Henchmen upgrades : Resurectionist

[Sliver Chocobo]

What unquie minions do you want to get upgrade to henchmen and why. Poll to come

[Da Big Baws]

I think the only one that has a slight chance is Sybelle and even then, she has even less character than Molly.

All the sidekicks, bar Molly, don't show the backbone to be leaders.

Betê Noire could be IF and only IF she is given a fiction based reason. Too much of her is unknown.

[Sliver Chocobo]

I think the only one that has a slight chance is Sybelle and even then, she has even less character than Molly.

All the sidekicks, bar Molly, don't show the backbone to be leaders.

The Ikiryro comes very close, I can see it gaining more and more power until it can exist with Kira summoning her.

Sebastian's fluff pretty make him more than he apears

I would like Mortimer to go up in world same as Sybelle, Bête is interesting, more fluff on her is needed also her pic on the back of Twisting fates, Foreshadowing?

[ThePandaDirector]

Bete Noire and Sebastian. Bete would be similar to Ikyro (who is already kinda master/avatar) only she would likely have more synergy with Crooligans, hit and run spirits, etc, than Kirai's. Sebastian could be like a Nurse henchman, able to buff undead constructs better than McMourning.

[Sandwich]

No way should Bete Noir be upgraded.

She's perfect where she is.

There's the mystique enough to make her story intriguing without revealing too much.

[SoulG]

Sebastian, Mortimer, Datsu-Ba.

This gives each Ressurectionist Master a thematically linked Henchmen. Sebastian and Mortimer have both, IMO, been given enough personality to warrant Henchmen status--especially Sebastian (after book 3).

Datsu-Ba, I admit, is largely because it's the closest thing Kirai has to someone like that. Although, I could also see Ubume for her Henchman.

I, notably, feel that Bete Noir should -not- get an upgrade to Henchmen since it takes away from her thematic. The only way I could see it work would be if you had a swarm of cheap "Innocent" models that are basically objective grabbers, and they place better models (in theme with Bete / Kirai) when they die. Perhaps do it Dreamer-style where the whole crew starts off the table, and each one is linked to a "Malifaux Citizen," and they are brought in when it dies.

Edited November 24, 2011 by SoulG

[Sandwich]

I'm full on behind Sebastian being a Henchmen.

He's just such a boss through the entire book.

[fritz the cat]

I think sebastian and/or mortermer would be pretty sweet henchman, they each kinda fill a respective niche in thier masters fluff

[Ratty]

I think Datsu-ba has the most actual chance of being a Henchman, though we have not heard much about her. She seems to be an Shinigami, Death Spirit so probably has been around a long long time and has her own reasons to be following Kirai. Unlike Sebastian who though clever is really tied up looking after McMourning. I can't see Sybelle being a Henchman, Molly is the only Belle that has shown any sign of self-consciousness.

[Q'iq'el]

I see some potential in Rafkin, Sebastian and Mortimer. All 3 have already been described as assistants to Masters and there are areas where they could introduce some original twist on Resurrectionists theme.

Sybelle, just like all the other Seamus work is faulty - she doesn't have her own peronality. Seriously, Molly's the only woman Seamus ever had any luck with and she has already ditched him for other Rezzers.

Some of the propositions, IMHO, shouldn't even be on the list:

Ikiriyo - it's Kirai's own living spirit. It is not independent but rather projected by her outside her body. In game she may be "summoning" it, but that's just mechanic. It is not separable from Kirai.

Dead Rider - Riders are already defined to be something else than Henchmen and more than minions.

Bête Noire to me is too much of an outsider - a spirit drawn to the faction (what it does), but appearing and disappearing out of her own free will. A cool minion to use, but not connected enough for a Henchman. But that's subjective.

[Sliver Chocobo]

@Q'iq'el i put all of the unique resser on the list, I know some don't have a chance

Although i would like Ikiriyo as a henchman, it's been getting more powerful and isn't listening to Kiria as often

[Q'iq'el]

You are missing the point.

