Ozz Posted April 30, 2013 Report Share Posted April 30, 2013 Have to say i am disappointed at the change to the cards, as they are i think they are fantastic, so easy to read, and have pictures so you know what model matches what card. If they make them the same as warmachine & horsed stat cards (standard card size?) They get to small, or it means they are going to dumb down the rules a lot, or give people less ability's, so i have to say that part has me a little worried. But otherwise this is fantastic, i will just be waiting for the 31st to take a look at the current versions of the changes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caen Posted April 30, 2013 Report Share Posted April 30, 2013 I really hope for downloadable 2ed Stats Cards in pdf format for all 1st edition models. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonas Albrecht Posted April 30, 2013 Report Share Posted April 30, 2013 well they basically said so in the malifools podcast... Ah. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
decker_cky Posted April 30, 2013 Report Share Posted April 30, 2013 I imagine gremlins and outcasts will both see the henchman to master transition, since they're right now the two factions that will be lacking in number of masters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tadaka Posted April 30, 2013 Report Share Posted April 30, 2013 Have to say i am disappointed at the change to the cards, as they are i think they are fantastic, so easy to read, and have pictures so you know what model matches what card. If they make them the same as warmachine & horsed stat cards (standard card size?) They get to small, or it means they are going to dumb down the rules a lot, or give people less ability's, so i have to say that part has me a little worried. But otherwise this is fantastic, i will just be waiting for the 31st to take a look at the current versions of the changes Second on this. Warmahords and warhammer are both boring to me as models only have a few options each in game. I love how malifaux is so open ended with lots of abilities on each model. Normal size cards scream to me dumb down the game Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
micahwc Posted April 30, 2013 Report Share Posted April 30, 2013 So...No Nekima update? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicodem Posted April 30, 2013 Report Share Posted April 30, 2013 i hope the "Upgrade Your Models / Customize Your Crew." isn't going to be different weapon options for different ss costs like gw because that is something i don't want in Malifaux Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonas Albrecht Posted April 30, 2013 Report Share Posted April 30, 2013 i hope the "Upgrade Your Models / Customize Your Crew." isn't going to be different weapon options for different ss costs like gw because that is something i don't want in Malifaux Guessing, I'd say McCabe's ability is going to be standardized. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rgarbonzo Posted April 30, 2013 Report Share Posted April 30, 2013 Outcasts will have 5 including Tara need 2 more maybe Misaki becomes Dual Faction to bring em up to 6? Gremlins get 5 new masters! YES!!!!! ---------- Post added at 05:15 PM ---------- Previous post was at 05:13 PM ---------- So...No Nekima update? Maybe she becomes the 7th Master for Neverborn? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicodem Posted April 30, 2013 Report Share Posted April 30, 2013 Second on this. Warmahords and warhammer are both boring to me as models only have a few options each in game. I love how malifaux is so open ended with lots of abilities on each model. Normal size cards scream to me dumb down the game Ditto, i love how the cards are as they stand. also i'd like to see the cards done as the vershion 2 stat cards were done where you posted your old cards in and got replacements sent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nix Posted April 30, 2013 Report Share Posted April 30, 2013 Listening to Through the Breach's interview with Justin (and later with Mack?) and I am really enjoying it. It sounds like it was supposed to be held until the public beta, especially as it sounds like they are reading from a rules document. Lots of references to specifics! Lot's of information about what we will be seeing in V2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moxypoo Posted April 30, 2013 Report Share Posted April 30, 2013 Being new to Malifaux, I have to admit a large amount of trepidation to this announcement. Coming from Warhammer 40K, I'm used to every edition change being accompanied by most of the rules being changed for the sake of change (most likely to sell models). In 40K, the game never gets better, just drastically changes. I really hope Wyrd doesn't take this route, and instead, works to make Malifaux a better game (even though it really doesn't need much). I'll be very disappointed if Malifaux changes drastically, because I love the game how it is right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeleteAccount Posted April 30, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 30, 2013 From what I got, henchmen will mostly be a "small games thing" so their example of the Judge being a hechmen I doubt will mean he'll be beffed up and so on, will probably be pretty close to how he is only he may get use soulstones if he is the boss or something like that. I'd rather completely phase out our current concept of henchmen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Posted April 30, 2013 Report Share Posted April 30, 2013 (edited) Listening to Through