Opheliaphile Posted February 15, 2016 Report Share Posted February 15, 2016 Simply, what is the best master to run with the Pigapult? I figure Ophelia can Oh, a Girl it up 8" and Ulix is great with Pigs, just wondering if there is another combo I'm missing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adran Posted February 15, 2016 Report Share Posted February 15, 2016 Sommer can get a lot of use from it as a freshly summoned Bayou delivery system. Its very hard to stop a "get your bro" "pigapult" list scoring Reconnoitre and denying you scores from it (until you get into the gremlin engine anyway). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daniello_s Posted February 15, 2016 Report Share Posted February 15, 2016 Careful with Pigapult. Hans with Scout the Field can disrupts your entirely plan at the start of the game Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogmantra Posted February 15, 2016 Report Share Posted February 15, 2016 IMO the Pigapult's greatest strength is as a model movement system, particularly on turn 1. It's really good at scoring Public Demonstration and Occupy Their Turf from the new GG2016 scheme pool, as well as Reconnoiter and Interference (especially with Som'er or Ulix churning out bayou gremlins/piglets). Don't forget Ophelia is the only Ht 1 Master and she can be hurled by the pigapult. If you're willing to give up their first turn each, a flanking combo of Francois, Ophelia and maybe a Slop Hauler or Burt could be pretty scary. Lenny isn't a master but he can work alright with it, using a tome each turn with his I'll Love And Pet It upgrade to summon a piglet to use as ammo. I've wanted to try Wong making the Pigapult glowy. It wouldn't be as much of a "holy cow we need to kill this model" as a glowy Burt, but it would have a much longer threat range. Zoraida also has tricks with it. The voodoo doll is Ht1, so if you can hem an enemy while somehow getting the doll near the pigapult, you can spend 1AP/turn to permanently paralyse that hemmed enemy by using the action to throw it, but just placing it in range to be thrown again next turn. For simpler tricks she can always use Obey to get it to Focus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clement Posted February 16, 2016 Report Share Posted February 16, 2016 6 hours ago, Dogmantra said: I've wanted to try Wong making the Pigapult glowy. It wouldn't be as much of a "holy cow we need to kill this model" as a glowy Burt, but it would have a much longer threat range. No deal. Glowey specifically says "non-peon" model. I imagine it's for exactly the reason you're thinking about. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogmantra Posted February 16, 2016 Report Share Posted February 16, 2016 6 hours ago, Clement said: No deal. Glowey specifically says "non-peon" model. I imagine it's for exactly the reason you're thinking about. Aw nuts, that'll teach me to have cool ideas without reading the cards :c Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balefirestorm Posted April 15, 2016 Report Share Posted April 15, 2016 On 2/15/2016 at 7:41 AM, Dogmantra said: Aw nuts, that'll teach me to have cool ideas without reading the cards :c I did try the pult with "Ooo glowy" and Stuffed piglets in the open playtest. Back then, the pult didn't get unstable fro using stuffed piglets either It was just too good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D6Damager Posted April 15, 2016 Report Share Posted April 15, 2016 The Pigapult can run independent of any master as long as you have Lenny and a Slop Hauler. That being said, Somer helps that configuration the most with 'Do it like dis!' to ensure Lenny gets the tomes needed for smooth summoning. In an Ulix crew you can drop Lenny for Sammy and give her the Husbandry upgrade to hang back and summon ammo and war pigs (a little easier since there is no suit requirement) while Ulix rides around in the pig ball buffing the pigs. Still recommend a Slop Hauler here. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guildenstern Posted April 19, 2016 Report Share Posted April 19, 2016 On 4/15/2016 at 10:14 AM, D6Damager said: The Pigapult can run independent of any master as long as you have Lenny and a Slop Hauler. That being said, Somer helps that configuration the most with 'Do it like dis!' to ensure Lenny gets the tomes needed for smooth summoning. In an Ulix crew you can drop Lenny for Sammy and give her the Husbandry upgrade to hang back and summon ammo and war pigs (a little easier since there is no suit requirement) while Ulix rides around in the pig ball buffing the pigs. Still recommend a Slop Hauler here. Ok trying to figure out this bit - Lenny summoning a piglet is dependent upon doing weak damage and pulling a tome - if you do moderate or severe damage that would mean you simply don't summon a pig? Even if you have a tome? Also, what I don't get is the target model for Lenny's attack action "whacked piglet" - is it a friendly or an unfriendly model (I mean for purposes of the combo, not rules wise)? since it says the summoned piglet is in base contact with the target, I'm not quite seeing how you make sure the pig is close enough to the pigapult to use as ammo, unless you use a friendly model? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freman Posted April 19, 2016 Report Share Posted April 19, 2016 Whack the pigapult. With armour +5 you're only going to do one damage no matter what, and cheating down, or hoping double negatives turn up weak, gives you a piglet to sacrifice for shooting. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guildenstern Posted April 19, 2016 Report Share Posted April 19, 2016 I shoulda known it'd be something simple like that lol cool beans thanks! Just got my Pigapult put together now to figure out how to get it to fit on the base o.O it's a bit longer than its base 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freman Posted April 19, 2016 Report Share Posted April 19, 2016 Sort of sit it on top of the base and glue it where it touches. It's what I did with the Steam Trunk. I have the metal Pigapult, sitting in a box, staring at me. