 No one has answered the critical question: How well was Sandeep painted? I know last year, I tried buying and assembling stuff at Gen Con, I barely got to "assemble and prime the models". Buying the box, painting it, and then placing second is like the Malifaux triathalon. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fog Posted August 7, 2016 Report Share Posted August 7, 2016 4 hours ago, solkan said: No one has answered the critical question: How well was Sandeep painted? Poorly. I didn't have all the paints I needed and I had very little time between tournaments and volunteer shifts to get it taken care of. On top of that, on my best day I am a slow painter who hits tabletop quality with three hours per model painted. It's taken me five years to be able to manage this amazing level of mastery. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bengt Posted August 7, 2016 Report Share Posted August 7, 2016 On 06/08/2016 at 4:50 AM, Krosanreaper said: Commands in Earth - Model may not be moved or pushed / +1Rg , +3Rg Visions in Earth - Model may not be moved or pushed / Constant Yammering 6 like on Zipp's card So they could still use Sandeep's The Path of Salvation since a place is not a move? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bengt Posted August 7, 2016 Report Share Posted August 7, 2016 Another thing about the summon upgrades, do the Gamin/Banasuva die/sac if Hans were to shoot it off? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
katadder Posted August 7, 2016 Report Share Posted August 7, 2016 wouldnt have thought so, just a condition of summoning to have one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fog Posted August 7, 2016 Report Share Posted August 7, 2016 6 hours ago, Bengt said: So they could still use Sandeep's The Path of Salvation since a place is not a move? Yes. It's pretty essential. 6 hours ago, Bengt said: Another thing about the summon upgrades, do the Gamin/Banasuva die/sac if Hans were to shoot it off? No. Discussed this with Justin before I played him. 14 hours ago, katadder said: well if you summon him t he same rules apply to him as other gamin minions so will need an upgrade. summon him into melee with the no move but extended range one, or go with the no cheat but immune to slow. Yeah, he needs to take an upgrade. I used fire most frequently, especially if I could have the buff summon nearby. I didn't get much work out of him with the scheme upgrades. Without the positive he was spending a lot of time just sitting there eating up attacks. He's relatively ignorable in that mode and you could likely save trouble and cards by summoning a normal instead Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solkan Posted August 7, 2016 Report Share Posted August 7, 2016 8 hours ago, Fog said: Poorly. I didn't have all the paints I needed and I had very little time between tournaments and volunteer shifts to get it taken care of. On top of that, on my best day I am a slow painter who hits tabletop quality with three hours per model painted. It's taken me five years to be able to manage this amazing level of mastery. I know you're being humble about the paint job, but from this side I'm seeing that it was even more impressive than previously related. Because it wasn't just a tri-athalon, it was a pentathlon--assemble, paint, tournament, volunteer and shop. Congratulations on doing so well. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retnab Posted August 7, 2016 Report Share Posted August 7, 2016 Actually that raises a question I haven't seen answered so far, what are the details on his summoning spell (range, TN, triggers, etc)? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harlequeen Posted August 8, 2016 Report Share Posted August 8, 2016 3 hours ago, solkan said: I know you're being humble about the paint job, but from this side I'm seeing that it was even more impressive than previously related. Because it wasn't just a tri-athalon, it was a pentathlon--assemble, paint, tournament, volunteer and shop. Congratulations on doing so well. He did the same thing last year with the Ulix box too (although he didn't take it into the final tournament). @Fog is going to need a intervention one of these years 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fog Posted August 8, 2016 Report Share Posted August 8, 2016 58 minutes ago, harlequeen said: He did the same thing last year with the Ulix box too (although he didn't take it into the final tournament). @Fog is going to need a intervention one of these years It's becoming a tradition. 3 hours ago, retnab said: Actually that raises a question I haven't seen answered so far, what are the details on his summoning spell (range, TN, triggers, etc)? You're looking at needing 4+ cost and a mask. Normal summoning range. No triggers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaladanCid Posted August 9, 2016 Report Share Posted August 9, 2016 Quick question. Why does Banasuva have a cost? He has to be summoned so will never need a SS cost, or am I missing something pretty important? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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