TychoTerziev Posted December 29, 2014 Report Share Posted December 29, 2014 Buying Malifaux is quite addictive and December was pretty much dry for Neverborn I really want to get something before the year is over and as I have bought almost every NB M2E model and don't want to start another faction, I have turned my gaze to the Outcasts. I already have Bishop and Killjoy and I am quite happy how they perform on the table. Probably I am getting the Freikorps Specialist from a friend because he seems handy against those pesky ressers. I REALLY want to get Johan and Taelor but it seems they won't be showing up anytime soon. Right now I am looking at the Strongarm Suit and Lazarus, but as much as I love their models I am not sure that I will get anything from them on the battlefield. I have played mostly Lilith and now I am focusing on learning Lynch, but later I will try to master Pandora and Zoraida. So, what outcasts do you play in NB? Do the suit and the robot make sense in that faction? Thanks in advance and happy holidays! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bertmac Posted December 29, 2014 Report Share Posted December 29, 2014 I think a lot of people use freikorps trappers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpiralngCadavr Posted December 29, 2014 Report Share Posted December 29, 2014 I don't feel like NB hurt for melee brawlers, however, Lazarus is a strong mid-range piece and the Trapper's pretty solid if you're worried about a lack of guns (though a bit less necessary since Lynch has a decent quantity of range in a thematic list). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnythingBut Posted December 29, 2014 Report Share Posted December 29, 2014 I'm fairly new to neverborn myself but was pointed towards the fact that the wave 2 upgrade retributions eye works extremely well with the strongarm suit. A decent heavy hitting enforcer with a good damage track who can't be tied down by simply engaging him is a great place to put that upgrade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TychoTerziev Posted December 29, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 29, 2014 Yes! This seems like a nice combo. Also Pneumatic Actuator helps getting around damage prevention, which NB seems to be lacking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonahmaul Posted December 29, 2014 Report Share Posted December 29, 2014 Trapper's are useful for everybody. Convict Gunslingers are also very good though the 1SS Merc tax might make them less favourable. One thing to note - Taelor almost certainly won't be showing up on her own at all. She's already part of the Viks box so you are likely to need to buy that if you want her. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TychoTerziev Posted December 29, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 29, 2014 I would love to buy the Viktorias. as I love the concept of the crew, but it seems to be out of stock everywhere and I can't find anything about reprint. Any Ideas? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patzer Posted December 30, 2014 Report Share Posted December 30, 2014 Trappers are a nice range option. Lazarus with Retribution's Eye is pretty horrible. He synergises very well with Collodi too. If you have a Rider heavy meta, the Freikorp Strongarm Suit could be a great addition. Ronin can be useful if you need to deal with armor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hateful Darkblack Posted December 30, 2014 Report Share Posted December 30, 2014 A lot of people really like Bishop with Pandora specifically, since Bishop causes a lot of Wp duels. Some people say a lot of good things about McTavish in a Neverborn crew, especially with Zoraida. (Mercenary, but not Outcast) Everyone like Johan for Condition removal, and Freikorps Librarian for healing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
admiralvorkraft Posted December 30, 2014 Report Share Posted December 30, 2014 I don't find the Librarian super useful outside of Outcasts. Maybe it's an unfair comparison, but I hate paying more for the model to do less... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joel Posted January 2, 2015 Report Share Posted January 2, 2015 A ronin. Ignores armour - something we don't do well. Seppuku - for 2 soulstones or 2 cards. This has synergy with our masters in different ways. Lynch can benefit from cards here to boost final debt. Anyone with wings of darkness can benefit from the extra soulstones too. Disguised - makes her a great model to be moved up with tangle shadows by Lilith - and free defensive stances cements this Next target - bring able to strike and push away makes her a good scheme runner, as well as good at dealing with other runners. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asrian Posted January 2, 2015 Report Share Posted January 2, 2015 My most used Mercs for my crews are: Killjoy - Because KILLJOY! McTavish - Works well with most any master (as he can be very independent), provides ranged attacks that don't randomize and ignore soft cover, makes an excellent Mimic target for a Doppelganger (Having 5 shots of his gun, with trigger, over two activations a turn is just brutal), has a good melee attack with a 3" threat range and a potential 1-shot trigger, can eat corpse, scheme, or scrap markers, has a mobile soft cover area for a 0 action, and he works well with swamp fiends for added synergy. Ronin - For all the reasons Joel mentioned above Performer - wonderful scheme remover, good lurer with wonderful triggers of paralyze and expunge essentially (love using her with Zoraida and Lure + Paralyze trigger the voodoo doll and it's hem target, works better than a nurse to me for the simple fact that I never have to make the tough decision of potentially healing an enemy) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbobovalsocks Posted January 2, 2015 Report Share Posted January 2, 2015 One of my regular opponents plays a strongarm suit in his NB crew. I think it's a lot of ss to pay for one model but it is powerful. The damage it puts out is impressive and it's very hard to kill. I know he puts an upgrade on it but I can't remember which one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asrian Posted January 