Four_N_Six Posted August 8, 2016 Report Share Posted August 8, 2016 So I've seen plenty of information on my new Gremlin stuff. I've seen a bit on the Will o' Wisps for us, but nothing on our spider (Bandersnatch, I hear?) or the undead wolf/bear things. Don't need a ton of information, just curious what the beasts are, if anyone has anything. My curiosity won't let me wait for my Gencon order. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Rathnard Posted August 8, 2016 Popular Post Report Share Posted August 8, 2016 I've not being playing 10-Thunders, but I do have a regular opponent who's pretty into the Neverborn stuff; The Rougaru is kind of like a Teddy-lite. A high cost melee minion with pounce and a few tricks for pushing models toward him with Wp duels. He's can also push or eat (& heal from) friendly scheme markers The Bandersnatch jumps inside models (ie. buries) and hits things from that model's shadow. He's not tough, but he's evasive with a nice attack and great triggers. I haven't looked too hard into Titania's crew. It's resilient bunch that does something something scheme markers something. What I do know is that my usual Neverborn player keeps muttering about Sorrows and how utterly brutal they are with her. As for upgrades, there's only one I want to talk about and that's Iggy's. Enraged Tantrum is perfectly named, because that was my exact reaction when I learnt about it. Honestly people. Iggy was already balls-out amazing, and it boggles my mind that so many considered him weak enough to warrant a new upgrade. As for what it does, the details are irrelevant. It basically encourages people to play Iggy wrong. So yeah, take it if you want. It's apparently what everyone asked for. :/ 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
necroon Posted August 8, 2016 Report Share Posted August 8, 2016 43 minutes ago, Rathnard said: As for upgrades, there's only one I want to talk about and that's Iggy's. Enraged Tantrum is perfectly named, because that was my exact reaction when I learnt about it. Honestly people. Iggy was already balls-out amazing, and it boggles my mind that so many considered him weak enough to warrant a new upgrade. As for what it does, the details are irrelevant. It basically encourages people to play Iggy wrong. So yeah, take it if you want. It's apparently what everyone asked for. :/ This a million times over..... 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bengt Posted August 8, 2016 Report Share Posted August 8, 2016 3 hours ago, Four_N_Six said: I've seen a bit on the Will o' Wisps for us So what's the deal with them? What station does the Bandersnatch have? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asrian Posted August 8, 2016 Report Share Posted August 8, 2016 1 hour ago, Bengt said: What station does the Bandersnatch have? Minion, also it's a nightmare so dreamer can summon it. If it buries (enters someone) and hits someone else, they get a return attack, so can enter your own guys, or the opponent's cause them to hit themselves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bengt Posted August 8, 2016 Report Share Posted August 8, 2016 How reliant on the bury thing is the Bandersnatch to be effective? Will it be a lame duck if your opponent happened to take Aianus (I can never remember how to spell his name, the beard muppet on the clock)? Is there a lot (or any) interactions with the Fae characteristic? It's not present in any of Titania's talents on her stat card... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clockwork_Fish Posted August 9, 2016 Report Share Posted August 9, 2016 I'm happy to see they gave poor Lelu an upgrade. Unlike Iggy, he kind of needed it. I miss fielding the twins outside of Dreamer crews. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eclipse Posted August 9, 2016 Report Share Posted August 9, 2016 Why the hell did they give Iggy a 'fix upgrade'? He never needed fixing in the first place, he was perfectly fluffy and playable as is. Was this due to another stupid less then well thought out by players vote? 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Posted August 9, 2016 Report Share Posted August 9, 2016 I'll probably not be taking the new upgrade very often since Depression is a thing in non-Voices Pandora crews. That said, I can see why the public insisted upon an upgrade for him. Iggy's mighty 1-2 Burning per AP is extremely situational and most times can safely be ignored. Yes, Incite can be situationally fantastic, particularly if you're in a Misery-stacking crew or have multiple applications of Incite so you can really control the opponent's activation. Most times, a single Mood Swings is a bit annoying but not that bothersome. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Four_N_Six Posted August 9, 2016 Author Report Share Posted August 9, 2016 6 hours ago, Eclipse said: Why the hell did they give Iggy a 'fix upgrade'? He never needed fixing in the first place, he was perfectly fluffy and playable as is. Was this due to another stupid less then well thought out by players vote? I do remember a player vote going in a direction I didn't totally agree with, but personal opinions and play styles, whatever. Who cares if the sorrows didn't get a boost? At least Iggy did 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eclipse Posted August 9, 2016 Report Share Posted August 9, 2016 4 minutes ago, Four_N_Six said: I do remember a player vote going in a direction I didn't totally agree with, but personal opinions and play styles, whatever. Who cares if the sorrows didn't get a boost? At least Iggy did If the Sorrows had been boosted I would've danced nak*d in the woods. Well, not really. But I would've wanted to. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twg Posted August 9, 2016 Report Share Posted August 9, 2016 I think Sorrows needed it far more than Iggy did. I am happy that Lelu got an upgrade as he really was never used outside of a dreamer summoning crew. I don't think it went too far and balances him nicely with his sister. I look forward to trying him out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rathnard Posted August 10, 2016 Report Share Posted August 10, 2016 13 hours ago, Kirby said: Most times, a single Mood Swings is a bit annoying but not that bothersome. Oh man. You have no idea. If you put Mood Swing on an unimportant model who's already activated then you can force that model to activate first in the next turn. It basically guarantees that you'll win initative where it counts. Hell, people spend more on the doppelganger to do the same thing. As for sorrows, i don't see why people dislike them so much. They can throw out paralyze, and in a crew full of Wp-based duels they'll massively ramp up the damage output. You don't have to take three, but even 1-2 have a place. For what it's worth, Sorrows are great in a crew like Titania's. ;) 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
