Malicte Posted May 29, 2014 Report Share Posted May 29, 2014 Very glad to see Nathan's thoughts here on this. It's always awesome to see a game's developers engaged with the community at this level. I too think it's a bit overdone in a number of other minis games, and I'm somewhat glad it's not a major theme in Malifaux. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Godlyness Posted May 29, 2014 Report Share Posted May 29, 2014 "Hell, we even had one lady hold a ritual out in the parking lot trying to drive the evil out of our establishment and to bring us to the 'right way' of thinking." Wow ... Just, wow ... Should have mailed her an exorcist model for her trouble 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EntrepeNinja Posted May 29, 2014 Report Share Posted May 29, 2014 You know what might be interesting in that vein is a neverborn snakeoil salesman evangelical type luring people to their... *ehem* 'salvation'. Seems a bit more characteristic of the world/lore. ENinja 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eldarion Posted May 29, 2014 Report Share Posted May 29, 2014 As much as (per GW's repeated demonstrations) religous fanatics can be fun to sculpt, modify, and paint (due, in part, to a tendancy towards over-the-top iconography) I'm perfectly happy to see Wyrd giving them a pass. 1) Given the existence of people able to use magic in the name of their chosen gods (or themselves) since who knows how far in their past, it seems unlikely that their religious history would be much like ours. 2) I have a funny feeling a group that fanatical would get themselves all wound up about the nephelem, get themselves a nice Crusade all whipped up, charge into the swamp, and disappear, never to be heard of again. Very short-lived faction. 3) Despite gamers' general capacity for seperating fantasy-world religion from their own religion, it reall sounds like a big ol' can of worms. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parker Barrows Posted May 29, 2014 Report Share Posted May 29, 2014 I understand the reasons for no religious faction, but after Nathan's explanation of how it didn't develop in the fluff, I want play a Rezzer priest with a grudge against the Guild in TtB sometime. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wadesauce Posted May 30, 2014 Report Share Posted May 30, 2014 back to the original post. I think that an awesome crew would be A child master, who leads escaped orphans and backstreet pick pocket kids. Probably an outcast crew, all made up of street children, turned organized crime/information brokers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robble Posted May 30, 2014 Report Share Posted May 30, 2014 I would play a street urchin crew in a heartbeat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EntrepeNinja Posted May 31, 2014 Report Share Posted May 31, 2014 Like Gavroche from Les Mis?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hateful Darkblack Posted May 31, 2014 Report Share Posted May 31, 2014 Huh! I mean, there's already Hamelin, which is SORTA a street urchin Crew. It would be pretty easy to add in a Henchman that could hire Lost models that piggybacked on that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omenbringer Posted May 31, 2014 Report Share Posted May 31, 2014 You know what might be interesting in that vein is a neverborn snakeoil salesman evangelical type luring people to their... *ehem* 'salvation'. Seems a bit more characteristic of the world/lore. ENinja I had worked up most of a Homebrew Gremlin crew centered around an "Evangelical Preacher" master a few years back. Never really managed to finish them all but they were heavily inspired by the residents of Lago. They were stronger when bolstered by their companions and would revert to drunken Bayou Gremlin's if separated or failing a Wp duel. My crown jewel (or at least the favorite of the group and one which I considered finished) was the Gremlin Debutante. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baalbamoth Posted May 31, 2014 Report Share Posted May 31, 2014 I'm happy there's no a-typical burning/zealots army, that trope is way tired and overdone in most wargames. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pierowmaniac Posted May 31, 2014 Report Share Posted May 31, 2014 Not bothered either way.......But mostly I don't think the game needs any new factions for a while now! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgraz Posted May 31, 2014 Report Share Posted May 31, 2014 Not bothered either way.......But mostly I don't think the game needs any new factions for a while now! Totally agree. I think the Gremlins were obvious that they needed their own faction....but other than that I thought 10T were all that were needed. They are the stepping stone that allows players to branch into other factions. Play Guild? Here's Lucas McCabe.....now you play 10T....now you have Mei Feng....oh look, now you play Arcanists.....might as well get Ramos. Play Outcasts? Here's Misaki....then Yan Lo...then Nicodem...... etc, etc..... And now that you have other Masters that are dual-faction like Lucius and Zoraida....it's all over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kadeton Posted June 2, 2014 Report Share Posted June 2, 2014 While I think it's a very sensible decision to largely exclude religion from the game, I think it would be a struggle to come up with a fluff explanation that holds up as to why that would be the case in a 'realistic' sense. Religions tend to thrive on persecution, not be stifled by it - burning out the Mary John Jacob Peters Church is more likely to cause that group to spread its influence and increase its followers than to stamp it out. It forces the religion to become a resistance movement, much like the Arcanists (who seem to be doing just fine). The revelation that souls are used to power soulstones would likely whip up a huge religious response, ranging from attempts to stop people from using them and destroying any soulstones they could get their hands on, through ritualistically employing soulstones to ensure safe passage to 'the next life', to enshrining the souls of important cult figures in immortal constructs. It might be safer to say that open, organised religion has been successfully persecuted. In a place like Malifaux, I can see crazy cults popping up all the time, with an incredible variety of religious beliefs and practices cribbed from various sources. However, again, I do agree that it's not a good debate to start with a flagship product. Leave it to Through the Breach campaigns, fluff stories, and the occasional religiously-inspired model. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omenbringer Posted June 2, 2014 Report Share Posted June 2, 2014 Doesn't the "Cult of December" already sort of fulfill the "religious" niche in the world of Malifaux? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kadeton Posted June 2, 2014 Report Share Posted June 2, 2014 Doesn't the "Cult of December" already sort of fulfill the "religious" niche in the world of Malifaux? It certainly fills a religious niche. There are loads of other niches left unfilled. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smokey616 Posted June 3, 2014 Report Share Posted June 3, 2014 Wow that's surreal! I've already painted Frankie Ortega to look like Jesus!!! And lovingly call him Jesus Juan Ortega... Or J.J. For short... The hair and moustache just screamed messiah when I first saw him So I suppose I've already got a religious crew... Hmm Mother Abuella painted in a habit?! I think so Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tusic Posted June 8, 2014 Author Report Share Posted June 8, 2014 I can see an old west preacher-type running around and decrying the evils of soul stones and such fitting into the fluff. It does't have to be a crusade or a batch of fire-bombing templars. Like I said earlier though, I can understand why Wyrd doesn't want to go there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrouchingMoose Posted June 9, 2014 Report Share Posted June 9, 2014 I can see an old west preacher-type running around and decrying the evils of soul stones and such fitting into the fluff. It does't have to be a crusade or a batch of fire-bombing templars. Like I said earlier though, I can understand why Wyrd doesn't want to go there. Soooo.....The Exorcist? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjungledog Posted June 9, 2014 Report Share Posted June 9, 2014 How about a crew that represents one of those old travelling carnivals...there are several characters that would fit well in the Malifaux trope... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EntrepeNinja Posted June 9, 2014 Report Share Posted June 9, 2014 Ugh... please no creepy penguin cliché. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjungledog Posted June 9, 2014 Report Share Posted June 9, 2014 I was talking more about the snake charmer, the midget strongman, the fortune teller...no Penguins... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EntrepeNinja Posted June 9, 2014 Report Share Posted June 9, 2014 More acceptable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omenbringer Posted June 10, 2014 Report Share Posted June 10, 2014 Ugh... please no creepy penguin cliché. Oh my god we can actually write penguin with out the swear catcher hiding it! Wonder how long that will last? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ratty Posted June 10, 2014 Report Share Posted June 10, 2014 it is only a matter of time till clowns get cuddled. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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