Spellscape Posted May 28, 2016 Report Share Posted May 28, 2016 Hello Together with with friends we want to start Malifaux and friend of mine choosed Ramos set (I'm writing it their name). (rest will be Rasputina , Zoraida , Shenlong and others) He and I never played Malifaux so we need to know what to get in addition to playing cards, starter set to make 50 ss? Thank you for help (I'll be posting in other forum factions because my friends can't write in English) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bertmac Posted May 28, 2016 Report Share Posted May 28, 2016 For ramos, another box of spiders maybe johan. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daniello_s Posted May 28, 2016 Report Share Posted May 28, 2016 Extra box of Arachnids definitely. And Mobile Toolkit. Johan and single Performer would be good addition too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spellscape Posted May 28, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 28, 2016 Thank you Where to find Mobile Toolkit? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFOmega Posted May 28, 2016 Report Share Posted May 28, 2016 Mobile toolkit might not be easy to get yet, just got releases. You'll want a box of 6 spiders for sure, I'd suggest having 9 spiders and 1 swarm. Johan is a great pickup. Mechanical Rider is pretty good as well, but expensive. An electrical creation would be good, they're good to make scrap off of in the first turn so you can start summoning. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daniello_s Posted May 28, 2016 Report Share Posted May 28, 2016 19 minutes ago, Spellscape said: Thank you Where to find Mobile Toolkit? Should be available to buy right now as it is scheduled for May. edit: yep, just checked it and it is available on ebay and various online shops. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
decker_cky Posted May 29, 2016 Report Share Posted May 29, 2016 You don't need a mobile toolkit to start out. I'd say another box of spiders and Johan is the right purchase for starting out as Ramos. Once you have more experience, there's lots more stuff to add. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeJones Posted May 29, 2016 Report Share Posted May 29, 2016 For Ramos, I bought an additional box of Steam Arachnids and an Electrical Creation. I still haven't played the Creation yet, since I lost one of its pieces & haven't yet mustered the will to fix the missing bit. Other than those, I would add Johan or a ranged fighter of some sort. My current favorites are a December Acolyte (which I already had, since I started with a Raspy crew) or Envy (although I wouldn't recommend picking up the Crossroads 7 immediately). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spellscape Posted June 17, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 17, 2016 Is there any online army builder for Malifaux? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFOmega Posted June 18, 2016 Report Share Posted June 18, 2016 1 hour ago, Spellscape said: Is there any online army builder for Malifaux? There's a free android app called The Breach. Not sure if it's available for other OSes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Munindk Posted June 18, 2016 Report Share Posted June 18, 2016 There's a really great crew builder here: http://bythetree.net/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JB11 Posted June 18, 2016 Report Share Posted June 18, 2016 On 5/29/2016 at 2:03 PM, JoeJones said: For Ramos, I bought an additional box of Steam Arachnids and an Electrical Creation. I still haven't played the Creation yet, since I lost one of its pieces & haven't yet mustered the will to fix the missing bit.... I proxied my Electrical Creation with a scrap marker. I usually don't like proxying models and I think it can also be a little unfair on your opponent. I viewed my proxy as acceptable: It was accurate (I treated it as a walking scrap marker). I never let it survive past turn 1. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lusciousmccabe Posted June 18, 2016 Report Share Posted June 18, 2016 The best electrical creation proxy I've seen is a cylindrical transistor glued to a base. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spellscape Posted June 18, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 18, 2016 Using builder I've came up to Arcanists 50ss Crew Ramos -- 4ss Brass Arachnid - 4ss Electrical Creation - 4ss Howard Langston - 12ss Joss - 10ss Mobile Toolkit - 3ss Steam Arachnid Swarm - 8ss Steam Arachnid Swarm - 8ss but I really don't know what to add for remained SS (or what to change) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trixter Posted June 18, 2016 Report Share Posted June 18, 2016 4 hours ago, Spellscape said: Using builder I've came up to Arcanists 50ss Crew Ramos -- 4ss Brass Arachnid - 4ss Electrical Creation - 4ss Howard Langston - 12ss Joss - 10ss Mobile Toolkit - 3ss Steam Arachnid Swarm - 8ss Steam Arachnid Swarm - 8ss but I really don't know what to add for remained SS (or what to change) As newbie 'Ramos prayer' I just read ALL about in this forum: ¤ Don't hire models which u 'll summon (steam arachnids in this case). ¤ Arachnid Swarm 'll need u only may be on turn 5 1st time. ¤ Ramos as a 'support master' often, should pay attention on auras from his upgrades (not so cheap but REALLY usefull) - c below pic#1. ¤ If u find any idea (as on pic#2 below) u should change your team for correct interaction of all models. Two bands from http://bythetree.net/ #1 Melee. #2 Burning(u can change Johan and DecAcolyte on Howard depending on the schemes/strategy). