GMort Posted September 3, 2015 Report Share Posted September 3, 2015 An unboxing and review of the new Jack Daw starter set...http://gmortschaotica.blogspot.co.uk/2015/09/unboxing-malifaux-jack-daws-guilty-as.html 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Math Mathonwy Posted September 4, 2015 Report Share Posted September 4, 2015 Thank you once again! A very, very valued contribution!But man oh man those Guilty look incredibly silly. Talk about jumping the shark! They look even sillier as models than in the art.On the good side, Jack Daw's air guitar pose is a lot less pronounced on the mini, Lady Ligeia looks good (though that seam is a pain) and Montressor... well, he looks amazingly silly as well but in a very different way. I sort of like him.But those Guilty... *shakes head* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stany Posted September 5, 2015 Report Share Posted September 5, 2015 I think they are a great looking set of figs any chance of a Crossroads Seven build? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zFiend Posted September 5, 2015 Report Share Posted September 5, 2015 Well they are better as sculpts as the art indicated.. But that doesn't mean they are good. Those guilties are just horrible.. Holy hell. I do like Ligeia though regardless of that bj mouth of the century. Jack Daw looks a lot better than the art and render. Actually kinda like him. Montresor is another very comic book kinda villain. So awesome! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sath Posted September 5, 2015 Report Share Posted September 5, 2015 Glad I'm not the only one who thinks Montresor is a bit odd. Mean He's relatively man-sized, but on a 50mm base. With legs that long in proportion to the rest of him I don't envy his tailor either.I'm looking forward to getting some paint on Daw and Ligeia. I can't get past the Guilty though. In both a good way and a bad way.Their design is originalDoes the electric chair guy wobble along on the feet or fly? If it flies, repeat after me: "a dead man is piloting a flying electric chair". TIE fighter noises are encouraged.They're thematic and cheap to hireSo many bits, and what's with the cross guy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zFiend Posted September 5, 2015 Report Share Posted September 5, 2015 I actually like the bed struck one. The Chair is one of the dumbest models I've seen in a while, not as horrible as Scion of Black Blood though but that's another topic. The Cross one is.. Overly violent. And I'm not one to steer clear / complain usually about violent looking minis. But that Cross one is just wow. Wtf happened there and why? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edonil Posted September 5, 2015 Report Share Posted September 5, 2015 (edited) Yeah, I remember being quite sad about seeing the Guilty for the first time... I'm a fan of the rest of the models, but just can't bring myself to want those things. (shakes head) I will say if I ever get the box I'm going to take advantage of the base size on Montressor and put him standing on a Gallows. Edited September 5, 2015 by edonil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slapdrone Posted September 5, 2015 Report Share Posted September 5, 2015 Really disappointed with the guilty. Having all the other outcast masters and the metal Jack, I was looking forward to getting his crew. I was worried when the art was released, but was waiting on the models for final judgement. Saw them at Gencon and decided there was no way I was buying the box. I never want to see those models on the table. Not opposed graphic designs in general, I just think they're dumb. Wrong time period? Why 40mm bases other than the models were scaled to large? Hard to image them getting around the board. I've put together a proxy crew and like using Jack, but he'll have to stay at home for any tournaments. Please Wyrd, do a take back and give us something we like. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stany Posted September 5, 2015 Report Share Posted September 5, 2015 I must be the only person in the world that likes these and I don't play jack will say I want jack as I have just got the crossroads seven and want to try running him with them but don't want to buy the box for just one figure!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edonil Posted September 5, 2015 Report Share Posted September 5, 2015 One thing I know I'm curious about is how much does Jack need the Guilty? If you can build a crew around other pieces, I may pick the box up and do that instead, honestly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astrella Posted September 5, 2015 Report Share Posted September 5, 2015 You could always just convert / proxy them as well. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zFiend Posted September 5, 2015 Report Share Posted September 5, 2015 I would probably convert / make proxies. Does anyone have any proxies in mind they'd like to share? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astrella Posted September 5, 2015 Report Share Posted September 5, 2015 I quite like the Armorcast Hostages: http://www.armorcast.com/hostages Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalkris Posted September 5, 2015 Report Share Posted September 5, 2015 It doesn't hurt to have one or two Guilty with your Jack Daw crew, especially where you are also taking 2 non-thematic heavy-hitters. The Guilty are great to bring them into the fold a la Abuela. They're also a royal resilient pain in the butt (especially if you can make them have Finish The Job through Sue - deterrents like those are great).