phetish Posted November 4, 2013 Report Share Posted November 4, 2013 So... I enjoy podcasts as much as the next guy. I enjoy Malifaux as well, so it would be a natural connection to want to listen to some Malifaux Podcasts, right? But it seems that virtually every single one of the Malifaux themed podcasts is crazy long. 1.5 hours seems to be on the short end, with most averaging 2 hours, with some running as long as 3 hours. Why is that? Derek Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rancor709 Posted November 4, 2013 Report Share Posted November 4, 2013 For me, its cause I tend to talk alot, and I have to give time for Adam to talk this leads to longer episode late. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ukrocky Posted November 4, 2013 Report Share Posted November 4, 2013 When I started bayou broadcast the plan was 20 minute episodes. That plan went out the window, might start doing mini-casts if i find time though! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgraz Posted November 4, 2013 Report Share Posted November 4, 2013 Easy......because they're are so many cool things to talk about! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rsteelrose Posted November 4, 2013 Report Share Posted November 4, 2013 I for one am thankful for longer podcasts, otherwise I'd never make it through my 12-14 hour workday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soundwave Posted November 4, 2013 Report Share Posted November 4, 2013 Makes travellin' to work that much easier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forar Posted November 4, 2013 Report Share Posted November 4, 2013 You're not alone Phetish. I prefer to read over listening to things (except when Zero Punctuation is involved, but those are only 5 minutes long), so I love transcripts I can chew through in 5-20 minutes, but don't care for 2 hours of chatting. I know many do, and more power to them. It's just not for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gyouza Posted November 4, 2013 Report Share Posted November 4, 2013 I listen to Malifools occasionally while working and it's not too bad. Though really I only listen/give it a chance if I see a post on the forums about a new one or something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guy in Suit Posted November 4, 2013 Report Share Posted November 4, 2013 I'm am pretty sure my hours of drunken ramblings that were recorded at Warstore Weekend for Guessing Zero are going to have to be edited down to about 3 minutes if they want to get past the App store profanity police, so you should have that to look forward too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenton Crack Posted November 4, 2013 Report Share Posted November 4, 2013 I'm in the camp that longer is better, as long as the content is not totally empty, and most of the Malifaux podcasts I think are doing a good job. There is only one that reminds of some of the lower quality Warhammer Fantasy podcasts I stumble through, the podcasts where they are asking each other what they ate, of whether an episode of Walking Dead ended the way they thought it would, or how a friend of a friend's new job is going, or anything that looks like they are just padding the length, or dont know how to plan/edit content. I don't want the content to be indistinguishable from random conversations one might overhear at a restaurant, but otherwise welcome the long podcasts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lemonconstruct Posted November 4, 2013 Report Share Posted November 4, 2013 How do long do people generally feel a podcast should be then? is it short and often? or longer but less frequent ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phetish Posted November 4, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 4, 2013 How do long do people generally feel a podcast should be then? is it short and often? or longer but less frequent ? Thanks for asking! Personally, I would prefer shorter, more often podcasts. My favorite podcasts are 20 minutes, and 1 hour long respectively. The first is laser focused on a single topic (not Malifaux) which changes each week but remains under the broad theme of the podcast. The second has a broad theme with 4-5 shorter segments which explore topics within that theme (again, not Malifaux themed) I don't want the current Malifaux themed podcasters to feel like they have to change for me and me alone, although I am that important <---- that's a joke, folks However, I won't listen to a podcast that is over an hour long. If it is 20 minutes long, it will get my devoted attention for that time. At an hour, it will have to be something that I listen while doing laundry or something. If it is over an hour long, it's just not gonna happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucidicide Posted November 4, 2013 Report Share Posted November 4, 2013 I think it all depends what you're going for. When I started A Crit of Gamers, an hour was chosen because it's hard for me to pay attention to a podcast for longer than that as a listener, and that also means it's much more likely you can get through one in one sitting (as opposed to half on the drive in and half on the drive out). I didn't go shorter than an hour because then I might feel too clipped. Each person is, I'm sure, making the same assessment on what they record and/or listen to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cats Laughing Posted November 4, 2013 Report Share Posted November 4, 2013 How do long do people generally feel a podcast should be then? is it short and often? or longer but less frequent ? My morning (and evening commutes are ~1 to 1.5 hours long, which means that podcasts that fit in that range are great. I do love a few of the longer Malifaux podcasts, and in those cases I'll just listen to it both in the morning and evenings (and probably while walking the dog as well). I find this works ok, as I can pick them up where I left off; these podcasts aren't like school lessons that need to work off continued understanding of what was presented earlier in the lesson. I don't really need to remember that Podcaster A was talking about his love for McMourning earlier in the podcast, when Podcaster B is going on about how best to use Molly. My biggest pet peeve with podcasts is sound quality. If there's screeching* or static* or one overly loud mic (and the other mics are quiet), than I'm likely to drop the podcast for my ear's sake. *These items are acceptable as the occasion skit sound effect, but too much ruins a podcast. Also too loud