necroon Posted August 10, 2016 Report Share Posted August 10, 2016 On 8/8/2016 at 4:03 AM, Bengt said: How reliant on the bury thing is the Bandersnatch to be effective? Will it be a lame duck if your opponent happened to take Aianus (I can never remember how to spell his name, the beard muppet on the clock)? I'd say "fairly to moderately". It's not an expensive model though, mind you. The thing is amazingly fun looking: can't wait to get it on the table....And then off the table.... hehehe. 15 minutes ago, Rathnard said: Oh man. You have no idea. If you put Mood Swing on an unimportant model who's already activated then you can force that model to activate first in the next turn. It basically guarantees that you'll win initative where it counts. Hell, people spend more on the doppelganger to do the same thing. Yeah this is really overlooked. Plus Iggy is amazing at countering Frame for Murder. Oh that obvious F4M target? Yeah... Burning 6. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lordgimpet Posted August 10, 2016 Report Share Posted August 10, 2016 54 minutes ago, Twg said: I think Sorrows needed it far more than Iggy did. I am happy that Lelu got an upgrade as he really was never used outside of a dreamer summoning crew. I don't think it went too far and balances him nicely with his sister. I look forward to trying him out. Neither sorrows or Iggy need any upgrade, I mean sorrows do have one called depression. I feel both models require a little more finesse to get the most out of the models that many seem willing to do, And with the amount of wp duels a fae crew can generate, I believe as more grasp how they work and get the most out of them without getting them removed easily. You will see more and more on the table more often Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lordgimpet Posted August 10, 2016 Report Share Posted August 10, 2016 The bandersnatch is a ton of fun, the more you think outside of the box with it the more use you will get, I mean the shenanigans with a bandersnatch and 2 rogarou making the most our of thier pounce, Or from a game I had against Misaki, where it jumped inside Misaki, attacked Yamaziko, who thought Misaki attacked her and hit Misaki back killing her... Priceless. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Posted August 10, 2016 Report Share Posted August 10, 2016 13 hours ago, Rathnard said: If you put Mood Swing on an unimportant model who's already activated then you can force that model to activate first in the next turn. It basically guarantees that you'll win initative where it counts. Hell, people spend more on the doppelganger to do the same thing. Let's be fair, it's not like cheating initiative is the only thing a Doppelganger gives you. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asrian Posted August 10, 2016 Report Share Posted August 10, 2016 5 minutes ago, Kirby said: Let's be fair, it's not like cheating initiative is the only thing a Doppelganger gives you. True. She gives me the personal satisfaction of ensuring my opponents hatred. ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Posted August 10, 2016 Report Share Posted August 10, 2016 Ha! Ain't that the truth! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clockwork_Fish Posted August 10, 2016 Report Share Posted August 10, 2016 21 hours ago, Rathnard said: Oh man. You have no idea. If you put Mood Swing on an unimportant model who's already activated then you can force that model to activate first in the next turn. It basically guarantees that you'll win initative where it counts. Hell, people spend more on the doppelganger to do the same thing. Ask a Guild player what they think of you putting Mood Swing on Francisco when there's nobody within 3" of him. Try not to ask while you're within arms reach. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlippingWeak Posted August 13, 2016 Report Share Posted August 13, 2016 Where can I see the Neverborn line up? So I can see the awesome models you guys are discussing!!! ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Warlock Posted August 13, 2016 Report Share Posted August 13, 2016 53 minutes ago, FlippingWeak said: Where can I see the Neverborn line up? So I can see the awesome models you guys are discussing!!! ? Here ya go There's also a Malifaux musing for the Neverborn though I can't remember the link. Sorta glanced over it, but apparently only the will-o-wisps (glowy bum skull fairies) aren't fae 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlippingWeak Posted August 13, 2016 Report Share Posted August 13, 2016 15 minutes ago, The Warlock said: Here ya go There's also a Malifaux musing for the Neverborn though I can't remember the link. Sorta glanced over it, but apparently only the will-o-wisps (glowy bum skull fairies) aren't fae Thank you so much!! Just couldn't fun this!!! Saw all the other ones!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clockworkspide Posted August 13, 2016 Report Share Posted August 13, 2016 I still wish that human dude was a crazy prospector Mimic model and not part of the Bandersnatch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cinnamon Bear Posted August 13, 2016 Report Share Posted August 13, 2016 I am happy to take any unwanted grizzled prospectors people might end up with. I get what they were going for- it hides in people's shadows, so the model ought to show that/tell a story. I kind of like it, but on the other hand I know I really dislike the Wendigo model because it kind of breaks up the visual theme of the rest of the crew. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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