~Lil Kalki Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zFiend Posted September 5, 2015 Report Share Posted September 5, 2015 Actually the Cross guy.. I think it would make an okay model if one would "reattach" the limbs and the head back on to the model. Then it would be guilty. Hanging on strapped to that Cross. Might actually do that should I get this box at some point. Still seriously blacking out on what to do with the Chair. It's just so very stupid.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daniello_s Posted September 5, 2015 Report Share Posted September 5, 2015 (edited) I would probably convert / make proxies. Does anyone have any proxies in mind they'd like to share? Just scroll down to the bottom of the pagehttp://outcastsonthejob.blogspot.ie/2015/08/im-so-tormented-jack-daw-is-in-town.html Edited September 5, 2015 by daniello_s Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathan Caroland Posted September 5, 2015 Report Share Posted September 5, 2015 (edited) I must be the only person in the world that likes these and I don't play jack will say I want jack as I have just got the crossroads seven and want to try running him with them but don't want to buy the box for just one figure!! You're not.If you listen to few vocal folks on the forums, these and quite a bit of other stuff is the worst thing ever put out in ages, etc, etc. Quite a number of folks said the same thing about Crossroads Seven.Me, I look at the sales numbers and considering this and Crossroads set outsold everything by a large measure over Gencon, and went past even our expectations so that the boxes we had brought in we ran out of, I'm not overly concerned about it at the end of the day. Folks had the same reaction to the Viktoria's box set and we know how well that does. We're not going to bat a 100% for everyone every time.Opinions obviously vary though. Edited September 5, 2015 by Nathan Caroland 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edonil Posted September 5, 2015 Report Share Posted September 5, 2015 Yep. Just because I'm not interested in picking up the Jack Daw box doesn't change the fact that other people like it, and rock on them. Aesthetic tastes vary, and what's awesome about Malifaux is that, even with the occasional box set I don't like the look of, there's other box sets where I do. So Jack Daw doesn't grab my attention, the Ironsides box and Shenlong box did. Therefore, I am content. Doesn't mean I won't post my opinion when it's relevant every once in a while though, lol. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathan Caroland Posted September 5, 2015 Report Share Posted September 5, 2015 (edited) Oh I don't mind your opinion in the least. Welcome to it and I often ask for it. Every once in a while is up for debate though as I see the same folks having the same opinion in every thread that mentions said models just about every given time. Edited September 5, 2015 by Nathan Caroland 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patzer Posted September 5, 2015 Report Share Posted September 5, 2015 One thing I know I'm curious about is how much does Jack need the Guilty? If you can build a crew around other pieces, I may pick the box up and do that instead, honestly.They do a lot for him. Plus, they are hands down one of the best 5ss models in the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathan Caroland Posted September 5, 2015 Report Share Posted September 5, 2015 Each one has a movie reference actually. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalkris Posted September 5, 2015 Report Share Posted September 5, 2015 I too very much enjoy how the Guilty look. I only haven;t assembled the Cross Guilty because I ran out of scenic bases and liked that one the least (And that's saying a lot about the other two because I REALLY like these). I was even debating omitting Wrath instead.... That's how I feel here hahaha ~Lil Kalki Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minijunkie Posted September 5, 2015 Report Share Posted September 5, 2015 I must be the only person in the world that likes these and I don't play jack will say I want jack as I have just got the crossroads seven and want to try running him with them but don't want to buy the box for just one figure!! You aren't - I don't see anything wrong with the guilty models at all tbh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clockwork Top Hat Posted September 5, 2015 Report Share Posted September 5, 2015 I actually don't mind the Guilty - but have a better use for the bed and electric chair ones in a diorama I'm planning as patients of Dr Grimmel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zFiend Posted September 6, 2015 Report Share Posted September 6, 2015 I actually don't mind the Guilty - but have a better use for the bed and electric chair ones in a diorama I'm planning as patients of Dr Grimmel.They do make amazing diorama models. I saw one on the Wyrd Place with the "hushing" Orderly next to the Bed struck Guilty. It was amazing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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