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omenbringer Posted April 19, 2016 Report Share Posted April 19, 2016 11 hours ago, Freman said: Whack the pigapult. With armour +5 you're only going to do one damage no matter what, and cheating down, or hoping double negatives turn up weak, gives you a piglet to sacrifice for shooting. I usually just trust to the Pigapult Relenting the attack (page 33) from Lenny, guaranties the for the damage flip and doesn't require cheating. With Som'er providing the required suit for Lenny's trigger and a Slop Hauler to assist in healing the Pigapult back to health it can provide for consistent piglet summoning. One for feeding the Pigapult and another to assist the crew (perhaps by moving Lenny around the board). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guildenstern Posted April 22, 2016 Report Share Posted April 22, 2016 As an additional question, now I'm putting my pigapult and piglets together and contemplating their uses How may piglets would you recommend? Should I buy another box? I have one box atm. Also it occurs to me, wild boars say they are pigs... would anything that affects pigs also then affect them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogmantra Posted April 22, 2016 Report Share Posted April 22, 2016 Without summoning I generally find I'm running three piglets maximum, and if you're running them solely as ammo for the pigapult one of your best bets is to bring Lenny with his I'll Love And Pet It upgrade so he can just summon you a new one each turn. With Ulix summoning I've gone above three but never had more than six, but that's using them for much more than just ammo. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Math Mathonwy Posted April 23, 2016 Report Share Posted April 23, 2016 7 hours ago, Guildenstern said: Also it occurs to me, wild boars say they are pigs... would anything that affects pigs also then affect them? Sure would! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guildenstern Posted April 24, 2016 Report Share Posted April 24, 2016 Evil grinz! thanks again guys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wobbly_goggy Posted April 27, 2016 Report Share Posted April 27, 2016 I have recently been experimenting with Ulix+Pigapult+Old Major+ McTavish ... it's points heavy, but if you can summon in some piggies, there are nice options for interacts. McTavish can do a kind of obey with Wrangle Critter which can make them do (1) actions. You also get some movement shenanigans with Penelope pushing pigs around. Add in Corn Husks for (0) and you've got pigs all over the place interacting and such. I should note that I have had mixed success with this, mainly due to my inability to flip anything higher than a 4. Or draw it into my hand. Even after SS use. But that's just me... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogmantra Posted April 27, 2016 Report Share Posted April 27, 2016 Yeah, as I found to my dismay the other day, summoning Ulix eats up the good cards and when your highest is a single 9 for one guaranteed piglet, you've got some tough times ahead. That's partly why I prefer to use the Pigapult as a repositioning system rather than an attacking model, just because I don't get tempted to cheat and eat up even more cards. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freman Posted April 28, 2016 Report Share Posted April 28, 2016 The answer is Som'er Teeth Jones. What was the question? As an all-round master I'd say he's the best Gremlin. You can always chuck his Family Tree upgrade on Sammy and let her summon while he treads the field shooting things. A Skeeter near her can hand out "do it like dis!" for masks. Lenny (as mentioned) can summon piglets to feed the pigapult, as can Som'er himself if need be (although you probably won't need that many piglets). Bayou Gremlins for "git yer bro". Slop Haulers (because Slop Haulers). Darn. I want to go start painting my Gremlins now. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaerSidis Posted April 28, 2016 Report Share Posted April 28, 2016 Yes played this tuesday night. ..so much fun What Do you mean with "git yer bro"? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adran Posted April 28, 2016 Report Share Posted April 28, 2016 "git yer bro" is the summoning action from Family tree. It needs a Bayou Gremlin in play to summon another bayou gremlin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freman Posted April 28, 2016 Report Share Posted April 28, 2016 Basically an 8 turns one Bayou Gremlin into two Bayou Gremlins that both take two damage. Sammy can carry a Master only upgrade, in this case Family Tree. She can't devote three AP a turn to summoning like Som'er can, but it does free him up to get stuck in while she does the summoning. If you don't have the you can stone for it as normal, or use a Skeeter to cast "do it like dis!" and discard a to add to the total, which could be more economical than spending two soul stones to summon. The Skeeter would need an 8 to get it off though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaerSidis Posted April 28, 2016 Report Share Posted April 28, 2016 Ahhh okey sorry only forgotten the name of the Action, only remembered the name of the Upgrade (Family Tree) 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guildenstern Posted April 29, 2016 Report Share Posted April 29, 2016 How do you mitigate the damage on the Bayou Gremlins - or do you bother? I can never seem to keep them near/next to my slop hauler Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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