Evilbleachman Posted August 21, 2013 Report Share Posted August 21, 2013 Hey! GenCon is over and things are easing into place. I wanted to ask when we could expect the rules to be downloadable, if even. Not everybody was able to snag and pick up one of the new books at the Con and who knows when everybody worldwide will have their orders shipped to them or in their LGS. Any ETA on this matter? I may have missed it in some other thread or something. ._. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mythicFOX Posted August 21, 2013 Report Share Posted August 21, 2013 (edited) Miniature matters isn't the right part of the boards for this thread... BAMF! ...and we're now in Malifaux matters. *grin* Edited August 21, 2013 by mythicFOX Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edonil Posted August 21, 2013 Report Share Posted August 21, 2013 My Thanks Button is gone... but I needed to say how much I approve of the mod voice and powers, mythic. *grin* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mythicFOX Posted August 21, 2013 Report Share Posted August 21, 2013 Thanks edonil, I try. As for the OP's question, I'm not aware of any announcements having been made about downloadable versions of the M2e rules, one way or the other. Personally I doubt we'll see downloadable versions of the files soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evilbleachman Posted August 21, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 21, 2013 Its the miniature malifaux matters curse. Stupid me, thanks for proper placement! I hope they release it soon. D: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sevorin Posted August 21, 2013 Report Share Posted August 21, 2013 In an interview, Mack stated the bosses were looking into what was needed for it to happen, but no decisions were made whether they will do it or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dracomax Posted August 21, 2013 Report Share Posted August 21, 2013 and then Nathan posted that it wasn't happening... :Sad_Puppet1: ---------- Post added at 07:34 AM ---------- Previous post was at 07:31 AM ---------- http://www.wyrd-games.net/showthread.php?45823-Individual-Cards&p=599713#post599713 I suppose if they were willing to let them go as free downloads...but I doubt that highly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeleteAccount Posted August 21, 2013 Report Share Posted August 21, 2013 (edited) I can see why it's a hassle to sell individual cards and a bloody pain. But then that's where bleeding edge tech comes into it and being able to buy digital copies of them or have an app that gives you access to them or some such would be ideal for me. A lot easier access to get the swag. Edited August 21, 2013 by Razhem Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
micahwc Posted August 21, 2013 Report Share Posted August 21, 2013 I hate to be a pessimist, but I will be one anyway. If Wyrd doesn't make cards available electronically somehow it will only be a matter of time until someone does it illegally for them. Actually, it may happen whether Wyrd does it or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dracomax Posted August 21, 2013 Report Share Posted August 21, 2013 and I'm sure that someone will very quickly buy something like 100 or so of each arsenal pack and start selling the individual cards at a profit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornelious1424 Posted August 21, 2013 Report Share Posted August 21, 2013 I'd love to see a PDF version of the Rules. Wouldnt even need to have the fluff, I just like the convinience of sifting through rules pages on my iPad lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhellion Posted August 21, 2013 Report Share Posted August 21, 2013 I'd love to see a PDF version of the Rules. Wouldnt even need to have the fluff, I just like the convinience of sifting through rules pages on my iPad lol. That's what I've been doing with the beta. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
decker_cky Posted August 21, 2013 Report Share Posted August 21, 2013 I'm hoping they make a photoshop file for making your own cards again (though I'd much prefer it if it were compatible with GIMP). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeleteAccount Posted August 21, 2013 Report Share Posted August 21, 2013 and I'm sure that someone will very quickly buy something like 100 or so of each arsenal pack and start selling the individual cards at a profit. I don't think so, you will be eating a LOT of cards and you can't really sell them for more than a dollar or 2 before people go "screw that". Models I can see it more, but chances are that if you load up on Seames crews you will end up with a LOT of rotten belle's and a big number of Seamus on your lap for example. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
