Steelwhip Posted December 28, 2010 Report Share Posted December 28, 2010 happened last week. we have a decent ammount of Malifaux players at our store..4-6 at any one time on our monday gaming and we managed to catch a couple of the guys cheating recentley how does one cheat at malifaux you may ask...it seems they had purchased several decks and had literally taken out all the low cards and stacked them with high cards. It was only with a sharp eyed player that noticed one of the guys layed down 2 cards that were both 12 of crows did anyone pick up on what they were doing and after checking thier decks and finding out what they had done were they asked to leave it disheartens me that people would go to these lengths to cheat at a game...but there you have it just a worde of caution to people out there that people do literally "stack the deck' in thier favor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hjelmen Posted December 28, 2010 Report Share Posted December 28, 2010 That really is pathetic. I guess you lucked out that one of the cheaters is such a leprous retard that he forgot that he was cheating, and played two of the same card. What a muppet! Good riddance to bad rubbish, but terrible that you guys should have to experience this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxXhayzelXxx Posted December 28, 2010 Report Share Posted December 28, 2010 this makes me very very sad. Can i ask, what is the point in playing a game when you have rigged it to win?! Dont like these people at all! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sliver Chocobo Posted December 28, 2010 Report Share Posted December 28, 2010 I agree We should feed them to killjoy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DireTrollJake Posted December 28, 2010 Report Share Posted December 28, 2010 Agreed, why bother playing if you auto win? I caught a local stacking his deck on more than one occasion, as in shuffeling, looking at the card, reshuffleing, putting a high card on top, etc. I didn't make a big scene because he was younger but I did rub his nose in it when I won. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustAnotherDummy Posted December 28, 2010 Report Share Posted December 28, 2010 I wonder if it's going to come to the point where tourneys have to supply the decks to participants in order to assure fair play. I hope not, but this kind of story makes me think it could happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxXhayzelXxx Posted December 28, 2010 Report Share Posted December 28, 2010 Good on you! the little ejiit deserves to be a plaything for teddy... grrr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathan Caroland Posted December 28, 2010 Report Share Posted December 28, 2010 Bit sad that. Easiest thing to do is before each game, hand over your deck to your opponent for a quick flip through in a gentlemanly fashion and if done without malice, no one should be the least bit upset about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxXhayzelXxx Posted December 28, 2010 Report Share Posted December 28, 2010 You see, when i play with my shadow men, its all dandy, however they do tend to try and peek behind me when im concentrating... Naughty Shadow Men... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sliver Chocobo Posted December 28, 2010 Report Share Posted December 28, 2010 I only cheat when I'm playing against fate, but I think the rules say I'm allowed to cheat fate:D Sorry about the bad pun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonas Albrecht Posted December 28, 2010 Report Share Posted December 28, 2010 The unfortunate side of deck based mechanics. I am have no intention of implementing deck checking until cheating starts, but during tournaments, I think we'll have a judge review all decks before the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ItchyDani3l Posted December 28, 2010 Report Share Posted December 28, 2010 They must have been really dedicated to cheating if they had bought 2 decks of the same color... (statistically, they only would have needed to buy 2 decks, and they could replace all of the 1-6 cards with 13-8 cards.) This reminds me of one game I played where I SWEAR TO GOD I had lost my Red Joker, because I didn't flip/draw the damnable thing once in the entire game (not even for initiative). I looked through my deck at the end of the game and it was at the very bottom of the deck... makes me wonder if it was there all game >.< Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mach_5 Posted December 28, 2010 Report Share Posted December 28, 2010 "Lies make baby Jesus cry." ―Todd Flanders Even with dice games people have been caught bringing in weighted dice to increase their chances of success. I know of one large (40-50ish players) tournament where one player brought a 40k army that was a 300-400 points over the 1750pt limit, without a list, and claimed ignorance when he was finally busted in the last round (at the head table of course). I think it's sad that some people seem to enjoy going to these lengths despite the hollow victory they will earn in doing so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxXhayzelXxx Posted December 28, 2010 Report Share Posted December 28, 2010 I remember cheating at Monopoly when i was 5, I was the