Gollum528 Posted June 26, 2011 Report Share Posted June 26, 2011 I know that a lot of this depends on how you play, who you bring with them, your strategies, and who you're playing against but overall, who do you think the best Master is in Malifaux?? My favorite is easily Sonnia but I've never lost using Hoffman or Pandora (though I have easily dispatched both). My toughest fights have always been the dreamer and Ophelia. Overall who do you think wins most and who is the toughest to beat and why?? I'm sorry if this is a repeat post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iamwyrd Posted June 26, 2011 Report Share Posted June 26, 2011 Many people will say Hamelin is the best, and I can agree on some levels. But when it comes to best in my terms, they must be fun to play and good, so I will chock a vote for Colette and her beautiful babes. Lol But just straight game terms as it stands, hamelin is. IMHO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Alleycat Posted June 26, 2011 Report Share Posted June 26, 2011 In my opinion,though I cant seem to make her work well,Perdita is one of the strongest contenders for best Master IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ukrocky Posted June 26, 2011 Report Share Posted June 26, 2011 Who is the best malifaux master? Me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mergoth Posted June 26, 2011 Report Share Posted June 26, 2011 Pandora - when I use her. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stern Posted June 26, 2011 Report Share Posted June 26, 2011 Me. Thought it were any master who takes guild hounds :-P no seriously... I hear marcus is a good master to go for with his large variety of minions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dumb Luck Posted June 27, 2011 Report Share Posted June 27, 2011 *points at sig* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stern Posted June 27, 2011 Report Share Posted June 27, 2011 *points at sig* even your avatar and title 'hog boss' give it away! :-D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Math Mathonwy Posted June 27, 2011 Report Share Posted June 27, 2011 From game strength perspective, Hamelin is currently the top dog. The other first tier Masters are Colette, Dreamer, Pandora, and Zoraida with Perdita, Kirai and someone I'm blanking on at the moment hot on the heels. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornelious1424 Posted June 27, 2011 Report Share Posted June 27, 2011 From my personal experience, Perdita is brutal. She doesn't need minions around her to make her effective, like other "top tier" masters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gollum528 Posted June 27, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 27, 2011 So, in general it sounds like you guys think Perdita is more of a threat than the dreamer?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koali Posted June 27, 2011 Report Share Posted June 27, 2011 Jep Play the Dreamer without Alps and you have a good and Solid game... Play perdita without her best minions and she will still rip you off... = But i argee the most annoying Master ist Hamelin... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigmike Posted June 27, 2011 Report Share Posted June 27, 2011 Putting Hamelin aside (Because look up just about any Hamelin thread and its non stop Rage of OP rants) I think your looking at LCB, Colette,and Levi, are a few of the top dogs, though most mentioned by others are mentioned for a very good reason, they are awesome as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ukrocky Posted June 27, 2011 Report Share Posted June 27, 2011 Levi?!? :| And I wouldn't say Collette is top, I'd say she's good, yes, but not top. My top masters would have to be; - Pandora - Hamelin - Chompy (Probably in that order too) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sliver Chocobo Posted June 27, 2011 Report Share Posted June 27, 2011 without minion's Perditia or Lilith Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karn987 Posted June 27, 2011 Report Share Posted June 27, 2011 (edited) The best Master is the one you mix the best with truthfully. Otherwise it's simply far to subjective a question. If you mean best as in the most powerful killing wise? It's up for argument. If you mean best as in the most versatile for objectives? It's up for argument again. It all boils down to how you play the game and how that interacts with each Master. Reading threads like this does have value, especially if you follow peoples posts on the forum and do some digging into them. It's often interesting to see how responses to questions like this match up to a persons online persona and their thoughts on tactics etc. So my answer? Whatever Master I put down on the table is the Best Master in my opinion. Be it Pandora, Lilith, Levy, McMourning, Marcus, Ramos, Kaeris, VonSchill etc. Whatever I pull out and set down is the best Master (IMO) at that moment because it is the one I'm putting myself behind. Edited June 27, 2011 by karn987 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Math Mathonwy Posted June 27, 2011 Report Share Posted June 27, 2011 (Because look up just about any Hamelin thread and its non stop Rage of OP rants) Nice! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CannonFodder Posted June 27, 2011 Report Share Posted June 27, 2011 I think the top Tier are a case of Paper/Rock/Scissors. The top tier played well will beat rest if played properly. I see Hamelin as being great, but Colette disappearing act on rat catchers force him to clump, then as turn 6 approaches needs to speard to thin and killed. Colettes crew can run, but LCB or Lilith have enough mobility and high enough attack to take her out. But Hamelins crew if played right will outlast LCB or Lilith. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigmike Posted June 27, 2011 Report Share Posted June 27, 2011 I have to agree with karn.I know Seamus isn't the "best" master in the game but i can win with him pretty consistently. Each master has strengths and weaknesses, the scenario matters too. Rethinking about the question i have to say i have changed my mind, in siding with karn i have to say what i say to all people i get into this game. The best master is the one you like the fluff for, because even when you lose you will enjoy playing the game because you love the master. :peace: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Alleycat Posted June 27, 2011 Report Share Posted June 27, 2011 Though If i were to say,what is the top tier masters for me? Seamus and Sonnia. Assuming equal luck on card draws,I can answer most problems in the game with one of those two masters.I say most,only because my experiences with Hamelin have unfortunately been theorycrafting.But Sybelle,several belles,two punk zombies and a hanged can put a severe crimp in Hamelins abilities. The Hanged being able to generate win wp duels or fall back(note,not a morale duel,just a wp duel or you run away) pretty much at will,combined with the ability to give certain key models -flip to wp duels means that even masters will lose a WP duel eventually. The ability to pull the ratcatchers or Nix far from their swarms and tear them apart will also make matters easier.The punk zombies ability to walk up and slice&dice the swarms finish the job. The large amounts of terrifying that the army has will make it harder for Hamelin to get to grips with the army. With Sonnia,it would probably involve some creative abuse of Cordon,combined with Flame Walls and a Governor's proxy for the second set of flame walls,and just play a rousing game of "you dont get to move past this point" Not to mention the raw hilarity of a guaranteed two VP from the Subjugate scheme.The Guardsman cordoning mean that Holdout and bodyguard both are quite likely. So your halfway to a win without doing very much actual damage to them. Not counting the sheer raw hilarity of the Stalker bombs exploding constantly.Wow...got a bit off topic there but anyways. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hookers Posted June 27, 2011 Report Share Posted June 27, 2011 who's got two thumbs and beats on people with a magical shillelagh? this guy :marcus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osoi Posted June 27, 2011 Report Share Posted June 27, 2011 It really comes down to the Master you know best. Sure some do better against others but at the end of the day the game is so varied as to what your objectives are that each master approaches those objectives differently, some really excel at denial, some manipulation, other board control, other for sheer hitting power but you will need a little bit of all of this to consistently win games. For me Seamus is 'my' best master because I started playing Malifaux with him and am extremely familiar with how he works and what his weaknesses are and how to get around them, the familiar you are with a given master the more powerful they will become in your hands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldenjester Posted June 28, 2011 Report Share Posted June 28, 2011 Fanboy time! Sonnia. I mean, she'll straight up Violate you to win. In all seriousness, it is dependent on who you know best. I won't repeat the same arguments everyone else has made, as that would be redundant. I've looked at some of these 'top tier' masters, and honestly, I've been a bit unimpressed. There is no one "instant win" master (well, besides pre-fix Hamelin instant win button). Any master can be epic or terrible. It all depends. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bellygrub Posted June 28, 2011 Report Share Posted June 28, 2011 Jones. Ok so maybe he's not the best but for me he's the most fun. That's gotta count for at least 50% right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sephiroa Posted June 28, 2011 Report Share Posted June 28, 2011 it realy depends on how you play your master, some say rasputina is strong but can go down very easily when facing LCB or lilith. but i love playing with a master that isn't of the top, you will never see me play with LCB or pandora or hamelin, because winning with them is "easier" then winning with another master. i like the challange Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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