micahwc Posted August 20, 2013 Report Share Posted August 20, 2013 Theres been some good discussion on the outcast forum about Tara, but not as much here. I was just wondering how people will use her as a ressurectionist. Personally, I am waiting eagerly for the next beta wave as the only other ressurectionists I own are Yan Lo's box set. The only outcasts I have are Taelor and the Convict Gunslinger. Anyway, how are you using her as a resurrectionist? What kind of minions does she work well with? What are your lists looking like? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenton Crack Posted August 20, 2013 Report Share Posted August 20, 2013 Theres been some good discussion on the outcast forum about Tara, but not as much here. I was just wondering how people will use her as a ressurectionist. Personally, I am waiting eagerly for the next beta wave as the only other ressurectionists I own are Yan Lo's box set. The only outcasts I have are Taelor and the Convict Gunslinger. Anyway, how are you using her as a resurrectionist? What kind of minions does she work well with? What are your lists looking like? Her in box synergy is good enough that I think we may see her with similar crews regardless of faction depending on stone level. With "Dead of Winter", you can be running the void wretches even as a rezzer, making the crew 28 stones just running the box and the one upgrade, and DoW will likely have you running some undead death marshals for another 6 to 18 stones, and then you'll want do e upgrades as well. Even as a rezzer, I'll likely only run the Hanged or one other true other rezzer model. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Godlyness Posted August 20, 2013 Report Share Posted August 20, 2013 belles belles belles bury one and now you can use lure with tara!!!! (with a certain upgrade ofc) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edonil Posted August 20, 2013 Report Share Posted August 20, 2013 Bete Noire is one of my favorites, and fits wonderfully with the theme. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fetid Strumpet Posted August 20, 2013 Report Share Posted August 20, 2013 I'm waiting for however the Rogue Necro and Izamu come out. The better crews I've seen pretty much treat Tarta like a mini dreamer and use her as a vehicle to toss a massive monster right into your lines, and then let it activate right after she goes. I personally don't find bete to be as worth her oat and the 1 card tax you have to pay by keeping a high card on reserve for her to justify bringing her, but if Izamu and or the Necro are decent I'll more than happily run them with a Resser Tara and just fling it right into the opponent's teeth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeleteAccount Posted August 20, 2013 Report Share Posted August 20, 2013 Seems to me that as long as you stick to burying our own stuff and considering enemy burials a bonus, she will do fine. I like Bete as a first initial missile, but I just really like how bete behaves now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MinimumPhase Posted August 21, 2013 Report Share Posted August 21, 2013 I have found Tara to work well with Bete Noir. Tara gives Bete Noir the flexibility to unbury on her own terms rather than just when a model dies. Rather than hoping that a model dies near that enemy Tara would like to have paralyzed, Tara can just move near that enemy and unbury Bete Noir herself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mehter Posted August 21, 2013 Report Share Posted August 21, 2013 You have to treat the Nothing Best like a pretty pretty princess until it's time for him to do some damage. You can do this with belles. And more belles. Then some belles after that. I'm not overly impressed with the Wretches, but I guess I need to use them more. I'm going to try to make a Tara resser list that doesn't use Dead of Winter. But I don't think it'll be viable until wave 2 releases, for reasons Fetid has said. I'm willing to bet our in house beatsticks will be more survivable and do roughly the same damage as Nothing Beast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clement Posted August 21, 2013 Report Share Posted August 21, 2013 Is there some trick to having tara bury stuff I'm not seeing? Or is the only way for her to bury a friendly model to wail on it with her sword. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypoking Posted August 21, 2013 Report Share Posted August 21, 2013 Pull the Void. Its on her upgrades. Also, pinebox. can't go wrong with pinebox. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clement Posted August 21, 2013 Report Share Posted August 21, 2013 Pull the Void. Its on her upgrades. Also, pinebox. can't go wrong with pinebox. By the time pine box is around you've already paid for Dead of Winter. Knowledge of Eternity though I guess i just didn't see. So then I guess the strategy is to use Pull of the Void on a beater to give it fast AND bury it, then spring it like some kind of horrible jack in the box next turn. That would go really well with Eternal Moment, assuming you can keep landing initiative. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Math Mathonwy Posted August 21, 2013 Report Share Posted August 21, 2013 Another nice thing to do is to use a Belle or two to lure an enemy model near and then give all your guys plus that one enemy Fast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sevorin Posted August 21, 2013 Report Share Posted August 21, 2013 Decaying Aura on the Nothing Beast. Go eat Masters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malicte Posted August 21, 2013 Report Share Posted August 21, 2013 I've been running her as outcast so far for one primary reason. I like to bring two Marshals and two big hitters. The Nothing Beast is an obvious hitter #1. Right now I've been defaulting to Taelor as my second hitter, in part because my local meta is construct-heavy, but also because I prefer her to Bete. Once we see some of the bigger resser hitters in wave 2, like Rogue Necro, Izamu, Dead Rider, then I know I'll be switching over to using her as a resser. Since I consider Dead of Winter an auto include for Marshals, it's not a big deal to bring it for the rest of her crew anyways, and I think resser minions are better and more varied for her than outcasts currently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barnaberible Posted August 22, 2013 Report Share Posted August 22, 2013 Trouble is the glimpse the void trigger on accacks and pull of the void only allows you to bury if there is nothing else burried, meaning Bette can become a bit of a pain at times. Deffo think that pine box is the way to go, also belles and necropunks are good for objective. It seems that as an outcast she has better access to hitters suck as Taelor or Bishop (although both are Mercs) but for me Ressers have better objective grabber / manipulators with the Belles, dogs and necropunks. As Malicite says it will be interesting to see what wave 2 brings for the Ressers. ---------- Post added at 06:54 AM ---------- Previous post was at 06:49 AM ---------- Anyone tried taking the grave spirit in place of Karina? armour on the nothing beast sounds fun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malicte Posted August 22, 2013 Report Share Posted August 22, 2013 I haven't tried it yet, but I have found that Karina is usually the last part of the crew I include, or the first left out, so it's not a huge stretch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeleteAccount Posted August 22, 2013 Report Share Posted August 22, 2013 Really have a hard time wrapping my head around Karina, her whole deal seem pretty much based on screwing with buried enemy models, but since burying enemies is a lot harder than it seems, she ends up becoming a glorified gun, that her death marshal summon is so horribly hard to actually use, at least in a resser crew, doesn't help either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fetid Strumpet Posted August 22, 2013 Report Share Posted August 22, 2013 I see her more as a piece to help keep stuff buried via long forgotten magics. If something dies within her Long Forgotten Magic Aura she does what she needs to, and now it counts as sacrificed, so nothing un buries. But that said the most effective Tara lists relly don't care about burying an opponent, unless that bury is incidental, its a neat trick, but nothing something she actually tries to use much. The most effective lists I've seen capitalize on the fact that she can bury how own things, and then unbury them later and let them go right away. She basically functions as a different sort of dreamer. Bury something that is big and nasty, and then throw it at the opponent and let it activate right away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clement Posted August 22, 2013 Report Share Posted August 22, 2013 I see her more as a piece to help keep stuff buried via long forgotten magics. If something dies within her Long Forgotten Magic Aura she does what she needs to, and now it counts as sacrificed, so nothing un buries. That interaction never even occurred to me. Her upgrade suddenly makes sense! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AgentRock Posted August 22, 2013 Report Share Posted August 22, 2013 Who have people been using for objective work in the crew? Wretches? Or something from the ressers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malicte Posted August 22, 2013 Report Share Posted August 22, 2013 So far mostly wretches. Incorporeal means they are highly mobile plus means they can usually survive one hit. I'll take that for 4 stones. The free fast/slow attempt and bury shenanigans are just a bonus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barnaberible Posted August 22, 2013 Report Share Posted August 22, 2013 I can see wretches working, but still vulnerable to disengaging strikes. Necropunks are highly useful now you don't need a mask for leap, bit fragile though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mehter Posted August 22, 2013 Report Share Posted August 22, 2013 Wretches or dogs. They live about the same amount of time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malicte Posted August 22, 2013 Report Share Posted August 22, 2013 Another important distinction: dogs leave corpses. Wretches don't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fetid Strumpet Posted August 22, 2013 Report Share Posted August 22, 2013 Tara doesn't need corpses though. So it's only a question of whether or not her opponent needs them, and whether the dogs are worth enough of an investment to potentially give them to the opponent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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