2, 2015 Report Share Posted January 2, 2015 Jimbo, the most likely upgrades, for me anyway, to put on Strongarm would be either Fears Given Form (any enemy activating inside the model's engagement range takes a Df test or else suffers 3 damage) or Retribution's Eye (this model ignores Armor, sacrifice the upgrade to ignore Armor and Defense triggers until end of turn). With Strongarm's 2" engagement range and its ability to charge so easily, it would make either very handy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnternalVoid Posted January 3, 2015 Report Share Posted January 3, 2015 Jimbo, the most likely upgrades, for me anyway, to put on Strongarm would be either Fears Given Form (any enemy activating inside the model's engagement range takes a Df test or else suffers 3 damage) or Retribution's Eye (this model ignores Armor, sacrifice the upgrade to ignore Armor and Defense triggers until end of turn). With Strongarm's 2" engagement range and its ability to charge so easily, it would make either very handy. Mimic's Blessing might not be bad either if you are worried about shooting on approach or want to hinder swarming against him *as he can charge out of combat near the end of a round it means the following turn they cannot just recharge him so easily* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rathnard Posted January 3, 2015 Report Share Posted January 3, 2015 Bishop or Oiran with Pandora. The former offers an incredibly flexible beatstick with the option for both wp-based attacks and (just in case) df based attacks, while the latter has a +1 wp aura. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dante83 Posted January 3, 2015 Report Share Posted January 3, 2015 Jimbo, the most likely upgrades, for me anyway, to put on Strongarm would be either Fears Given Form (any enemy activating inside the model's engagement range takes a Df test or else suffers 3 damage) or Retribution's Eye (this model ignores Armor, sacrifice the upgrade to ignore Armor and Defense triggers until end of turn). With Strongarm's 2" engagement range and its ability to charge so easily, it would make either very handy. Fears given form also forces tests from friendly models. It's in the FAQ/errata I believe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asrian Posted January 3, 2015 Report Share Posted January 3, 2015 Yeah, Dante, it effects everyone (it's on the card itself). I didn't mean to imply that it didn't. I was just speaking of what the upgrade could do to the enemy specifically. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dante83 Posted January 3, 2015 Report Share Posted January 3, 2015 Ok. I was just trying to clarify as until the FAQ I had personally played it wrong (skim reading cards is the bane of my life!!). It went from being an auto include on Huggy to an upgrade I barely use these days Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asrian Posted January 3, 2015 Report Share Posted January 3, 2015 Hell, it's still an auto-include for me...Huggy, Pandora, Candy, others. I use the hell out of that upgrade. I just am careful with my deployment placement and my activation order if a friendly is close to a Fears Give Form model (I'll activate the model first and move them away if needed/able unless it would potentially screw something up, then I'll just plan on cheating the defense dual if I have to). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dante83 Posted January 3, 2015 Report Share Posted January 3, 2015 To be fair that does seem a popular opinion and I fully intend to go back to trying it out, but both neverborn and Lynch are brand new to me (new faction for a new year and all that!!) and so I am just in the stages of learning what my models do. Having to be extra careful about activation order etc. is just a headache for me right now. Anyway I didn't mean to derail the thread. Back on topic I fully echo what Joel said regarding Ronin. Armour appears to be the bane of my life since moving away from my beloved Outcasts!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joel Posted January 4, 2015 Report Share Posted January 4, 2015 Jimbo, the most likely upgrades, for me anyway, to put on Strongarm would be either Fears Given Form (any enemy activating inside the model's engagement range takes a Df test or else suffers 3 damage) or Retribution's Eye (this model ignores Armor, sacrifice the upgrade to ignore Armor and Defense triggers until end of turn). With Strongarm's 2" engagement range and its ability to charge so easily, it would make either very handy. Fears given form is for henchmen and masters only - not enforcers like the strongarm suit I'm afraid. Eye of retribution is fun on him, but he can ignore damage reduction anyway on a trigger, so he doesn't always need the upgrade. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asrian Posted January 4, 2015 Report Share Posted January 4, 2015 TY Joel. Not sure what I was thinking, but yes, Retribution's Eye is damn near an auto include for an Enforcer when I see them, if I think the model will benefit from it (or has a damage track that can capitalize on it). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patzer Posted January 8, 2015 Report Share Posted January 8, 2015 Neverborn is in general not that hungry for crows, which is what the Strongarm needs for his trigger. So Eye of Retribution might not be the best upgrade on him. With that said, what other upgrade would you take with him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterDisaster Posted January 8, 2015 Report Share Posted January 8, 2015 Can't believe nobody has really discussed Johan / Johana! Condition removal isn't really something that is common within Neverborn and it's incredibly useful not to mention he has a Relic Hammer and HtK with 8 Wounds AND Flurry. Johan works well with anybody and even at 7ss with the merc tax he's worth it! I can also see Sue being useful with his variety of support buffs and he's pretty kick ass with his guns to boot! Not sure I'd pay 9ss for him though. Hans on the other hand... Yeah... I'd totally take him for 9ss Killjoy with Lilith seems like a no brainer! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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