decker_cky Posted August 21, 2013 Report Share Posted August 21, 2013 I don't think so, you will be eating a LOT of cards and you can't really sell them for more than a dollar or 2 before people go "screw that". Models I can see it more, but chances are that if you load up on Seames crews you will end up with a LOT of rotten belle's and a big number of Seamus on your lap for example. If people were breaking down and selling cards, you'd see a lot of cards go for almost nothing, and a few cards like moon shinobi (one per arsenal pack) go for $3-4. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dracomax Posted August 21, 2013 Report Share Posted August 21, 2013 Assuming that out of an 8 dollar arsenal pack, there are only 10 cards that are worth selling( I suspect there would be more, but for the purposes of simple math, we'll go with 10) then so long as you charge $.90 per card, plus shipping and handling, you make a profit. not much, but a profit. That being said, it is only a short term industry--eventually, everyone who wants more cards for their M1E crews is going to have them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeleteAccount Posted August 21, 2013 Report Share Posted August 21, 2013 If people were breaking down and selling cards, you'd see a lot of cards go for almost nothing, and a few cards like moon shinobi (one per arsenal pack) go for $3-4. Not really, most people will probably buy said moon shinobi when they actually come out and having multiples of a card is only a necessity for some people not all. The extra cards are mostly for those situations where getting the card and model is not easy, for example, Barbaros, but you can't really justify something like buying a mass amount of decks when you'll only have 3 hot sellers per deck and the rest is glorified cardboard, too much effort for the result. Specially when most people will just buy the deck most times or ask a friend for copies. Hell, I'll get from a fellow player the Rail Golem who doesn't have any intention of using Mei Feng. Also, at 3-4 dollars, most people would probably go screw it, buy the whole deck and get all the cards instead of one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
decker_cky Posted August 21, 2013 Report Share Posted August 21, 2013 Actually...I imagine as models are rereleased, a lot of the duplicates from arsenal packs will be available for trade. There's probably already a decent number of players who bought the arsenal and the Lilith box set who will have an extra available for trade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tye_Informer Posted August 21, 2013 Report Share Posted August 21, 2013 Interesting, the initial argument was Wyrd should sell individual cards, like they used to, because there is this huge demand for individual cards and people shouldn't have to buy the deck for $8. If there is this huge demand for individual cards, then there would be profit to be made in buying decks and splitting them up. However, the argument now is there is no profit in splitting up the cards because there are only 3 or 4 that are worth anything in a deck. (Profit would only require 10 cards in a deck to be worth $1 plus shipping, that gets you a 25% return on investment) If there is no profit for an individual to split up the deck and sell individual cards, that means there is no demand for the cards. If there is no demand for the cards, than Wyrd is making the right choice in not selling cards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeleteAccount Posted August 21, 2013 Report Share Posted August 21, 2013 It's not that simple, there is a demand, but a demand for a few precise cards. The problem is that it's a pain to prepare the logistics to buy and sell cards for someone outside of wyrd, I mean, I speculate without a thought with nightmare editions and Misses, but I would never bother doing the arsenal pack selling scheme since you seem yo get such a measly benefit from all the effort involved, yes, you got 2 bucks from an arsenal deck, but you aren't counting the process of talking to the clients, getting the clients and doing the physical process of shipping it all while still having to be attentive in case anything goes wrong during shipping, just not worth it. What will happen is a lot of trading and probably photocopies. Hell, I'll be giving my local Marcus copies of my beasts since it's a given he will get good use out of them and I could barely care only having one card, on in the case of the Drake, I'll give him a photocopy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solidus Posted August 21, 2013 Report Share Posted August 21, 2013 The original question was wondering if/when the rules for M2e would be available online. I am also wondering the same as it helps get more people into the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clement Posted August 22, 2013 Report Share Posted August 22, 2013 OR.... perhaps some kind of app that combines a searchable pdf of the rules and a crew building/card reference engine? Huh? huh???? You could even charge a fee to unlock the cards/rules on whatever scale makes sense. Just sayin' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bearn Posted August 22, 2013 Report Share Posted August 22, 2013 How about just making product available to buy instead of this half assed release to a select few. Pretty ridiculous to have a release of a new edition of the game and you can't even play because only a few have the cards and real rule book. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i_was_like_you Posted August 25, 2013 Report Share Posted August 25, 2013 How about just making product available to buy instead of this half assed release to a select few. Pretty ridiculous to have a release of a new edition of the game and you can't even play because only a few have the cards and real rule book. They did say it was a pre-release. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helm Posted August 25, 2013 Report Share Posted August 25, 2013 They did say it was a pre-release. Of a product which was free for all to buy online during Gencon, and will soon be free to buy from retailers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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