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The Viks are weird one too. In the app there's 6 versions. None of them match the 1e or 2e sculpts as far as I can tell and the 3rd and 4th art seems to be a mirror image of a not-yet-released sculpt

That is a lot of questions lol! I'll answer what I can. What is outcasts good at? Honestly just about everything. We're considered one of the stronger factions right now, although I don't think the strongest. There's good options for every strategy and scheme pool. I think only Hamelin and Tara are considered outright bad. Tara got a nerf in the errata and the new stategies are not friendly to her. What are Outcasts bad at? Terrifying crews. There's only 3 ruthless models in the faction and neither Taelor or Freikorpmann are considered very good. It's a painful tax to bring them in. Hans is our only access to stunned. So we can't deal with trigger reliant crews as well as other factions. Also our upgrades suck. Wanted Criminal in particular is viable on maybe 3 models, all Bandits. I don't play Daw but I think he works fine in Outcasts. Our versatile models seem good for him. Zipp looks like the only master who doesn't get anything for playing Outcasts to me. The Viks might be bland, but I'm not sure they were that interesting in m2e tbf. You can still do the slingshot alpha strike if you want. However, they're not the murder machine they were anymore. You've got to pick your attacks much more judiciously. They're more like bullies in this edition, making weaker models sorry they ever got close. I like how the Viks themselves works but the mercenary keyword leaves a lot to be desired. As for pass tokens, the general belief is they made low ss models (<5) almost unplayable because the new way to get activation control is just take out a single unactivated model. Elite lists seem to be what top players are using.

I played this list into leylines and it worked pretty well. It my first time using Levi and it was a casual game my opponent was using Nicodem in (who is probably broken being in Dead Man's Hand). I'm not sure I got value out of Pride either but I think it's one of those invisible things where it changed what my opponent's plans are without me knowing..

Levi is good enough and his crew is versatile enough for all 4 strategies. Viks or Parker might edge him out in a few pools, but it won't be significant. You didn't even mention scavengers which might be the best support model in the faction and the best leyline denier.

I don't believe the abomination is obliged to take a successful interact action. So the owner can say he's placing a marker and then fail. That's why exclusive interview exists right?

I believe you have to to finish the first ability before processing a new one. So you'd have to place first.

I don't know how you can resist bringing an engineer. Tools for the job and their bonus action is so key when I play VS.

I feel like December as a keyword needs a way to summon Ice Gamin. Also her ranged attacks should either need less resources to get off (maybe discard 1 card and you can use triggers via Ice Mirror for the entire activation?) or some card draw added. most of your models want burning. Reducing it for healing might be the most expensive heal in the game resource wise.

Using the new app makes it really easy, once you pick a leader it shows you all available models to be hired. Don't have to worry about it.

I cheated and only deleted my saved crew with Arik. It's working now

I use the mobile app a lot. Going to try deleting all my crews and see if that helps

I've been slacking on updating this thread. I can't load the app if I'm logged in via google. Either firefox or chrome.

I demolished my friend's Tri-Chi crew with Freikorps once. If you can feed her 7s, Hannah can activate, clear her slow, clear her poison, and then grab 2 shielded and 1 focus from an Engineer and just wail on whatever you need. Steam Trunk with emergency syrette and Von Schill with Shrug Off helps too. I put SoDP on 2 Engineers and he kept either failing the terrifying tests or after passing when flipping a high card that would have hit me, then flipping a low card. Also that 6" push at the beginning means they're in position for Von Schill to have them shoot a rocket launcher almost right away. If you're sticking with Amalgam. I think I would try to run as many scavengers as possible. You get a mask for Tools for the Job and you're teleporting out of engagement and taking a focused shot (or giving a big model focused) and pushing them back. They have to walk charge to overcome that. Laugh at their 2" engagement. I also don't mind Levi in melee, especially with SoDP. Channel and it's essentially focused so you should still be hitting without cheating. Necrotic Decay gives you 4/5/6 damage they can't reduce and you heal back all 4 wounds if you kill.

If they do have sniper Outcasts will be the first faction to have multiple models with the ability. Although, Guild and 10T have it on a minion so they can field multiple (and Explorer's Society soon). If they do have an ES faction keyword it would give them a lot of sniper models.

She might be fun with the Viks. Giving them extra charges and protecting them with extended reach. You could potentially get 2 Vik attacks off 1 Misaki AP with This One's Mine or a bunch of whirlwinds

They'd fit outcasts but I don't know who you drop from outcasts to make room. It's really funny to imagine like the Freikorps unionizing and demanding better conditions from Von Schill though

Outside of Kin, Rami can't get 3 AP. You can't directly compare versatile to in-keyword. Models should be better for the cost in keyword and they can be balanced by other weaknesses of the crew. Maybe Rami is too cheap. 50/50 chance at min 3 or extra attack for 7 stones is bit much

Thoughts, feelings, baseless speculation?

I just think it's funny that Bishop has been mentioned positively compared to Hans. When Hans has provided more straight up value for me every time I've used either one. Not more per stone but more total value despite being a stone cheaper.

How is he getting 3 ap by himself? I've played against Rami and Hans easily out performs him ime

Rami can't guarantee triggers. That's huge.

That's some really bad luck. I was hunting masks all game for the Vanish trigger and managed to get it for both my scavengers every turn.

Hans easier to keep alive and project threat better than Bishop. Other models do have tools for the job but they don't have as good of triggers. If he had that he'd have to be like a 10 point model.

The Hamelin nightmare box is what you seek my friend

I feel Hamelin is a weirdo master who has to stay in keyword more than any other. I've found Hans nearly an auto-take for the Viks, and have considered or taken him with Von Schil, Levi, and Parker. I don't have any experience with Tara or Daw, although he seems like a good match for both with the ability to hand out staggered or get pass tokens. You have a model that can get any suit he needs, does min 3 from 14" away. Most importantly for Outcasts is one of 3 models with ruthless and others are really not up to par*. He's also the only model in faction that can hand out stunned. He's got tons of utility and solid damage. *I think Freikorpsmenn are fine in Freikorps but not worth it ook. Taelor is not even worth 9 stones