Fetid Strumpet Posted April 27, 2015 Report Share Posted April 27, 2015 Because you like Yan Lo? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirial Posted April 27, 2015 Report Share Posted April 27, 2015 As will Molly, Tara and McMourning. They are very good at Turf War. Why chance Yan Lo when you can be certain the aforementioned Masters will definitely do well? Well, they try to find out if Yan Lo is good in Turf War and can thus keep up with those others. You'll have to try to find out, no? If you say "Don't try, the others are better", it's no wonder you cannot find an application for him. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zFiend Posted April 27, 2015 Report Share Posted April 27, 2015 If you say "Don't try, the others are better", it's no wonder you cannot find an application for him. Well see. That's where the problem lies for me. Others are better, why try? Like I know I prefer a steak over a set of testicles. Why try the testies you know when I could be having steak in that same restaurant? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patzer Posted April 27, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 27, 2015 Got such laugh from reading that Dirial! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patzer Posted April 27, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 27, 2015 Because its seems you only had a small sample of those testies. You need to chew it properly and swallow a real chunk before you can really say you preferred it or not, Zfiend 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterDisaster Posted April 27, 2015 Report Share Posted April 27, 2015 Well see. That's where the problem lies for me. Others are better, why try? Like I know I prefer a steak over a set of testicles. Why try the testies you know when I could be having steak in that same restaurant? Well said! Also I've tried Yan Lo a few times and I've easily played against him a bunch more times than that. He does nothing for me one way or the other. I'm not the only person who thinks he's below the power curve. To me he just feels mediocre in comparison to the other Masters in his factions and as zFiend said. Why bother with something you know wont work for you when you've got 12 other Options that you know will? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zFiend Posted April 27, 2015 Report Share Posted April 27, 2015 Because its seems you only had a small sample of those testies. You need to chew it properly and swallow a real chunk before you can really say you preferred it or not, Zfiend Oh you swedes and your appetite for balls. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirial Posted April 27, 2015 Report Share Posted April 27, 2015 Got such laugh from reading that Dirial! I'm not entirely sure why. Because I'm wrong? It's just, shutting down the ideas doesn't have much purpose, in my eyes. Trying them and not liking them is a whole different matter. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Lo Posted April 27, 2015 Report Share Posted April 27, 2015 And again I'll just say, you either get him or you don't. It's not "does he work", it's does he work for you. Removing the 'do you enjoy playing his style' part of it, he can get the job done, whatever set of schemes you throw at him. You can use the Master X does it better arguement with 80% of the masters in the game. Is he top tier easymode? No, but I don't think anyone is trying to say he is. Every master has people that don't get why someone would want to play them. I don't get Hamelin, or Marcus, or half the gremlins. I'm just like.. why? The anti Yan Lo crowd just seems oddly vocal about it for some reason. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zFiend Posted April 27, 2015 Report Share Posted April 27, 2015 We are bored and need someone to pick on. It's Yan Blow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgraz Posted April 27, 2015 Report Share Posted April 27, 2015 We are bored and need someone to pick on. It's Yan Blow. I'm thinking you should save it. The amount of 'I don't like Yan Lo and neither should you' is peculiar to say the least. You don't like him, we get it....but reiterating it every time someone posts a tactic that they used and liked is decidedly unhelpful. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patzer Posted April 27, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 27, 2015 I'm not entirely sure why. Because I'm wrong? It's just, shutting down the ideas doesn't have much purpose, in my eyes. Trying them and not liking them is a whole different matter. No no, I though it was a good snap from your side. I agree with you 100%. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zFiend Posted April 27, 2015 Report Share Posted April 27, 2015 I am eager to hear why people think he is so bad, and also why those people are wrong The post starts with these words. I'm thinking you should save it. The amount of 'I don't like Yan Lo and neither should you' is peculiar to say the least. You don't like him, we get it....but reiterating it every time someone posts a tactic that they used and liked is decidedly unhelpful. Now this thread is to discuss whether you like him or not. This isn't a tactics article where I'm posting that I don't like him. You are overstating it. In this thread I feel I have the right to post my opinion of him. It's the point of the thread and I'm willing to be proven wrong. Now if I went to the Yan Lo tactica thread and posted the same stuff I post here everytime someone posts something, then I'd agree with you. Now I don't. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rathnard Posted April 27, 2015 Report Share Posted April 27, 2015 I miss Malifaux v1.5. It was so much easier to decide who was OP and who was crap back then. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgraz Posted April 27, 2015 Report Share Posted April 27, 2015 The post starts with these words. Now this thread is to discuss whether you like him or not. This isn't a tactics article where I'm posting that I don't like him. You are overstating it. In this thread I feel I have the right to post my opinion of him. It's the point of the thread and I'm willing to be proven wrong. Now if I went to the Yan Lo tactica thread and posted the same stuff I post here everytime someone posts something, then I'd agree with you. Now I don't. I do agree with you and I almost said something along those lines in my last post but I haven't had enough coffee yet and I was afraid I would come off nastier if I got too wordy. My point was that the same negative statement has been done to death.......other masters do 'X' better. The point has been made. What is the value in repeating it? After a couple of pages the thread has certainly evolved with more people chipping in with new tactics and tips that they've used.....but you guys just come in once in a while to repeat the same negative comment. Perhaps my lack of caffeine is causing me to read more into it, but to me the replies come off as 'why are you still bothering with Yan Lo when you've been told that other masters do it better?' 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirial Posted April 27, 2015 Report Share Posted April 27, 2015 Now this thread is to discuss whether you like him or not. This isn't a tactics article where I'm posting that I don't like him. You are overstating it. In this thread I feel I have the right to post my opinion of him. It's the point of the thread and I'm willing to be proven wrong. Now if I went to the Yan Lo tactica thread and posted the same stuff I post here everytime someone posts something, then I'd agree with you. Now I don't. I generally agree with you, but you have to admit that people answered "I'd like to try this or that and see if it works" with "But why would you?". To that, I remarked that "to see if it works" would be the answer. It's not very constructive to shut down the "I want to try this" comments, as there's no (apparent) evidence for or against them. That's all I wanted to express. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zFiend Posted April 27, 2015 Report Share Posted April 27, 2015 I do agree with you and I almost said something along those lines in my last post but I haven't had enough coffee yet and I was afraid I would come off nastier if I got too wordy. My point was that the same negative statement has been done to death.......other masters do 'X' better. The point has been made. What is the value in repeating it? After a couple of pages the thread has certainly evolved with more people chipping in with new tactics and tips that they've used.....but you guys just come in once in a while to repeat the same negative comment. Perhaps my lack of caffeine is causing me to read more into it, but to me the replies come off as 'why are you still bothering with Yan Lo when you've been told that other masters do it better?' I do apologize if you feel that statement is beating a dead horse and trying to persuade other people into thinking the same way I do. It is not the point. It is the point that original poster wanted us, who speak against Yan Lo to be proven wrong. And it is merely a statement that I'm not yet feeling convinced I'm proven wrong. While it is the same statement, it is not meant to be a negative statement as it really reads out but merely me stating that I don't yet feel proven wrong and that he doesn't do things that others do and they do it better. While it is repeating and a negative word, it is not meant to be dismissive. Like I said after your post, you gave me lot to think about and like I said I'm willing to be proven wrong here. I feel that as this thread is also to prove us wrong who feel he isn't good, we are allowed to express our opinion whether we feel convinced about it or not. Now if my posts have been dismissive and negative I do apologize and I will watch my posts from here on forth and try to be more constructive with my replies. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clement Posted April 27, 2015 Report Share Posted April 27, 2015 Back on the topic of Yan Lo... One thing I'm noticing is that he goes after wp really heavily unless you take the woopass stick. Getting your mileage out of him is going to depend on making use of lightning dance. Case in point, in my most recent game against Pandora, I used lightning dance to reposition Pandora and weaver widow into the waiting arms of Izamu, while Yan goes on his merry way murdering sorrows/alps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zFiend Posted April 27, 2015 Report Share Posted April 27, 2015 Case in point, in my most recent game against Pandora, I used lightning dance to reposition Pandora and weaver widow into the waiting arms of Izamu, while Yan goes on his merry way murdering sorrows/alps. That is a good use for Lightning Dance for sure as Pandora probably doesn't like to be repositioned by the opponent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lusciousmccabe Posted April 27, 2015 Report Share Posted April 27, 2015 Whoops, should probably read the last page of the thread before posting... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicodemic Posted April 29, 2015 Report Share Posted April 29, 2015 Lol just realized sensi yu can attach yan lo's upgrades (using disciple) if the soul porter is close enough to give him Chi. This scares me... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patzer Posted May 1, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 1, 2015 Lol just realized sensi yu can attach yan lo's upgrades (using disciple) if the soul porter is close enough to give him Chi. This scares me... Potentially pretty good. Even if the SP will only get 1 Chi (which will be the most likely case), this will mean that Sensei Yu will get Impossible to Wound as well as Terracotta Curse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daysleeper Posted May 4, 2015 Report Share Posted May 4, 2015 Potentially pretty good. Even if the SP will only get 1 Chi (which will be the most likely case), this will mean that Sensei Yu will get Impossible to Wound as well as Terracotta Curse. Chiaki can also gift away her chi if i'm not mistaken Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirial Posted May 4, 2015 Report Share Posted May 4, 2015 Chiaki can also gift away her chi if i'm not mistaken Only to Ancestors, I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daysleeper Posted May 4, 2015 Report Share Posted May 4, 2015 Only to Ancestors, I think. Hmm, thats possible, i don't have my cards in front of me right now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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