the Breach's interview with Justin (and later with Mack?) and I am really enjoying it. It sounds like it was supposed to be held until the public beta, especially as it sounds like they are reading from a rules document. Lots of references to specifics! Lot's of information about what we will be seeing in V2. Naw, we let them post it. Lots of specifics out there in other places too. Edited April 30, 2013 by Justin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keldor81 Posted April 30, 2013 Report Share Posted April 30, 2013 Im both very excited and a little nervous its going to be watered down. I love the amount of abilities each character has in the game and dont want anything to change all that much. I understand that Wyrd is a business and needs to evolve its game so the entry level is a bit more user friendly. The only thing I do know is that I have been on a crazy 10 Thunders spending spree since I got back from Adepticon and now my hand has been stayed with the thought of a entirely revamped game. I wont be buying stuff older than the newest sets waiting for plastic revamped versions of masters I have been thinking about getting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CreepingDeath Posted April 30, 2013 Report Share Posted April 30, 2013 PDF cards are also a negative. I really do not want to have to print off loads of cards. Ink ain't cheap. Faction cards are or should be where they go. By all means have printable pdfs but release the faction cards for those who want to save money over ink or shipping Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Posted April 30, 2013 Report Share Posted April 30, 2013 http://www.lounge.belloflostsouls.net/showthread.php?31233-Malifaux-2-0-Unveiled!&p=301100#post301100 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dracomax Posted April 30, 2013 Report Share Posted April 30, 2013 Honestly, I dont think entry level is all that bad. it's rules confusion (the infamous Attack vs attack) and unbalance which are the bigger problems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Godlyness Posted April 30, 2013 Report Share Posted April 30, 2013 Tara isent that that lady who walked into the maze of forever and found Oblivion? sheesh next time i will go balls out to win for my faction. i want a NEW tyrant master. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rifter Posted April 30, 2013 Report Share Posted April 30, 2013 I am really getting excited for this. A LITTLE annoyed that my new books are getting obsolete so soon... but for better rules, I can accept it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dracomax Posted April 30, 2013 Report Share Posted April 30, 2013 From Link: We have streamlined and cleaned up the stat cards (with a new, easy to read layout, I might add) and moved some of the more complex abilities to upgrade cards, which characters can purchase. I'm hoping that these upgrade cards come with the models,(at least enough to bring them up to the level the model currently has) and that They are at least as cheap to purchase as cards currently are. (Also, that all cards are available in the online store, unlike 1.x) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edonil Posted April 30, 2013 Report Share Posted April 30, 2013 I am really getting excited for this. A LITTLE annoyed that my new books are getting obsolete so soon... but for better rules, I can accept it. Well, keep in mind, based on the newsletter the story is still going to be progressing...I'm hoping for a fluff compendium, but for those of us who own books 1-4 we might not need it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sway Posted April 30, 2013 Report Share Posted April 30, 2013 http://www.lounge.belloflostsouls.net/showthread.php?31233-Malifaux-2-0-Unveiled!&p=301100#post301100 So, from this post I'm seeing that models' stat cards will be relatively simple but the upgrade cards will be where the more complicated rules are. So your master might have a few upgrades that will lose you SS but let you keep the complicated abilities you've had in the past. I think I'll be okay with this. Simplification is bad (in my opinion). But streamlining is great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Posted April 30, 2013 Report Share Posted April 30, 2013 So, from this post I'm seeing that models' stat cards will be relatively simple but the upgrade cards will be where the more complicated rules are. So your master might have a few upgrades that will lose you SS but let you keep the complicated abilities you've had in the past. I think I'll be okay with this. Simplification is bad (in my opinion). But streamlining is great. Tons of info on the various podcasts too. Through the Breach, Tartan Skirmish Radio, and Malifools already posted theirs. More to come. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sway Posted April 30, 2013 Report Share Posted April 30, 2013 (edited) Tons of info on the various podcasts too. Through the Breach, Tartan Skirmish Radio, and Malifools already posted theirs. More to come. And I can't wait to listen to those as soon as I get home from work! For now I'm throwing out my ideas based on my limited information and hoping better informed people will correct me! EDIT: The art in the Raspy picture on BoLS as well as the Candy(?) picture from the email indicate that many of the current models will be drastically redesigned. I look forward to seeing plastic releases of old characters with brand spanking new models. Edited April 30, 2013 by Sway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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