Base Size

[Larkin Vain]

Will base size matter for the skirmish game? The models that are of concern to me are Ramos and Hamelin. The base they come with seem too larger for them.

[goblyn13]

The bases on those two are larger because, Ramos is expected to have one of his mecha Archnid on it as well and Hamelin will have his dog sitting loyally by his side.

[Malebolgia]

Good point. I don't have it covered yet in the rules but I think it is safe to say that all miniatures should be based on 30mm bases, except for the big golems and monsters like Kolljoy which are mounted on 50mm bases.

Basing miniatures on bigger bases is allowed for the game (gives both advantages and disadvantages), but basing them on smaller bases is not.

[AoM]

You can use larger bases? Awesome. Any word if Taelor is going to be allowed in the game? I'd love to use the Taelor I did for the last Femme Fatale (on 40 or 50mm base, don't remember and I'm at work). The drawbacks to the larger base might not offset the advantages enough for me, though. We'll see. I'm eagerly awaiting this one.

[EricJ]

So far there is no plans on removing Taelor from the game

[Larkin Vain]

Thanks for the info. Don't think I can base Hamelin on a small base with his dog and all. I guess it doesn't matter though as I already based Hamelin and Ramos last night.

I'm guessing a large base makes you a bigger target and also allows more models to engage you.

[Larkin Vain]

Oh which leads me to another question... the steampunk spiders... will the always be on a large base and in groups of 3 or should I put them each on a small base?

[Malebolgia]

3 on a 40mm base as one complete swarm.

[Larkin Vain]

40 or 50? Mine's came with a 50 mm base

[Malebolgia]

Really? I think my 6 swarms came with 6 40mm bases (yes, I do have 19 spiders including the one that came with Ramos ). Wait...I'll check the shop.

*Back*

The shop says they come with 40mm bases.

[matty1001]

Mine came with 30mm base's! 3 spiders with 3 bases!

And I too got loads of them lol, I think Iv got about 25!

[Duende]

I thought base sizes didn't matter but how you use them that counts... ?

[Nathan Caroland]

There is the possibility that the 40's and 50's got mixed up at one time, particularly early on when my family was helping with the packaging and/or during the three weeks we ran out of 40mm bases. That being said, they are supposed to be on 40mm bases.

Matty, I have a hard time believing we sent 30mm bases for each spider, mainly as for the longest time I had a hard time keeping them in stock but had plenty of 40's and 50's. Sure they didn't just get jumbled in whatever box they are kept in? If not, my apologies.

[matty1001]

Seriously, every packet of spiders (Each set of 3 was in a little baggie) I got had 3 30mm base's in (I'v just measured them aswell to be sure)

I'm not fussed though so don't worry about it.

EDIT: I ordered them after a massive restock, you had just stocked another 200 and sent a mail out. I ordered them pretty instantly, so It was probably just a little mix up.

[Larkin Vain]

Ah I just checked the online store and my rat dude is supposed to be on a 40 mm base.... hahah i have to re-base him now.

So Ramos is supposed to be on a 50 mm base then? Hmmmm sort of inconsistent. I hope game play isn't effected much.

[Nathan Caroland]

Keep in mind, the mins came before the game. We're working on that and will be making changes to that, and what is in our stock here shortly. Matter of fact, after this thread, I just moved it up the priority list.

[Larkin Vain]

Great news. I think I'll hold off on painting those models and work on the 30mm ones

[AoM]

So good to hear that everything (or close to it) will be making it into the game. Yes! Loved the models before. Loved the idea of a skirmish game with 5-8 models on a side. Loved the brief teasers I got out of Nathan at Gen Con. Now I've got to decide what I'm going to do about basing the models. Unified, or individual settings...

[Thryth]

Curious. What type of base(s) is Rasputina - The Ice Witch supposed to have? Mine was packaged with a 40mm base, but the on-line store says two 30mm bases. I will probably put her and her familiar on one base in any case.

Thanks

[Nathan Caroland]

Another one of those 'working it out'. Partial to the 40mm due to her and the familiar. Its been debated over the two 30mm. Figuring that out right now.

[Hinton]

Well, if the familiar can attack independently of Rasputina, then wouldn't it need to be on its own base? Or will it just stay by her all the time?

[Larkin Vain]

Another one of those 'working it out'. Partial to the 40mm due to her and the familiar. Its been debated over the two 30mm. Figuring that out right now.

Awe man I wish I new this ahead of time. I just finished basing them I'm not sure I can re-base them if needed without breaking them

[Xenon_Wulf]

Small annoying attacks if it's on a different base, extra attacks for Rasputina if it's on the same base?

[matty1001]

You could do different rules for different base sizes.

So:

Both on seperate 30mm bases:

Rasputina gets 1 attack.

Familiar gets 2 attacks.

Both can attack independantly and recieve no +/- modifiers.

Both on a 40mm base:

Rasputina gets 1 attack.

Familiar gets 1 attack.

But as they are both working together the hit modifier gets +1 or something.

I know that ain't flawless, but it's an idea.

[Vytis]

I say because Rasputina is a mad cool ice chick she gets infinite attacks, simply because she's a CHICK, and chicks rule. Her familiar is an extension.

OK, so thats not the case. I think that the familiar should be on a separate base, and almost a separate entity that gives her line of sight for spells and such. Both being magical entities, they would not get more than 1 physical attack since thats not their gig. Perhaps if the familiar is on the base it could give a boost to spell power or some such bonus.