Korrok Posted April 26, 2021 Report Share Posted April 26, 2021 So I posted about this in a wyrd place but figured I'd mention it here as well. The reap trigger in the app now says "push the target into base contact with this model" rather than placing the model like it had previously. Not sure if this was missed in the master document or if this is an accidental wrong card upload. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maniacal_cackle Posted April 27, 2021 Report Share Posted April 27, 2021 Oh snap, this would really fix the Rider. Possibly make it pretty bad in a lot of situations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maniacal_cackle Posted April 27, 2021 Report Share Posted April 27, 2021 Looks like the Vassal World Series is considering it official if it isn't changed, which makes sense to me. So no more reaping people through forests Although if you want to reap without dragging the other person along, that should be pretty easy to pull of now. ALSO MEANS YOU CAN DO LEYLINES HOLY SHIT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Korrok Posted April 27, 2021 Author Report Share Posted April 27, 2021 17 minutes ago, Maniacal_cackle said: Looks like the Vassal World Series is considering it official if it isn't changed, which makes sense to me. So no more reaping people through forests Although if you want to reap without dragging the other person along, that should be pretty easy to pull of now. ALSO MEANS YOU CAN DO LEYLINES HOLY SHIT. Means you should be able to drag them through hazardous terrain and such as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solkan Posted April 27, 2021 Report Share Posted April 27, 2021 I’m surprised people are trying to take the app’s word for it, instead of looking at the card PDFs. (Card PDF shows the push version, too.) Summaries (like the change list) are notorious for not tracking changes in other documents.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azahul Posted April 27, 2021 Report Share Posted April 27, 2021 19 minutes ago, Maniacal_cackle said: Looks like the Vassal World Series is considering it official if it isn't changed, which makes sense to me. So no more reaping people through forests Although if you want to reap without dragging the other person along, that should be pretty easy to pull of now. ALSO MEANS YOU CAN DO LEYLINES HOLY SHIT. Why no reaping through forests? The target gets pushed until they hit the Rider's base so Severe terrain does nothing. You just don't get to pop the target over to the far side of the Rider's base. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maniacal_cackle Posted April 27, 2021 Report Share Posted April 27, 2021 5 minutes ago, Azahul said: Why no reaping through forests? The target gets pushed until they hit the Rider's base so Severe terrain does nothing. You just don't get to pop the target over to the far side of the Rider's base. Oh.... OH!!! So just can't pluck people out of the middle of enemy groups now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Korrok Posted April 27, 2021 Author Report Share Posted April 27, 2021 8 minutes ago, Maniacal_cackle said: Oh.... OH!!! So just can't pluck people out of the middle of enemy groups now. Yeah absolutely. Being able to drag them off of laylines is also great. Feels like we lost some options but gained some new ones? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maniacal_cackle Posted April 27, 2021 Report Share Posted April 27, 2021 Also exciting that you can just deposit models into combat with your other models now, and leave Dead Rider free from retaliation. Redchapel, anyone? xD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoahScape Posted May 15, 2021 Report Share Posted May 15, 2021 I think its shady that wyrd changed the trigger and left it out of the errata. Regardless of how good it is or isn't now, I think they tried to stealth nerf it and they should have at least been upfront about the change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maniacal_cackle Posted May 15, 2021 Report Share Posted May 15, 2021 8 minutes ago, IronmanKC81 said: I think its shady that wyrd changed the trigger and left it out of the errata. Regardless of how good it is or isn't now, I think they tried to stealth nerf it and they should have at least been upfront about the change. I feel like it was missed rather than being intentional. They missed quite blatant things on Sparks as well (like an entire ability being added). 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoahScape Posted May 15, 2021 Report Share Posted May 15, 2021 4 minutes ago, Maniacal_cackle said: I feel like it was missed rather than being intentional. They missed quite blatant things on Sparks as well (like an entire ability being added). Then why not at least say something? Isn't hard to make a post or announcement stating the change. I didn't know about it for several days and it came up in a game. Just saying, it wasn't addressed at all that I'm aware of, which makes it feel kinda of shady, also on Sparks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maniacal_cackle Posted May 15, 2021 Report Share Posted May 15, 2021 4 minutes ago, IronmanKC81 said: Then why not at least say something? Isn't hard to make a post or announcement stating the change. I didn't know about it for several days and it came up in a game. Just saying, it wasn't addressed at all that I'm aware of, which makes it feel kinda of shady, also on Sparks. Yeah, I wish there was more communication. Like the Outflank change (after the initial change, they changed it twice xD). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bakaryu135 Posted May 16, 2021 Report Share Posted May 16, 2021 (edited) Not sure which version I prefer looking at the PDF and the App versions. PDF version has the push effect which is great for Redchapel however Revel in Death is significantly weaker than the App version (losing the baked in 1 damage and only doing a fixed 2 damage and ignoring Hard to Kill and Demise abilities with Soulfire compared to 2/3/4 and ignoring Hard to Kill only. So far as I can tell looking at a comparison the differences between the two: PDF..............................................................................................................App Reap raven trigger pushes target after Dead Rider pushes..................Reap raven trigger places target into base contact with Dead Rider after he pushes Revel in Death gives Injured +1.................................................................Revel in Death does 1 damage and Injured +1 Soulfire does 2 fixed damage, ignores Hard to Kill and Demise...........Soulfire does 2/3/4 damage, ignores Hard to Kill Edited May 16, 2021 by bakaryu135 fixing typo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maniacal_cackle Posted May 16, 2021 Report Share Posted May 16, 2021 2 minutes ago, bakaryu135 said: Not sure which version I prefer looking at the PDF and the App versions. PDF version has the push effect which is great for Redchapel however Revel in Death is significantly weaker than the App version (losing the baked in 1 damage and only doing a fixed 2 damage and ignoring Hard to Kill and Demise abilities with Soulfire compared to 2/3/4 and ignoring Hard to Kill only. So far as I can tell looking at a comparison the differences between the two: PDF..............................................................................................................App Reap raven trigger pushes target after Dead Rider pushes..................Reap raven trigger places target into base contact with Dead Rider after he pushes Revel in Death gives Injured +1.................................................................Revel in Death does 1 damage and Injured +1 Soulfire does 2 fixed damage, ignores Hard to Kill and Demise...........Soulfire does 2/3/4 damage, ignores Hard to Kill Sounds like your app isn't updated properly. The app should be showing the changes to the Reap and the Revel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bakaryu135 Posted May 16, 2021 Report Share Posted May 16, 2021 1 minute ago, Maniacal_cackle said: Sounds like your app isn't updated properly. The app should be showing the changes to the Reap and the Revel. Hmm yeah looking at it for some reason my app had 108 downloads pending rather than downloading them automatically like it should have been Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrPieChee Posted May 16, 2021 Report Share Posted May 16, 2021 Mine has zero pending, but several wrong! I was hoping that it would get fixed, but I might just have to remove them all and start again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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