rancor709 Posted August 22, 2013 Report Share Posted August 22, 2013 Depends on what other models are in the crew. If there is a ranged poison threat in your crew dogs become a bit nastier as they can 1 action charge the poor poisoned model. Wretches are another fine way to go, again your mileage may vary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malicte Posted August 22, 2013 Report Share Posted August 22, 2013 I've been contemplating bringing Sebastian along with Tara, and using him to just throw dogs out every time something dies. I find in my games with Tara that a lot of things die on both sides of the board, so there's not gonna be a shortage of counters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rameses Posted August 22, 2013 Report Share Posted August 22, 2013 I'm a fan of Tara with a Crocked Man for some good old fashion Shafted fun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Shaper Posted August 22, 2013 Report Share Posted August 22, 2013 I'm a fan of Tara with a Crocked Man for some good old fashion Shafted fun. I was thinking the same thing... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mason Posted August 23, 2013 Report Share Posted August 23, 2013 Tossing Maniacal Laugh on Tara is right old fun, since she doesn't have any other uses for the bodies. I'm not sure if it's effective or not, but it's fun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Math Mathonwy Posted August 23, 2013 Report Share Posted August 23, 2013 Tossing Maniacal Laugh on Tara is right old fun, since she doesn't have any other uses for the bodies. I'm not sure if it's effective or not, but it's fun. *grin* Brilliant! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcalla Posted August 23, 2013 Report Share Posted August 23, 2013 The wretches make for interesting objective runners. And as to the disengaging. They can use their 0 action to give the opponent fast then get :+fate to all duels. That coupled with their modified Df makes em pretty slippery. And during beta having Decaying Aura on the Nothing Beast made him downright horrifying to soulstone user. Though I've read that DA has changed in the final release. Also remember that with Long forgotten magics you can rob your opponent of VPs as well. Particularly with kill strategies. She's aces for reckoning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrimsonWraith Posted August 23, 2013 Report Share Posted August 23, 2013 I'm a fan of Tara with a Crocked Man for some good old fashion Shafted fun. How so? How would you place enough markers to make that effective? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adran Posted August 23, 2013 Report Share Posted August 23, 2013 Also remember that with Long forgotten magics you can rob your opponent of VPs as well. Particularly with kill strategies. She's aces for reckoning. That doesn't work, Reckoning is Killed or sacrificed (Or at least it was). She is good at counter denial, and death effects with the long forgotten magics Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fetid Strumpet Posted August 23, 2013 Report Share Posted August 23, 2013 I find Long forgotten magics is just best for trying to keep something Tara has buried in the box, although I'm personally not certain it is worth 6 ss for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcalla Posted August 24, 2013 Report Share Posted August 24, 2013 That doesn't work, Reckoning is Killed or sacrificed (Or at least it was). She is good at counter denial, and death effects with the long forgotten magics Yeah, but the sacrifice counts from karina so you get credit instead of your opponent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fetid Strumpet Posted August 24, 2013 Report Share Posted August 24, 2013 That is a vague interpretation. I can see how you might think that, but I'm pretty certain that all it does is change the state from killed to sacrificed. Although I could be wrong on it. That might be a good question for an FAQ if and when they get one going. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeregrineFalcon Posted August 24, 2013 Report Share Posted August 24, 2013 While I totally agree with you Fetid on the 'keeping something in the box', I really see the bigger benefit from the 'finish the job' denial. I think she is a solid include. While I've only played one game with Tara I think that Karina is a solid include. I still fall back to the 4-6 void wretch concept everytime though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcalla Posted August 24, 2013 Report Share Posted August 24, 2013 @fetid Not really. The ability states when a model within 8" of Karina is killed that she may discard a card to sacrifice the model instead. So she's discarding and she's sacrificing. That's all her, so for reckoning the sac/kill would go to Karina's owner. Not sure where the ambiguity is. For reference: Open Spoiler Long Forgotten Magics: When another model within :aura8 would be killed, this model may discard a card to sacrifice the model instead Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fetid Strumpet Posted August 24, 2013 Report Share Posted August 24, 2013 I'm well aware of how the card is worded, thank you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malicte Posted August 24, 2013 Report Share Posted August 24, 2013 I'm not sure it's a super huge issue, being that Karina needs LOS for the aura to apply and is not exactly durable herself, but even a point swing here and there could be worth it. Still, I'm not sure she'd be the first 5 stone model I'd pick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcalla Posted August 24, 2013 Report Share Posted August 24, 2013 Can you please point out where you see the ambiguity then, cause I don't see any. P.S. You're welcome. Since you said "I'm pretty certain that all it does is change the state from killed to sacrificed". I figured that the full text would be useful because it also states that she (karina) sacrifices the model. (not inteded to be a slight or dig or anything other than having the correct information at hand for the discussion) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeregrineFalcon Posted August 24, 2013 Report Share Posted August 24, 2013 @fetid Not really. The ability states when a model within 8" of Karina is killed that she may discard a card to sacrifice the model instead. So she's discarding and she's sacrificing. That's all her, so for reckoning the sac/kill would go to Karina's owner. Not sure where the ambiguity is. For reference: Open Spoiler Long Forgotten Magics: When another model within :aura8 would be killed, this model may discard a card to sacrifice the model instead Tara's crew 'having to discard' is a good thing though when you consider the Df for the Nothing Beast and Void Wretch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ausplosions Posted August 25, 2013 Report Share Posted August 25, 2013 It is definitely Karina doing the sacrificing. Otherwise it would say "is instead sacrificed". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcalla Posted August 26, 2013 Report Share Posted August 26, 2013 Its also handy for when you may not get credit for a kill. Say if the model is killed by poison, or burning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barnaberible Posted August 26, 2013 Report Share Posted August 26, 2013 Yup, and having checked the wording it does deny points for reckoning Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
micahwc Posted August 28, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 28, 2013 I am waiting patiently in hopes that there is some good synergy with Tara's crew and Yan Lo's crew. He is the only other ressurectionist I have. I also have Izamu. Hoping they work well together. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeleteAccount Posted August 28, 2013 Report Share Posted August 28, 2013 I am waiting patiently in hopes that there is some good synergy with Tara's crew and Yan Lo's crew. He is the only other ressurectionist I have. I also have Izamu. Hoping they work well together. As long as Izamu is still a huge beatstick, Tara will love him to pieces, so at the very least you will have that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malicte Posted August 28, 2013 Report Share Posted August 28, 2013 Plus, if Wall of Steel is still awesome, moving Ashigaru upfield with bury could be extremely hilarious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drix Posted September 2, 2013 Report Share Posted September 2, 2013 Hmmm there's a lot more to Karina's upgrade than I thought. As for her in-and-of-herself; Price of Eternity combos very well with the Nothing Beast's Truth in Nothingness and Tara's -2wp 6 she gets from Dead of Winter. Either the "Fast'd" models take damage from the Nothing Beast's pulse, or they they accept the to Wp flips and leave themselves more susceptible to Karina's 2 damage aura. You could even use Karina's accomplice after moving her to activate the Nothing Beast's pulse, or a Void Wretch and try and kill something with the :+fate bonuses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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