snitter Posted April 6, 2015 Report Share Posted April 6, 2015 Sorry if this is the wrong forum for this. And I can't believe I'm the first person to mention it, but... I'm really disappointed with the plastic Guild Guards supplied with the Lucius boxed set. They are beautiful, as are all the sculpts, but they look too different to the original metal guards for my taste. The original guards looked like they might have been the bad guys in a Zorro film; however, the new guards look like gunslingers who wandered into the box by mistake. The male guard resembles a slimmer version of Jeff Bridges in RIPD, while the female guard looks like a reject Perdita sculpt. Why couldn't their outfits have borne at least some resemblance to the old guard uniforms? I'm particularly unhappy that the female guard is wearing a low-cut top instead of a full blouse with chest trim. Maybe I'm the only one on the planet who cares, but these look generic...even - dare I say it - lazy. Or am I alone in this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zFiend Posted April 7, 2015 Report Share Posted April 7, 2015 Nope not really. They aren't the best out there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bengt Posted April 7, 2015 Report Share Posted April 7, 2015 I agree. I would have liked them to have a more distinct uniform. I know Malifaux goes for cheesecake a lot and it can be fun sometimes, but it gets a little too gratuitous for me when you have both a man and a woman and the woman get a different set of clothes that objectifies her. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpiralngCadavr Posted April 7, 2015 Report Share Posted April 7, 2015 Yep, I prefer the old ones. The new ones feel more like desperate mercs or maybe wastrel proxies (without so much swagger) than they feel like guardsmen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ausplosions Posted April 7, 2015 Report Share Posted April 7, 2015 Yeah, they aren't guardsmen. They're gunslingers. Pretty generic. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lusciousmccabe Posted April 7, 2015 Report Share Posted April 7, 2015 Ditto on all points. I liked the pseudo historical uniforms on the original guards. Plus the fact that they wore uniforms kind of made sense for a police force. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zFiend Posted April 7, 2015 Report Share Posted April 7, 2015 The actually would fit more in the bill of Latigo Pistoleros. Where as the Pistoleros seem to have an uniform they would be better as the Guild Guard. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lusciousmccabe Posted April 7, 2015 Report Share Posted April 7, 2015 Which is funny because the metal Pistoleros look so hodgepodge I ended up using them as Desperate Mercenaries... I think the line is suffering a bit from pistol and duster fatigue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ausplosions Posted April 7, 2015 Report Share Posted April 7, 2015 I think the line is suffering a bit from pistol and duster fatigue. Agreed. Is it a Victorian Horror game, or a Western Gunfighter game? Enough with with the Gunfighter tropes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zFiend Posted April 7, 2015 Report Share Posted April 7, 2015 Agreed. Is it a Victorian Horror game, or a Western Gunfighter game? Enough with with the Gunfighter tropes. As cool as some of them are. I gotta agree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wakshaani Posted April 8, 2015 Report Share Posted April 8, 2015 Agreed. Is it a Victorian Horror game, or a Western Gunfighter game? Enough with with the Gunfighter tropes. A little from A, a little from B, and topped off with some modern clubbers (See also: Mohawks, pink hair, and piercings) It's a hodgepodge in a blender. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadowdragon Posted April 8, 2015 Report Share Posted April 8, 2015 But the Guild are meant to be more wild west lawmen, not victorian london bobbies. Apart from the female being twisted around like a pretzel I think the guard look fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirial Posted April 8, 2015 Report Share Posted April 8, 2015 But the Guild are meant to be more wild west lawmen, not victorian london bobbies. Apart from the female being twisted around like a pretzel I think the guard look fine. I'm not too fazed either. They aren't the same scale, though... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zFiend Posted April 8, 2015 Report Share Posted April 8, 2015 I think the male one is okay. But still looks more like a Pistolero with all the dual wielding than a Guild Guard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jewomie Posted April 8, 2015 Report Share Posted April 8, 2015 Actually, when I was building the box, I thought the male guild guard was one of the better pieces in the set. :3 I will agree that I wish the female model was wearing the same "uniform" that way it would actually be a uniform since multiple models wore it... on top of that, her being twisted looks cool and action-y, but I can't help but think of the "Hawkeye Initiative" when seeing them together. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Requirement Posted April 9, 2015 Report Share Posted April 9, 2015 I think they are both great looking models. They just don't scream "Guild Guard" at me. Also, I think the female is posed that way as she is mid-fall from wearing an impossible duster (seriously, look at the thing. No way that can exist in reality.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoHero Posted April 9, 2015 Report Share Posted April 9, 2015 The original metal Guild Guard with the crossed sabre and pistol was really cool and I was really hoping it was gonna be the same in plastic. It's the art they used in the M2E book and cards afterall! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snitter Posted April 10, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 10, 2015 Actually, when I was building the box, I thought the male guild guard was one of the better pieces in the set. :3 The models are lovely, I agree. Just not "guild guard" models. And I'm glad I'm not the only one who thought the female guard crossed the line from "cheesecake" to "objectified". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
admiralvorkraft Posted April 26, 2015 Report Share Posted April 26, 2015 It's unfortunate, because the female sculpt has some really nice touches - she's in the process of drawing her second gun, the hat flying back. If they'd given her reasonable boots instead of heels, the same shirt as the male guard, and changed the posing on the legs so that it looked more controlled it would have been awesome. I would have preferred an updated cast of the old design though. Ah well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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