Joel Posted July 29, 2019 Report Share Posted July 29, 2019 Hello all, after a nearly two-year hiatus, I’ve played my first few games of M3E this weekend and decided to jump back in a little. Of course I started with Dreamer (mainly to see if I detested him this edition - I could never enjoy him in 2E, but loved him in 1st). loved him 😀. Game 1: vs Jack Daw (dreamer, chompy, 2 madness, 2 daydream, 2 stitched, teddy) (jack, totem, 3 guilty, 2 hanged with T13 upgrade) corrupted idols took take prisoner on a guilty and power ritual game ended 6-1 to dreamer. Power ritual with madnesses no issue. Killed the hanged as top priority. Game 2: vs Perdita (Dreamer, chompy, 2 daydreams, 2 stitched, teddy, madness, coppelius) (Perdita, frank, Santiago, Nino, granny, Nephilim totem, papa, monster hunter) plant explosives (2 to dreamer, 2 to coppelius, 1 on madness) (2 on Perdita, 1 on nino, 1 on papa, 1 on monster hunter) i took assassinate and take prisoner on granny game ended: 7-4 to dreamer the point I dropped was on assassinate as I had to kill Perdita when I had the chance. My opponent got 2 for outflank, 1 for vendetta (Santiago on teddy) and 1 on strat. I pinched explosives from Nino and monster hunter to keep dropping them on his side. So, on getting back home I started to see what I could turn up with just the neverborn card pack, and it didn’t take me long to find other crews I’d like to play. i will update this thread as I test and play, so feel free to add suggestions or criticism on my lists/choices as we go. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fetid Strumpet Posted July 29, 2019 Report Share Posted July 29, 2019 Welcome back, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joel Posted July 29, 2019 Author Report Share Posted July 29, 2019 23 minutes ago, Fetid Strumpet said: Welcome back, Why thank you kindly! 😀 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nikodemus Posted July 29, 2019 Report Share Posted July 29, 2019 I enjoyed your content way back. Good to see some more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joel Posted July 30, 2019 Author Report Share Posted July 30, 2019 So, I’ve Been going through the neverborn cards, and checking overlaps in other factions. Things have certainly had a shake up! master summary first: Dreamer: strong and reliable, flexible crew, decent mobility. I like how he plays. Solid choice for most strats/schemes pandora: changed in how she works, but her core abilities from last edition can still be accessed somewhat, it just requires a little setup. Poltergeist is very good this time round. zoraida: 😎😎 ok, probably the top of the pile for neverborn. In the hands of competent players she could easily dominate metas. lucius: certainly improved, lots of tricks here, most of which I know I haven’t uncovered yet. Mimics have some good options. nekima: one dimensional super beater. Effective but not overly interesting. Marcus: not really looked yet. Doesn’t have a neverborn feel for me on first few read-throughs though. titania: solid control play, but I’m not a huge fan yet. I’d need to see her in action to be convinced eurypides: tbc - no real info yet. ill be looking at a model breakdown as I go, initial thoughts first (as above), then drilling down into more detail as I go. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dubh Posted July 31, 2019 Report Share Posted July 31, 2019 Thanks for letting us know how your Dreamer games went. He's been my favorite since I started but I also took some time away. Haven't played in around a year. Looking forward to starting up again once GenCon is over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joel Posted August 1, 2019 Author Report Share Posted August 1, 2019 Henchmen - first takes Aeslin: solid, but not much stands out. Counterspell and the built in crow on his decay action to auto-hit into thorns trigger seem to be the standout abilities. He doesn’t gain much from the 3rd ap from leading a crew, but would not be a bad choice otherwise. wrath: the front of his card is highly forgettable, consumed by wrath is easy to play around. His attack actions are mediocre, but his tactical ones spark my interest. Destructive performance done twice can swing games and violent ghosts is really solid - something pandora would like to see. He’s cheap for a henchman, so he’s a situational maybe for me. hayreddin: wow! Serious damage output here, and the first of the henchmen I would take as a master without hesitation. The all 6 statline is great, 3 good abilities on the card front too. Revitalising ichor looks like too much trouble to set up for the payoff though. But damn, that combat staff! 2/3/4 is really 6/7/8 with necrotic decay since taking the damage will spill his black blood too. He can summon both mindless zombies and terror tots too. I’d be looking for a healer to run with him, but the idea of potentially putting out 24+ damage a turn can’t be overlooked. I’m going to need to buy this model! bad juju: a model I’ve loved in all its incarnations. He retains much of his unkillability on his card front, and picked up a serious speed buff this edition. Still hits hard and the quicksand trigger is worth stoning for. He is a simple model, do not one that would really benefit from being a leader, but he’s a good choice on a board with concealment, or a crew that can generate such. lord Chompy Bits: lacking a way to trigger his feed on fear ability during his own activation is a bit disappointing. Solid beater, but an easy target too. I’d not run him