DonCheadle Posted September 2, 2018 Report Share Posted September 2, 2018 With what happened in the lore, can we make any statements as to the future of Barbaros? Most other nephilim will likely slot right under Nekima's rule (she might even pardon Hayreddin), but I feel like Barbaros' loyalty to Lilith might drive him to join another faction.... possibly. Outcasts perhaps? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adran Posted September 2, 2018 Report Share Posted September 2, 2018 Well I think the only thing we can say for sure is he isn't dead. His start was as a former pit fighter who teamed up with bishop ( chronicles somewhere), and I can't entirely remember broken promises to know enough of his loyalty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludvig Posted September 2, 2018 Report Share Posted September 2, 2018 That seems pretty out there. I thought they were trying to makecrews cohesive and thematic. I would excpect him to stay nephilim just like Nekima andLilith were mortal enemies but had no trouble being in the same list through all of m2e. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sc4rpelli Posted September 2, 2018 Report Share Posted September 2, 2018 I'm having this same doubt. I was looking to buy the Lilith box just for Barbaros (I really want him in my Titania crew). Now I think I'll wait for M3E to pick the nephlims, maybe there will be a new henchmen that goes with Nekima (I like her a lot and I'll pick his box in M3E for sure). Is the alternate Barbaros available on the special dates? That miniature is gorgeous and I want to paint it even if his future could be with the outcasts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hYena Posted September 3, 2018 Report Share Posted September 3, 2018 Obviously he is going to turn to the guild. They would love to have a disgruntled former nephilim working for them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewrathchilde Posted September 3, 2018 Report Share Posted September 3, 2018 I thought he already worked for Guild as Perdita’s totem.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludvig Posted September 3, 2018 Report Share Posted September 3, 2018 4 hours ago, hYena said: Obviously he is going to turn to the guild. They would love to have a disgruntled former nephilim working for them. New Judge! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonCheadle Posted September 3, 2018 Author Report Share Posted September 3, 2018 Yeah, where he's going (if he's going at all) is definitely unclear as of yet. (I presume M3E testers will know - part of the reason I didn't sign the beta actually, I wanted to blabber about possible changes). At the very least we'll need some sort of explanation in the lore I feel. Maybe he gets killed and necromancered' by Titania or Hayreddin? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludvig Posted September 3, 2018 Report Share Posted September 3, 2018 Is there a competition to piss off neverborn players or something? Why can't he stay nvb and just yield to Nekima? I think he has enough traction with the nephilim for Nekima to want his support controlling them and I'm sure they can find common ground on the whole Ours! issue. I believe that historically a lot of the influential lieutenants managed to stay in their position of power even when the head of a country/organisation was changed. Even if he and Nekima are at war in the stories he could still stay neverborn just like Nekima in m2e. 3 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sc4rpelli Posted September 3, 2018 Report Share Posted September 3, 2018 29 minutes ago, Ludvig said: Is there a competition to piss off neverborn players or something? Why can't he stay nvb and just yield to Nekima? I think he has enough traction with the nephilim for Nekima to want his support controlling them and I'm sure they can find common ground on the whole Ours! issue. I believe that historically a lot of the influential lieutenants managed to stay in their position of power even when the head of a country/organisation was changed. Even if he and Nekima are at war in the stories he could still stay neverborn just like Nekima in m2e. It will be great if he continues to belong to the Neverborn! Until today that was only fate I was wishing for him. But now I'm imagining how cool would be Barbaros with a sombrero and I'm having mixed feelings about his destiny... 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santaclaws01 Posted September 3, 2018 Report Share Posted September 3, 2018 9 hours ago, Ludvig said: Is there a competition to piss off neverborn players or something? Why can't he stay nvb and just yield to Nekima? I think he has enough traction with the nephilim for Nekima to want his support controlling them and I'm sure they can find common ground on the whole Ours! issue. I believe that historically a lot of the influential lieutenants managed to stay in their position of power even when the head of a country/organisation was changed. Even if he and Nekima are at war in the stories he could still stay neverborn just like Nekima in m2e. Barbaros was more like a right-hand man than just a lieutenant. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludvig Posted September 3, 2018 Report Share Posted September 3, 2018 1 hour ago, santaclaws01 said: Barbaros was more like a right-hand man than just a lieutenant. Fair enough. I guess he could go into exile. I wonder if they'll bring back thematic animosty so you can't hire anyone with any master like it used to be. Lazarus even stayed true through m2e. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adran Posted September 3, 2018 Report Share Posted September 3, 2018 Well he could return to the guild as an upgraded enslaved nephlim, resser in an attempt to raise Lilith, arcanist to release her from the magic prison, neverborn ready to take over the nephlim when nekima dies, outcast in a buddy move with bishop, bayou whilst he is on the run or tt for some random reason. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nikodemus Posted September 3, 2018 Report Share Posted September 3, 2018 "Oi, Graves! Who's that human you hang out with? I need to lay low for a while" 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mortarion Posted September 4, 2018 Report Share Posted September 4, 2018 He could be in a similiar position as when he was kept as a gladiator by the humans - that he lays low and work for Nekima while secretly plotting his revenge... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clockwork_Fish Posted September 9, 2018 Report Share Posted September 9, 2018 On 9/3/2018 at 3:12 AM, Sc4rpelli said: It will be great if he continues to belong to the Neverborn! Until today that was only fate I was wishing for him. But now I'm imagining how cool would be Barbaros with a sombrero and I'm having mixed feelings about his destiny... Perdita: "If anyone asks, your name is Benito." Barbaros: "Shrieeeeek!" Perdita: "We'll work on that, yeah?" 1 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vorschlag Posted September 10, 2018 Report Share Posted September 10, 2018 On 9/2/2018 at 9:15 PM, Ludvig said: That seems pretty out there. I thought they were trying to makecrews cohesive and thematic. I would excpect him to stay nephilim just like Nekima andLilith were mortal enemies but had no trouble being in the same list through all of m2e. Yeh but no player with any integrity ever ran them together. . . . (drums fingers on table and waits) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adran Posted September 10, 2018 Report Share Posted September 10, 2018 1 hour ago, Vorschlag said: Yeh but no player with any integrity ever ran them together. . . . (drums fingers on table and waits) Except all those people who claimed they were paying fluff lists... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludvig Posted September 10, 2018 Report Share Posted September 10, 2018 I never ran Nekima at all. I guess it would be ok if Nekima deployed a little off center and went straight for a duel with Lilith to claim her birthright. Not efficient but certainly thematic. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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