can be a pain as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rgarbonzo Posted November 5, 2013 Report Share Posted November 5, 2013 Malifaux podcasts are so long because we, as Malifaux players, love to talk about different interactions and our impressions of models. I've had many conversations about the game lasting longer than the game itself. Add in the random element of different metas and you have a recipe for a whole lot of talking especially with more than 2-3 people on the podcast itself. If everyone has a 10 minute impression of a model and they each express it in said 10 minutes you are up to 20-30 minutes without random thoughts derailing the whole thing. That said I wouldn't mind putting a quick podcast together with others to talk about 1 model per episode and try and keep the time to about 30 minutes or so. Could start working our way through book 1. Just saying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joel Posted November 5, 2013 Report Share Posted November 5, 2013 Because we are geeks. Geeks love to share the passion and love they have for the things they geek over, and it's pretty difficult to shut us up - we bounce off each other, and it takes little encouragement to send us off on another train of thought. It's like being in a room with a number of critters that are the enthusiastic cross breeds of puppies and bouncy balls! I love listening to passionate people enjoying the hobby. Keep it up guys, however you want to go about it - it's free content for the rest of us and it certainly gets me through painting sessions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mako Posted November 5, 2013 Report Share Posted November 5, 2013 ... the enthusiastic cross breeds of puppies and bouncy balls! That's it, I'm off to the lab. This has to be done. I never really thought about it, but I tend to listen to them in sections, usually about 30-40 min a time while I'm doing something else like painting. Spreads the crazy out over a whole weekend that way... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldManMyke Posted November 5, 2013 Report Share Posted November 5, 2013 Its a very good question without, at least in our case, a very good answer. From a Malifools POV when we started the whole thing was supposed to be some mates down the pub recording the chatting they do about games and as time has gone on we've sort of managed to stick with that. However this does lead to longer winded shows as all of us like to chat. They then get especially long when we include one of the infrequent segments that we do 'Diary of a Malinoob' for example. To get around this problem we have tried to get two episodes out of a single recording session, but because of the conversational nature of the recordings you tend to end up with references back to things we had talked about earlier in the evening, which if you spilt it up make no sense. Back around episode 30 we asked the then audience if they thought the show was getting to long and unwieldy and the vast majority of the feedback was no, longer was better so since then we haven't tried to restrict ourselves. If we were to change formats to a segment based format I guess we could reduce the time but as we already update weekly it would actually mean less content for the existing listeners and I don't see that as a good thing. So to the OP I'm sorry that the format we use doesn't work for you, hopefully someone will come along and do that more laser focused cast that you are looking for Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiny Posted November 5, 2013 Report Share Posted November 5, 2013 I paint while listening to podcasts, so the longer the podcast the more painting i get done! Bring on the long ones (thats what she said) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loxley Posted November 5, 2013 Report Share Posted November 5, 2013 Something I find very interesting is how most comments (even by the podcasters) seems to be very much audience focused. As you may (probably don't) know I run two podcasts, the first which was never Malifaux focused but instead was about the game supplement I was making for Malifaux (MaliQuest) and is now focused on the game that has grown into CRyPTs: www.newfairbank.podbean.com - this podcast was aimed at 20 min bite sized slots, however because of limitations with the card duelling system of Malifaux that grew to roughly 1 hr. My other podcast Hobby Sofa www.hobbysofa.coda.net (new home, we have about 3 more episodes that I'm in the process of migrating over) is more about gaming and hobbies and general, but both primary hosts were v1 players. This tends to run for about 2 hrs per show. In both of these cases, I'll be honest that audience opinion doesn't come into it. We're not being paid or anything for doing this, in many and most cases we are paying out of our own pocket to make these, but we do it because we enjoy doing so. So why are they the length they are? Because that's the length that for me(us) is suitable for me(us). If people want to listen in then that's great, but that's a by-product for me, not the goal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucidicide Posted November 5, 2013 Report Share Posted November 5, 2013 We're not being paid or anything for doing this, in many and most cases we are paying out of our own pocket to make these, but we do it because we enjoy doing so. True story. I will podcast for 30 minutes or less for cash. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phetish Posted November 7, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 7, 2013 Well, I guess the cheese stands alone Maybe I should do my own podcast... 20 minutes long... and I can listen to myself! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oathius Posted November 7, 2013 Report Share Posted November 7, 2013 Yeah our podcast we recorded at the weekend came in just over 2 hours. I personally like others enjoy long shows as I listen to them at work. I do listen to shorter ones such as the NFL Around the League podcast which is usually around 30-40 minutes but then once it's finished I wish it was longer lol. But I totally agree with Joel, we're talking about things we're passionate about and it doesn't take long before we start going off on tangents... Maybe I can start putting a short structure list on podbean with timestamps next to topics so people can jump to what they want to listen to if they don't want to listen to the whole thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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