4thstringer Posted July 4, 2019 Report Share Posted July 4, 2019 3 hours ago, frumpypigskin said: Last turn part 2 of assassinate? If you do it AFTER they activate. Then you have to keep him alive. But yeah, I like it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vangerdahast Posted July 4, 2019 Report Share Posted July 4, 2019 It is more reliable with the Emissary (Into the Cage, Stat 4) or Recruiter (Stat 3) than Death Marshal (Stat 2). And they are much more resilient than the Death Marshal. Always a pleasure to kill a Master that way! Especially melee oriented Masters who activate early in a turn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trikk Posted July 4, 2019 Report Share Posted July 4, 2019 11 minutes ago, Vangerdahast said: It is more reliable with the Emissary (Into the Cage, Stat 4) or Recruiter (Stat 3) than Death Marshal (Stat 2). And they are much more resilient than the Death Marshal. Always a pleasure to kill a Master that way! Especially melee oriented Masters who activate early in a turn. Use Agent 46. Have stat 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vangerdahast Posted July 4, 2019 Report Share Posted July 4, 2019 Haven't thought about him! Must check this at release if he hasn't changed after end of beta. Even Stat 5 would be good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trikk Posted July 4, 2019 Report Share Posted July 4, 2019 22 minutes ago, Vangerdahast said: Haven't thought about him! Must check this at release if he hasn't changed after end of beta. Even Stat 5 would be good. Doppel has stat 7 with Mimic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4thstringer Posted July 4, 2019 Report Share Posted July 4, 2019 23 minutes ago, trikk said: Doppel has stat 7 with Mimic God I have to see how many models I can bury in a turn now. Shame I'll have to drop the protection of manip to do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trikk Posted July 4, 2019 Report Share Posted July 4, 2019 4 hours ago, 4thstringer said: God I have to see how many models I can bury in a turn now. Shame I'll have to drop the protection of manip to do it. You can do it via Issue Command Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4thstringer Posted July 5, 2019 Report Share Posted July 5, 2019 4 hours ago, trikk said: You can do it via Issue Command Issue command is non rapid action Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adran Posted July 5, 2019 Report Share Posted July 5, 2019 8 hours ago, 4thstringer said: Issue command is non rapid action I think once you have mimicked the action you can issue command to let the doppleganger pine box. It does mean you will have lost the manipulative. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4thstringer Posted July 5, 2019 Report Share Posted July 5, 2019 56 minutes ago, Adran said: I think once you have mimicked the action you can issue command to let the doppleganger pine box. It does mean you will have lost the manipulative. Oh definitely. My list is 2 death Marshalls, 2 lawyers, doppel with LLC, agent 46 with LLC, scribe and Lucius. My opponent knows what's coming. He'll be running hamelin so at some point I'm sure he will blight up both agent and doppel real big and take them out. Not much I can do about that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HowNot2Wargame Posted July 5, 2019 Report Share Posted July 5, 2019 Also the distracted is handy to put people back in the box. Need to get them in when acitivated so they activate and then you can shut them back in. +1 to the points about it being more of a scoring tool rather than a denial of ap tool. Also allows me to hum 'man in the box' by Alice in Chains each time I use it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4thstringer Posted July 5, 2019 Report Share Posted July 5, 2019 Ok quick rules question. If you have the false witness within 2 and Someone wants to some out of the box, are they on negative flips? I would vote no, but I would hear arguments otherwise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trikk Posted July 5, 2019 Report Share Posted July 5, 2019 1 hour ago, HowNot2Wargame said: Also the distracted is handy to put people back in the box. Need to get them in when acitivated so they activate and then you can shut them back in. +1 to the points about it being more of a scoring tool rather than a denial of ap tool. Also allows me to hum 'man in the box' by Alice in Chains each time I use it. Distracted doesn't work on defense so it doesn't help in putting them back in. 16 minutes ago, 4thstringer said: Ok quick rules question. If you have the false witness within 2 and Someone wants to some out of the box, are they on negative flips? I would vote no, but I would hear arguments otherwise. If you can measure 2" from the False Witness to the Buried model, then be my guest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
le_wahou Posted July 5, 2019 Report Share Posted July 5, 2019 I do not see arguments pointing at the . The buried model tries to get out, not the death marshall who boxed him. The buried model is not on the board. He is not at 2" from your false witness. Even when he will get out, he will very likely break LOS to the false witness by poping on the opposite side of your DM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kharnage Posted July 5, 2019 Report Share Posted July 5, 2019 15 minutes ago, 4thstringer said: Ok quick rules question. If you have the false witness within 2 and Someone wants to some out of the box, are they on negative flips? I would vote no, but I would hear arguments otherwise. No, the buried models don't have range or LoS to draw because they're not on the table. The Bandersnatch for example specifically adds rules so that it can see and attack while buried. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgan Vening Posted July 5, 2019 Report Share Posted July 5, 2019 1 hour ago, le_wahou said: I do not see arguments pointing at the . The buried model tries to get out, not the death marshall who boxed him. The buried model is not on the board. He is not at 2" from your false witness. Even when he will get out, he will very likely break LOS to the false witness by poping on the opposite side of your DM Most of this is right, except it's up to the Death Marshal to place the model popping out, and whether it breaks LOS or not. I was confused by the wording initially too, but the following from pg33 is important. "When Unburying a model, the controller of the Unbury effect places the model back on the table as described by the effect." Despite it being a test made by the buried model, it is still the DM's effect, and therefore controlled by the DM. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2D6 Posted July 5, 2019 Report Share Posted July 5, 2019 Repeatedly box an effigy so it can't switch to emissary, less efficient than killing it, but more fun. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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