Ludvig Posted August 12, 2017 Report Share Posted August 12, 2017 What's our most digusting HH list currently? Iwas thinking Judge with debt, Frank with debt and possibly hermanos, pistolero and wastrel. Francisco drags judge up. If you have a decent hand Judge does debt to the guild and cheats/stones masks for four "shots" turn 1 which should put a dent in some stuff. Turn 2 you start with Judge attaking and companioning into Franc who probably drops debt for somr nasty damage. Small dudes are there because their points fit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myyrä Posted August 12, 2017 Report Share Posted August 12, 2017 My vote goes to Ryle + Frank + whatever. Very few crews can hope to bring Ryle down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludvig Posted August 12, 2017 Author Report Share Posted August 12, 2017 9 minutes ago, Myyrä said: My vote goes to Ryle + Frank + whatever. Very few crews can hope to bring Ryle down. You're depending on nothing ignoring armor and Ryle getting tomes then? A guardian + hound then for more tomey goodness? Debt on Ryle instead of Hermanos on Francisco perhaps? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4thstringer Posted August 12, 2017 Report Share Posted August 12, 2017 I like the idea of phiona, dade, daschel (if summoning is allowed) +vengance bullet and a trap. But I might just be feeling a little crazy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludvig Posted August 12, 2017 Author Report Share Posted August 12, 2017 2 minutes ago, 4thstringer said: I like the idea of phiona, dade, daschel (if summoning is allowed) +vengance bullet and a trap. But I might just be feeling a little crazy. It isn't allowed so that kind of gimps it. Also don't own Phiona or Dade but you couldn't know that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4thstringer Posted August 12, 2017 Report Share Posted August 12, 2017 1 minute ago, Ludvig said: It isn't allowed so that kind of gimps it. Also don't own Phiona or Dade but you couldn't know that. I get not owning dade, but phiona? That's crazy talk. Need a pen is mightier box, ASAP. Ok how bout this? Ryle with debt, a guardian, nurse hb, and brutal eff. Ryles not going down with all that healing and the guardians buff. Nurse hb could be replaced by any number of 8 pt models. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludvig Posted August 12, 2017 Author Report Share Posted August 12, 2017 5 minutes ago, 4thstringer said: I get not owning dade, but phiona? That's crazy talk. Need a pen is mightier box, ASAP. Ok how bout this? Ryle with debt, a guardian, nurse hb, and brutal eff. Ryles not going down with all that healing and the guardians buff. Nurse hb could be replaced by any number of 8 pt models. You won't be able to kill much and end every game as a draw? A single hanged or that resser upgrade will screw you badly too. Don't have the starter either btw, I haven't kept up well past book two. Francisco instead of HB would probably make sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4thstringer Posted August 12, 2017 Report Share Posted August 12, 2017 4 minutes ago, Ludvig said: You won't be able to kill much and end every game as a draw? A single hanged or that resser upgrade will screw you badly too. Don't have the starter either btw, I haven't kept up well past book two. Francisco instead of HB would probably make sense. Hell, with franks buff and the guardian I throw them both in. Guardian doesnt do inconsequential damage either, so I think they would kill just fine. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myyrä Posted August 13, 2017 Report Share Posted August 13, 2017 20 hours ago, Ludvig said: You're depending on nothing ignoring armor and Ryle getting tomes then? A guardian + hound then for more tomey goodness? Debt on Ryle instead of Hermanos on Francisco perhaps? I'm depending also on soul stones, Franc and heals. It's not like the whole enemy team is going to ignore armor. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RustAndTheCity Posted August 13, 2017 Report Share Posted August 13, 2017 I played the judge, Francisco, executioner with ready to work, and a guild hound a few times. It was devestating. Lots of damage output. Switching in ryle instead of the judge or phiona for something might be even better. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RustAndTheCity Posted August 13, 2017 Report Share Posted August 13, 2017 Ryle Francisco executioner guild hound Or Ryle Francisco phiona brutal effigy Or Judge Francisco executioner guild hound Or Judge Francisco phiona guild hound Or Phiona Francisco executioner guild hound These are the combos I would like to try and I'll probably use one of them at my next henchman hardcore event. These lists are great at damage output and can overwhelm most crews. They struggle against more condition or WP attack style crews. Guild has so many great henchmen! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnomezilla Posted August 13, 2017 Report Share Posted August 13, 2017 30 minutes ago, RustAndTheCity said: Ryle Francisco executioner guild hound Or Ryle Francisco phiona brutal effigy Or Judge Francisco executioner guild hound Or Judge Francisco phiona guild hound Or Phiona Francisco executioner guild hound These are the combos I would like to try and I'll probably use one of them at my next henchman hardcore event. These lists are great at damage output and can overwhelm most crews. They struggle against more condition or WP attack style crews. Guild has so many great henchmen! I think you managed to miss the one permutation that would wring the most offense out of three out of four suits of high cards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FinalForm Posted August 14, 2017 Report Share Posted August 14, 2017 Judge+franc+mounted guard+stalker is a nice combo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikiwith Posted January 29, 2018 Report Share Posted January 29, 2018 I will play a Henchman Hardcore tournament on this month. What do you think about a list of Ryle + Francisco + the judge + a guild hound and you have a ss to spend in upgrades. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludvig Posted January 29, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 29, 2018 Think you have 2ss left because 8+7+3=18. Looks solid, plenty durable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figgydor Posted January 29, 2018 Report Share Posted January 29, 2018 I'm also playing a HH in a few weeks, but my only available henchmen are Sidir, Queeg and Dashel. Last month, I played a Sidir combo, which wasn't too bad, but as expected, there weren't any miracles. I don't see Queeg as being useful in HH, but I've seen a Dashel + riflemen list. Does he have any use in HH besides that? Is Sidir viable at all? I know these three are make the bottom of the Guild henchmen list, but are there options with them or should I just order Ryle and express paint him the night before? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludvig Posted January 29, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 29, 2018 7 minutes ago, Figgydor said: I'm also playing a HH in a few weeks, but my only available henchmen are Sidir, Queeg and Dashel. Last month, I played a Sidir combo, which wasn't too bad, but as expected, there weren't any miracles. I don't see Queeg as being useful in HH, but I've seen a Dashel + riflemen list. Does he have any use in HH besides that? Is Sidir viable at all? I know these three are make the bottom of the Guild henchmen list, but are there options with them or should I just order Ryle and express paint him the night before? There should be some merit to having hard to kill and a 6ss cache and using Queeg to shoot from the backlines. Slap on lead lined coat and Queeg isn't looking too shabby as a leader. Sadistic streak may let you disengage if you survive their first dedicated hit. You'd need a seriously killy crew to take out their leader though... Unless you can assassinate reliably you're going to have a hard time winning games and the tournament. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figgydor Posted January 29, 2018 Report Share Posted January 29, 2018 52 minutes ago, Ludvig said: hard to kill and a 6ss cache and using Queeg to shoot from the backlines good point. I just might not be so inclined to take Queeg as he tends to be relatively circumstantial and somewhat squishy, although I really like him and try to take him in 50ss games as often as I can. as far as killy models in the crew, an executioner usually fits that slot. I'll toy with other possibilities and see what I come up with Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Governor-General Posted January 30, 2018 Report Share Posted January 30, 2018 Honestly Dashel with Arrest Him (for the triggers) and Debt as leader, Queeg with Promises and LLC, and two Riflemen could really hurt some lists. They'd get eaten by others, of course, but they could really wreck some crews' day. And now that Dashel has a 5 stone cache, there's plenty of love there. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figgydor Posted January 30, 2018 Report Share Posted January 30, 2018 I'm not expecting a 100% win ratio here, just not to get completely decimated in every game the dashel -queeg-riflemen combo sounds good, I might try that, thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludvig Posted January 30, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 30, 2018 I've usually been pretty much stomped when I've done the Queeg Dashel rifle list. People tend to take a fast model like archie or something who can charge turn one and if they have armour your double riflemen are only doing 1pt of damage each if they even have time to set it up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnomezilla Posted January 30, 2018 Report Share Posted January 30, 2018 Definitely would have to deploy behind the close deployment line, but Dashel’s the sturdiest of the not-great model pool available. Also, Watch My Back exists, and might even be worthwhile here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludvig Posted January 30, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 30, 2018 You also need two models in the zone to score so if two of your models are standing far back you are setting yourself up to fail the strat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wizuriel Posted January 30, 2018 Report Share Posted January 30, 2018 Personally I enjoy Ryle + Expert Sleuth DMR 2x Death Marshals Use the DMR to make Ryle a marshal and just kill/box your opponents crew or Ryle + Expert Sleuth Francisco + Wade In Death Marshal Brutal Effigy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeadManTalking Posted January 31, 2018 Report Share Posted January 31, 2018 Went 4-0 at my last HH with Phiona, Franc, Jury, and a Reporter. The most points scored against me was 3 and that was only once and I scored full points for all except the last round where they ran their leader away the whole game so that one ended 4-1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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