Axelst Posted August 15, 2016 Report Share Posted August 15, 2016 TN 12, -1 from his aura and -2 to enemy tormented models, so effectively TN 15 for enemy tormented models, TN 13 for enemy non-tormented models and TN 12 for friendly models. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SinJ Posted August 15, 2016 Report Share Posted August 15, 2016 9 hours ago, Khoregard said: I am less satisfied with Hans being the recipient for the other upgrade, as I am perfectly content running him with scout the field and I pay better... I too thought that the Specialist would be more fitting for a bit of a hot fix, as I only ever seen people using it when they are trying out the starter box for VS. The Specialist is pretty decent with Jack Daw and Nurse/s or against scheme heavy crews. Return Fire could also be fairly decent on him as an Enforcer although not optimal as his Flammenwerfer is at range only. I'd say he's almost an auto include if you are taking more than one nurse with Daw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey_C Posted August 15, 2016 Report Share Posted August 15, 2016 On 8/10/2016 at 0:57 AM, clockworkspide said: I admit I was kinda hoping the Specialist would get something. Scramble and I Pay Better help a lot, but I'm not sure that I wouldn't rather take Lazarus sans upgrade under most circumstances. Until now there have been WAY more threads about people feeling Hans is under powered and that trappers are just better. Hasn't been much fussing about the specialist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperFly TNT Posted August 15, 2016 Report Share Posted August 15, 2016 The Enforcers were voted on during Nythera iirc? Hans has always been a sore spot for me and in need of a upgrade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patzer Posted August 21, 2016 Report Share Posted August 21, 2016 On 2016-08-10 at 2:43 AM, Rathnard said: I think Montressor will really find his place in Misaki crews. He can push Misaki up the board if needed (for 1 dg) but most importantly, he puts alot of pressure on the opponent's hand. That'll help alot with Misaki's Assassination trigger. Now this is interesting. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rathnard Posted August 21, 2016 Report Share Posted August 21, 2016 40 minutes ago, Patzer said: Now this is interesting. I've been playing 10-T Misaki alot this year. You eventually get to a point where you mostly value models according to how likely they are to encourage your opponent to cheat/discard their hand away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patzer Posted August 21, 2016 Report Share Posted August 21, 2016 30 minutes ago, Rathnard said: I've been playing 10-T Misaki alot this year. You eventually get to a point where you mostly value models according to how likely they are to encourage your opponent to cheat/discard their hand away. And I have played her Outcast counter part a lot this year. There aren't a ton of ways of getting cards out of your opponents hand in Outcast besides just attacking, but there are some. Summoned Aboms and Ashes and Dust are pretty good at this, and Trappers help a lot with their low Sh stat but multiple flips, to name a few. Monty might be cool to try out actually. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
admiralvorkraft Posted August 21, 2016 Report Share Posted August 21, 2016 Pride does a pretty decent job of pulling cards out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patzer Posted August 22, 2016 Report Share Posted August 22, 2016 On 2016-08-21 at 4:00 PM, admiralvorkraft said: Pride does a pretty decent job of pulling cards out. Yeah, but he dies so easily too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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