as a leader. However, with dreamer, different story! Chompy can be placed into the right positions and supported easily. Being 0 cost for such a potent beater is off the charts, so yeah - he’s just great. candy: OMG! Little girl got nasty this edition. There is not a bad, or even mediocre ability on her card front. She will need to be in close, but her defensive tech is fine with that. Debuffs galore. Her card back doesn’t disappoint either. Glimpse of insanity gets her in position, temper tantrum is a high TN to push that slow out, and self loathing is great. Goody basket is also a real toolkit action. Candy with 3ap for being a leader would be great - I can see her leading crews quite happily. I can also see her OOK applications being many and varied. the carver: mmm ruthless! His card front is rather busy, allowing him to fit into his keywords well, but I’m miffed about his rather flat damage profile. Crit strike may be built in, but you really want swift running too. As a leader, or if given fast, 6 swings should deal with most things. Breath of fire is great though, and all the better for not having that gun symbol. Using opportunist for pos flips here is a good idea. His healing is slightly limited and risky, but could be worth it. I could see him leading a crew, especially around Halloween. angel eyes: much improved from the last edition. Not a model that wants to see close combat (df4 is bad), but she has ways of keeping herself safe and a few of healing too. She is a superb gun and could take 4 shots (including sidearm) as a leader. Since we can’t merc in any snipers in this edition, she’s great. I wish she had from the shadows though. hinamatsu: very solid beater, fast and reliable. Onslaught could allow her 7 attacks as a leader (using flurry) all with pos flips. Aggressive stance is good defensive tech and lure has never been bad in any edition. Building in a double pos attack as a trigger doesn’t hurt either! Can easily see her leading a crew of puppets. widow weaver: solid henchman, but I’m not seeing master potential here at the moment. Other than as teleport points, the web markers don’t seem to do much this edition. The summoning is useful with stat 7, so she can backup Dreamer well, but I think her role is certainly second fiddle to a master. And that’s my take on the henchmen at this point. Enforcers next I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adran Posted August 1, 2019 Report Share Posted August 1, 2019 34 minutes ago, Joel said: hinamatsu: very solid beater, fast and reliable. Onslaught could allow her 7 attacks as a leader (using flurry) all with pos flips. Aggressive stance is good defensive tech and lure has never been bad in any edition. Building in a double pos attack as a trigger doesn’t hurt either! Can easily see her leading a crew of puppets. You can declare triggers on an attack caused by flurry. Its only actions caused by triggers that don't get to declare triggers. So 8 attacks.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santaclaws01 Posted August 1, 2019 Report Share Posted August 1, 2019 3 hours ago, Joel said: But damn, that combat staff! 2/3/4 is really 6/7/8 with necrotic decay since taking the damage will spill his black blood too. It's 5/6/7 damage. Necrotic decay is a single instance of 1 or 2 damage, so black blood only happens once for declaring the trigger. 3 hours ago, Joel said: lord Chompy Bits: lacking a way to trigger his feed on fear ability during his own activation is a bit disappointing He can if he's engaging a model that doesn't have a 2" engagement range. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da Git Posted August 1, 2019 Report Share Posted August 1, 2019 4 hours ago, Joel said: hayreddin: wow! Serious damage output here, and the first of the henchmen I would take as a master without hesitation. The all 6 statline is great, 3 good abilities on the card front too. Revitalising ichor looks like too much trouble to set up for the payoff though. But damn, that combat staff! 2/3/4 is really 6/7/8 with necrotic decay since taking the damage will spill his black blood too. He can summon both mindless zombies and terror tots too. I’d be looking for a healer to run with him, but the idea of potentially putting out 24+ damage a turn can’t be overlooked. I’m going to need to buy this model! The staff would only be 5/6/7 as you'd take one instance of 2 damage to spill Black Blood once rather than two instances of 1 damage. Still nasty though! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnomezilla Posted August 1, 2019 Report Share Posted August 1, 2019 Never heard Destructive Performance spoken of that highly yet (probably because it dies immediately when I run mine, extreme high priority target), but if you like it, a model with Just Like You! cough changelings cough can cast it first and get the trigger for your true Crossroads model to cast it also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joel Posted August 1, 2019 Author Report Share Posted August 1, 2019 1 hour ago, Gnomezilla said: Never heard Destructive Performance spoken of that highly yet (probably because it dies immediately when I run mine, extreme high priority target), but if you like it, a model with Just Like You! cough changelings cough can cast it first and get the trigger for your true Crossroads model to cast it also. Don’t get me wrong, wrath is not a great model, but he now has a tiny niche Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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