Graysen Posted January 3, 2010 Report Share Posted January 3, 2010 Hi Guys Got my Malifaux rulebook 4 days ago, love it, have played a game already with a friend but the cover has come away from the book. The spine is perfectly intact. I'm not rough with books EVER! but it seems like a glue problem Anyone else had this issue? And have you had any luck with re-glueing it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Peon Posted January 3, 2010 Report Share Posted January 3, 2010 I must say that we are having the same problem. The cover is coming away at the spine, we have read the book thoroughly but not been rough with it. May have to look into rebinding or similar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poko Posted January 3, 2010 Report Share Posted January 3, 2010 Mine stays complete after three weeks of almost constant usage, so it's probably a bad batch or something. And cover falling off is not so bad as the whole book un-gluing into separate sheets after one read-through, as was the case with FOW "OPEN FIRE" rulebook. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joona Posted January 3, 2010 Report Share Posted January 3, 2010 As long as the pages stick together you should be fine. Almost any kind of glue with somewhat rubbery properties should work. At least Loctite had some available I think. It was a normal superglue gel but it remained flexible after drying. You might want to clean the old glue off before that though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angus Khan Posted January 3, 2010 Report Share Posted January 3, 2010 (edited) That's an interesting problem... I've used my rulebook heavily since GenCon and haven't had any problems with the glue... Rubber cement might work to glue it, though you may want something stronger, dunno. Edited January 3, 2010 by Angus Khan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ispep Posted January 3, 2010 Report Share Posted January 3, 2010 (edited) My cover is looking a little rough around the edges, but the glue seems fine. One option, which I'm considering even though my binding is fine, is taking your book to Kinko's or some other similar print/copy shop type place, and getting it coil bound. They'll chop off the spine, drill it, and then stick a plastic coil in. If you do this you can also get the covers laminated. I've done this with a number of gaming books over the years. wiki link for reference: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coil_binding There is also Comb Binding as an option, although not as good, imo. Edited January 3, 2010 by ispep Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newsun Posted January 4, 2010 Report Share Posted January 4, 2010 Mine did the same thing, was coming off so I took mine to a print shop and had them cut the binding and put in a spiral bind. Now it's easier to use as I can fold it open and also lay it flat wide open. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightgaunt98c Posted January 4, 2010 Report Share Posted January 4, 2010 Not too uncommon of a problem with softcover books. Any chance of a hardback in the forseeable future? That'd be great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gargathor Posted January 4, 2010 Report Share Posted January 4, 2010 I've used my rulebook heavily since GenCon and haven't had any problems with the glue. Same here. I beat the hell out of my rulebooks, and mine is still in great shape after 5+ months. Best of luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangerRob Posted January 4, 2010 Report Share Posted January 4, 2010 Similar problem here, page separated after just one reading of the book and spine not attached. I'm pulling all the pages apart now and will take it to an office supply store to have it spiral bound (costs about $3-$4). Kind of disappointing to have the book fall apart so quickly though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graysen Posted January 4, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 4, 2010 My copy is the second printing, so Im wondering whether the first printing was OK? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangerRob Posted January 4, 2010 Report Share Posted January 4, 2010 Good question, mine that is falling apart is the 2nd printing as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelmor Posted January 4, 2010 Report Share Posted January 4, 2010 First thing I did was get the book spiral bound. I would recommend it for any book you intend to leave opened flat for any amount of time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poko Posted January 4, 2010 Report Share Posted January 4, 2010 My book is 1st printing, and as I said, hold good, so it has to be a bad batch if all the bad books come from 2nd print-probably the printing facility tried to skimp on glue? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyBones Posted January 4, 2010 Report Share Posted January 4, 2010 First thing I did was get the book spiral bound. I would recommend it for any book you intend to leave opened flat for any amount of time. Agreed. I have Kinko's rebind all my rulebooks now days. Typically only $5 per book and it makes life so much easier as i can have it laying flat on the table without damaging the spince (or flopping closed). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBugKing Posted January 4, 2010 Report Share Posted January 4, 2010 Heh. You all should do what I did. Leave it at your parents house in New York when you live in Florida. Then you won't have to worry about glue! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wombats Posted January 5, 2010 Report Share Posted January 5, 2010 Ugh. Mine old one has been beaten up pretty badly and is fine. I just got a shiny new one, though, so I may see this problem, too. Make sure to email Nathan and give him the publication details, etc. It is probably just a dodgey print run but they may be able to ask their printing house nicely to do a re-run or something. Depending on their stock and costs you may even get a replacement. Wyrd are fantastic about replacing minis, depending on the economics they may be able to manage a fresh book. Personally, I'd rather bind the thing and save them the postage. Having the rule book sitting open to a particular page is actually quite useful, especially with the Encounter set-up tables, takes up half as much room on the board, too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lbd Posted January 5, 2010 Report Share Posted January 5, 2010 Mine did the same thing, was coming off so I took mine to a print shop and had them cut the binding and put in a spiral bind. Now it's easier to use as I can fold it open and also lay it flat wide open. Hey, I saw this binding and it looks great. My book is fine and I've been rough with it. If it ever comes apart I'll get the spiral binding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graysen Posted January 5, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 5, 2010 (edited) Have emailed Nathan.... so will see whats happens Edited January 5, 2010 by Graysen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Runewolf Posted January 5, 2010 Report Share Posted January 5, 2010 Mine is fine but, as with all softcovers, if you leave it near a heat source or inside a car the pages will warp and the glue looses its hold. Also if left in too much cold certain glues will dry out loosing elasticity and all the book may fall apart. Spiral binding works great but i find the book looses sturdines and it wabbles in all directions. There are some book printers who will "hardcover" almost any softcover book. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graysen Posted January 8, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 8, 2010 Have emailed Nathan.... so will see whats happens No Reply as yet........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wombats Posted January 8, 2010 Report Share Posted January 8, 2010 Thats pretty unusual, I've gotten responses about orders within hours. Presumeably they are having holidays of some sort around Christmas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricJ Posted January 8, 2010 Report Share Posted January 8, 2010 I just wanted to stop in and let you know that I know Nathan has the email, and we're taking this issue very seriously, as we very much believe in releasing a high quality product. I believe the delay in reply has been so that we can try to figure out the extent of the problem. With the books, we actually did not use glue, but choose the higher quality silicon binding, which never gets hard or cracks and should stay flexible indefinitely. To date we hadn't had any problems, and so we were very disappointed to hear that there may have been problems with the 2nd printing of the book. The good news is that we went through and randomly tested books from the stock we have on hand, and haven't found any with this same problem so far, so happily it does not seem to be a problem with the whole shipment. With all that said, I am sure Nathan will be replying to you shortly, and I'll be sure to remind him to. I do apologize for the problem though! Eric Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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