Ikiryo isn't something not listening to her. It is her. That's what the word means - it is her vengeful will manifesting itself. Her spirit leaving her body to kill her enemies. It may be doing things she wouldn't consciously condone or even want, but it can never become a separate being.

It is what her ghost will be once she dies, to put it another way around.

[Sliver Chocobo]

Or that's what we think, it was first summoned after Kirai put on the gorgons ring, coincidence?

But then again It might be a coincidence

[Q'iq'el]

It's what the word "Ikiryo" itself means.

The ring may be something which activated or amplified her latent powers, but I don't think the fluff is going to go against the meaning of the words here, especially as the designers seem to have spent considerable time researching the background used as inspiration for her crew.

Obviously one can always create a cat with mouse's head and say it's what Minotaurs look like in his game, but what for?

[fritz the cat]

I was just thinking, just as interesting as thinking about who could be upgraded to a henchman, what about what kinds of special forces that could go along with them?

with datsue-ba playing with the death spirit background; could have a bunch of really cool spirits, I was thinking unforgiven souls or something. Maybe the spirits of convicts and criminals trapped on malifaux because of their deeds in life

[Inquisitor Wall]

I would say Sebastian or Mortimer. Both have shown that they are more than they seem, and after spending so much time with their respective masters, Im sure they have picked up a thing or two. My only question would be how to put them into a different role than that of their respective masters.

[micahwc]

I want to see the cute rogue necromancy with the sickly rams head made into a henchman.

[Issalbotproto]

Sebby would be cool, But I think Rafkin would be a great option he already acts like a sort of freelance worker between Mcmourning and Nico, it would only make sense for him to break beyond that and start plying his raising/creating powers into some interesting monstrosities

[poulpox]

I think Rafkin has a good potential for some twisted improvement. Morti and Seb too in a different fashion

[Haystacks]

I don't think we need one. Instead just some more horrors and go from there. Mortimer could go that way. But I don't see the point. Molly is the only one who has gone and made a niche(?) for her self. Mort is the other but he would be too similier to Nico.

Maybe a henchman that CAN'T summon? and has a high henchman#.

Ressers seam to be a faction that would benefit from a new player, a new character rather than upgrading some one.

[Sandwich]

If we get a new Resurrectionist henchman, it has to be able to summon, that's just the staple of the faction.

I could for sure get behind Sebastian, especially because he wouldn't need a new special forces, considering McM made the Rogue Necromancy.

Mortimer would need a new thematic Special Forces, and Madame Sybelle is just too set already as a mindless zombie mistress.

And Seamus already has his fluff Henchman.

[Dorian]

I voted Bette & Rafkin.

Bette: Shes very mysterious so they can fill in a bunch of info to make her a henchman. Plus I like the feel of a stealthy slippery murder machine crew thats a bit frail. Kind of like a resser version of Colletes crew but more killy less dancy.

Rafkin: Again he's not fully fleshes out so hes very open ended. But I see him as a recycling list. Something dies & he can bring it back as something less because he isn't as skilled as the main ressers. (Flesh construct >>> Punk >>> Autopsy >>> Mindless) I mean this shouldn't be easy / automatic but maybe for every undead model that dies within 6" of him he flips a fate card (Maybe non-cheatable?). If its a 11-13 he recycles it into ____. Obviously this is just a very rough outline

[hippieshopper]

Bette seems more like a mercenary in a sense, she's like Jack Daw or Killjoy.

and Rafkin just came out.

I agree it should be Sebs for a lot of reasons;

He's been there awhile, he wouldn't need very many new models (if at all)

he could use some love

and fluff wise, he's a helluva lot smarter than he lets on

[ModollerMorgan]

I myself would like to see Datsue-Ba be a henchmen. She could lead a group of evil souls to fight for redemption and make soulstones to boost her/ minion's combat prowess. Her lantern is fueled by souls deemed bad why not bring out those souls out to fight for her? Also has not been stated why Datsue-Ba helps Kirai in the first place.

[Wolfgar]

Mortimer and Sebastien make sense to me.

Bete Noire is too much of a loner, and Sybelle is too much of an idiot.