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spellscape Posted June 18, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 18, 2016 Where did you get Recharge Soulstone and Arcane Reservoir cards? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFOmega Posted June 18, 2016 Report Share Posted June 18, 2016 32 minutes ago, Spellscape said: Where did you get Recharge Soulstone and Arcane Reservoir cards? They're in the generalist upgrade deck. Definitely worth getting, As Archanist have really strong upgrades (Imbued Energies, Arcane Resevoir, sometimes Recharge Soulstone is good, if they have a lot of living models) 49 minutes ago, Trixter said: #1 Melee. Gotta ask, who runs Howard without Imbued Energies? It's really just too good on him. 12in Flurry Range or 18in charge range is just too strong. Also, Open current often isn't that useful in my experience A list I personally like is mostly equivalent to yours, but give Joss the Bleeding Edge Tech, and have Joss, Howard, and Johan take Imbued energies. Field Generator could be swapped for Combat Mechanic in some situations, or even a mobile toolkit. If your SS pool is too small for you, I'd drop Joss's Imbued Energies first, then maybe Johan's if you still want another, though personally that turn of fast is often just too good in a melee crew with no movement tricks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trixter Posted June 18, 2016 Report Share Posted June 18, 2016 53 minutes ago, BFOmega said: Gotta ask, who runs Howard without Imbued Energies? It's really just too good on him. 12in Flurry Range or 18in charge range is just too strong. Also, Open current often isn't that useful in my experience Seems like with Nimble Hank not need use Fast for movement and with Reactivate from Brass Arachnid Hank not need use Fast for attack. I think +1 Def and 2dmg prevent after he kill most important enemy's model = Hank survive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFOmega Posted June 18, 2016 Report Share Posted June 18, 2016 I disagree. Sure he's nimble, but people that know what he can do will plan around that. 13in is a lot, but you bump that up to 18in, and suddenly to play around Howard would have to be their entire plan. I've never had too much trouble with losing him anyway. Send him into their flanks at the end of turn 1 or 2, when they might have 1 model that can respond, take out 2 models (one one the first charge/flurry, one on reactivate), and possible nimble to a safer position, depending on if you had to use it to get to the second target or not. He shouldn't be in the middle of their crew, not early on at least. The phrase that usually gets thrown around here about him is that he's a scalpel, not a hammer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spellscape Posted June 18, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 18, 2016 I'm little confused how to assemble swarm and single Arachnid. \ On box printed - 2 Arachnid swarms. Box includes 1 Swarm card and 3 Steam Arachnids (4SS each). So do I have 2 Swarms or 1 Swarm and 3 single or I just can put them on 40mm base and have 2nd Swarm? How to assemble them better? Do I still need Arachnids box or Big Arachnids box? Do I need (in general) anything from Kaeris box? What about Aionus is it good for Ramos (or Arcanists)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retnab Posted June 19, 2016 Report Share Posted June 19, 2016 For a Steam Arachnid Swarm you technically put three Steam Arachnids onto a 40mm base, with Ramos you definitely want the box of 6 Steam Arachnids. Forum wisdom says to do 9 solo Arachnids and 1 Swarm, personally I've gone 6 and 2 but I'm thinking of breaking up the 2nd swarm into single Arachnids as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spellscape Posted June 19, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 19, 2016 Do I need Large Arachnid (newly released)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
admiralvorkraft Posted June 19, 2016 Report Share Posted June 19, 2016 Need? No. They are very good though, (0) scheme marker removal is more important than ever, and they get a great bonus out of the deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spellscape Posted June 19, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 19, 2016 But for 50 SS I need to remove something to include Large Arachnid - what should it be? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
admiralvorkraft Posted June 20, 2016 Report Share Posted June 20, 2016 If it were me? I'd drop Hank and Protection (14ss) plus the BA (4ss) in exchange for 2 Large Arachnids (12ss) and Angelica (6ss). Johan needs Energies instead of BET, and Joss should carry BET and Powered by Flame over his current load out. The positives to attack (Under Pressure) and additional burning (PbF) make large numbers of Arachnids exceedingly dangerous, while Arcing Field is critical in keeping them alive. I would make sure to take a full cache, even if that means dropping Angelica for the Arcane Effigy. I haven't done the math to see if you have that yet... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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