banker, and i took some money to buy a house. Anyway, my mum caught me in the act and told me santa wouldnt come to bad girls. I cried for a week afterwards thinking that santa wouldnt come to me. never again will i cheat at any game ever. (i love santa too much) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oozeboss Posted December 28, 2010 Report Share Posted December 28, 2010 When it is all boiled down to its basic context, what we have is a game of pretty pewter miniatures, played on wonderful terrain of the imagination, and utterly subject to the mercurial whims of Fate. Winning such a game is no testament to any degree of pure skill (as is chess), nor social significance. Anybody so utterly focused on winning these games that they'd go to any great lengths qualify immediately as Very Sad Gits! :bitchslap :nutkick: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyrrn Posted December 28, 2010 Report Share Posted December 28, 2010 Totally agree with you, oozeboss ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeyclops Posted December 28, 2010 Report Share Posted December 28, 2010 Sad, very very sad... Of course, even doing a deck check before a game won't avoid all forms of cheating. Some people can do some very nifty slieght of hand tricks when shuffling a deck. It's sad, but people do cheat and in any sort of game someone who wants to cheat can find a way to do it. Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice... won't happen cause after the 1st time I kicked you in the nuts and don't play with you anymore. Like Poker, when Malifaux is on ESPN we'll have to have a dealer at each table Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricJ Posted December 28, 2010 Report Share Posted December 28, 2010 at least it's easier to catch a player with a loaded deck than a player who has invested in loaded dice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steelwhip Posted December 28, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 28, 2010 I always pass my deck off to my opponent to shuffle. kinda fosters the same sence of treatment in return. course im the kinda guy who will also print up his list before hand with points and book and page refrences on them to hand to my opponent so he can look it over before playing-thats mostly for FoW I do that. Back in my Fantasy days ~cough15yearsago~cough~ we had a guy we were pretty sure was using loaded dice...so we all got together and whenever he showed up we would all claim we forgott our dice and have to use his. of course he stomped his feet and blustered about it...but eventually stopped brining those dice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keltheos Posted December 28, 2010 Report Share Posted December 28, 2010 Shaking my head. What else can you say about something like that...it's just a game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ItchyDani3l Posted December 28, 2010 Report Share Posted December 28, 2010 back in my fantasy days ~cough15yearsago~cough~ we had a guy we were pretty sure was using loaded dice...so we all got together and whenever he showed up we would all claim we forgott our dice and have to use his. Of course he stomped his feet and blustered about it...but eventually stopped brining those dice hahahahahahaha!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alondir Posted December 28, 2010 Report Share Posted December 28, 2010 pretty stupid way to cheat really, cant imagine they would get through 1 game without someone picking up and the fact they already drew that card this turn, cheaters no imagination these days Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sliver Chocobo Posted December 28, 2010 Report Share Posted December 28, 2010 pretty stupid way to cheat really, cant imagine they would get through 1 game without someone picking up and the fact they already drew that card this turn, cheaters no imagination these days Depending on how many cards they change depends on if they get notice or it could be as simple as removing the black joker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdgeDs Posted December 29, 2010 Report Share Posted December 29, 2010 Pretty sad really what exactly was they trying to achive? Sure they would start too win a lot but that would then draw more attention too them anyway and then I am sure that their cheating ways would then have been discovered. Now they end up with not being able to play at their local games store and end up looking really pathetic as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steelwhip Posted December 29, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 29, 2010 Pretty sad really what exactly was they trying to achive? Sure they would start too win a lot but that would then draw more attention too them anyway and then I am sure that their cheating ways would then have been discovered. Now they end up with not being able to play at their local games store and end up looking really pathetic as well. well the funny thing is that even with the stacked decks they really didnt win alot which is why they probley flew under the radar for so long they migrated to Malifaux from 40k...and were trying to play it using 40k style tatics.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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