TheLostOne Posted August 8, 2015 Report Share Posted August 8, 2015 I really like killjoy and I'm trying to find a reason to pay the 13ss for the meatbag with jack daw but I can't find anything that they actually do for each other Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mach_5 Posted August 8, 2015 Report Share Posted August 8, 2015 Killjoy kills stuff, that's useful in just about any crew. If you enjoy using him, why not with Daw? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLostOne Posted August 8, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 8, 2015 Yeah true enough. I tend to get stuck on his point cost. I generally like to stay at 8ss or under which is why montressor never sees the table Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erorior Posted August 8, 2015 Report Share Posted August 8, 2015 While Killjoy is probably most effective with Tara (due to her being able to sling him across the field with abandon without the requirement of the death of your own models), I'm sure that there are ways that Killjoy can benefit from hanging out with our favourite, albeit twitchy, hanged man. Most synergies with Daw tend to land around having them Tormented, and Killjoy could benefit from those synergies. For example, with Writhing Torment he could be pushed out from an ongoing engagement to be able to use his 1AP-charge (against another target or perhaps against the same enemy he was engaged with) or he could hit someone an extra time or take a crucial walk via Twist and Turn. And Jack himself could borrow his Cleaver from time to time. The problem with Killjoy and Jack is that Killjoy himself can be quite a hazard and therefore begins buried, and before he unburies he cannot receive the Tormented characteristic. It's not entirely possible to control the opportunities of unburying the big stick, so you would want to have a guilty standing by to make him tormented when this happens. But if you manage to torment him, he becomes as synergistic with Daw as most other beatsticks. Let's not forget though, that Killjoy can be quite killy enough without synergies. To sum it up; he as synergy-potential, albeit a more tricky one to utilize. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freman Posted August 8, 2015 Report Share Posted August 8, 2015 Killjoy makes things dead. Jack Daw likes dead things. It's entirely natural for them to be together. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the proxy union Posted August 8, 2015 Report Share Posted August 8, 2015 The real question to ask is: is there any reason not to take him? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zFiend Posted August 9, 2015 Report Share Posted August 9, 2015 The real question to ask is: is there any reason not to take him? He costs a lot and only takes part in killing stuff, he goes down quite fast and he isn't probably going to be scheme markering around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirial Posted August 9, 2015 Report Share Posted August 9, 2015 Killjoy doesn't really have "synergy" with anyone. Tell that to Tara and Molly. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirial Posted August 9, 2015 Report Share Posted August 9, 2015 That's why I used quotation marks He's on my Black Friday list of overdue things to pick up. I am seriously lacking "fat guy" in my collection Ooh, he's going in the fat bastards list! Hear that, Fiend? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zFiend Posted August 9, 2015 Report Share Posted August 9, 2015 Ooh, he's going in the fat bastards list! Hear that, Fiend? Damn it! Seriously? That list is too crowded! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daniello_s Posted August 9, 2015 Report Share Posted August 9, 2015 So far I have tested 'fat guy' with: Viks, Levy and Tara. With Viks he was quite OK as when Blood killed something at the bottom of turn, he pop out and continue the slaughter. That also relieve some pressure from Blood as over the sudden opponent has 2 beatsticks at his face at the start of the next turn. With Levy I had him once and he was performing not bad especially since Levy can kill enemy model easily dropping Killjoy after but I think he is a waste of space in Levy's crew. With Tara he is well known to perform at his best. Still I need to check him with Jack Daw although I don't really see him in this crew. If I need a beatstick there I would rather choose something from Strongarm/Bishop/Desolation Engine/Taelor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zFiend Posted August 9, 2015 Report Share Posted August 9, 2015 Daniello_s you cheater. Killjoy comes from friendly models. Not from Blood kills. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonahmaul Posted August 9, 2015 Report Share Posted August 9, 2015 What zFiend said! However, putting a Vik of Blood in somebody's face then saying go on kill her, you'll get a Killjoy for your effort is always fun and a fairly daunting prospect. Killjoy always works well when you have to kill stuff. Killing stuff scores VPs in plenty of schemes (plus Reckoning) and dead stuff can't drop scheme markers etc. which is always good! I think the only time I'd never consider including him is when Murder Protoge is in the list because he is going to be your costliest model generally and he does go down fairly easily. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daniello_s Posted August 9, 2015 Report Share Posted August 9, 2015 What zFiend said! However, putting a Vik of Blood in somebody's face then saying go on kill her, you'll get a Killjoy for your effort is always fun and a fairly daunting prospect. I think this is exactly what happened as I don't recall Pokey and Killjoy the same time on the table. Besides that was one of my first games in Malifaux so who cares Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zFiend Posted August 9, 2015 Report Share Posted August 9, 2015 I think this is exactly what happened as I don't recall Pokey and Killjoy the same time on the table. Besides that was one of my first games in Malifaux so who cares Of course it is Mr. Cheaty Cheatersson. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zFiend Posted August 9, 2015 Report Share Posted August 9, 2015 He is a great candidate for that scheme. Either your opponent deals with him (usually takes a master / hench) or he just rips apart the opposing crew. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonahmaul Posted August 9, 2015 Report Share Posted August 9, 2015 Yep, any big guys are great for Frame for Murder. Give up 3VPs or let Killjoy, Teddy, Howard etc. run riot! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moxypoo Posted August 17, 2015 Report Share Posted August 17, 2015 A little unfluffy, but Jack Daw can take Nix with Infectious Melodies and a Malifaux Rat. The Rat gains Fast at the beginning of its activation, runs 15" up the board, and then sacrifices itself to pop out Killjoy. Nix hiself isn't bad with Jack either since he provides lots of nice area control and can be a passable scheme runner with Incorporeal. It's a tactic that all Outcasts can have fun with! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freman Posted August 18, 2015 Report Share Posted August 18, 2015 I do like Nix. His story is appropriately tragic for Malifaux. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticPangolin Posted August 18, 2015 Report Share Posted August 18, 2015 Yeah... loyal to a fault. Not his fault that his human was a giant douche. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zFiend Posted August 18, 2015 Report Share Posted August 18, 2015 A little unfluffy, but Jack Daw can take Nix with Infectious Melodies and a Malifaux Rat. The Rat gains Fast at the beginning of its activation, runs 15" up the board, and then sacrifices itself to pop out Killjoy. Nix hiself isn't bad with Jack either since he provides lots of nice area control and can be a passable scheme runner with Incorporeal. It's a tactic that all Outcasts can have fun with! Hm.. That actually sounds like fun! Oh the Kill Joy delivery systems in this game seems quite endless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moxypoo Posted August 18, 2015 Report Share Posted August 18, 2015 Hm.. That actually sounds like fun! Oh the Kill Joy delivery systems in this game seems quite endless. Just be sure to yell Surprise (expletive deleted)! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zFiend Posted August 18, 2015 Report Share Posted August 18, 2015 Just be sure to yell Surprise (expletive deleted)! I think Killjoy should be just made onto a base with a led lighted board saying "Surprise" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtomicKeen Posted August 30, 2015 Report Share Posted August 30, 2015 I like Killjoy because he gives my opponent a big something to worry about, but every time i take him I always end up with a dead Killjoy who didn't really do that much and maybe killed one or two things…I think Ama No Zako is far better with Jack than Killjoy is anyhow. Extra obey like action, no killing your own crew, a devour action to take advantage of paralyzed models from your horror duels... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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