MasterDisaster Posted April 9, 2015 Report Share Posted April 9, 2015 Well said MD. Why thank you sir! You know where I'm coming from though. We've all played against those sorts of players. The game is meant to be fun and these sorts of issues just totally suck the fun out of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zFiend Posted April 9, 2015 Report Share Posted April 9, 2015 Why thank you sir! You know where I'm coming from though. We've all played against those sorts of players. The game is meant to be fun and these sorts of issues just totally suck the fun out of it. I could not agree more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sholto Posted April 9, 2015 Report Share Posted April 9, 2015 I would argue that it's the former but this definition could include the latter, so I was just asking for a clarification what he means. I meant the former Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirial Posted April 9, 2015 Report Share Posted April 9, 2015 I meant the former Thought so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgraz Posted April 9, 2015 Report Share Posted April 9, 2015 I asked because it's the Metal Gamin.....and that thing already confuses me and as far as I'm concerned already sees its share of 'stranger things'. I never would have thought that it could use Protection on itself in the first place. (1) Protection of Metal: Target friendly model within 3” gains the following Condition until this model takes this Action again: “Metal Protection: This model has Df 6. This model’s Df may not be altered by other Abilities, Actions, Upgrades, or Conditions. Remove this Condition immediately if there are no friendly Metal Gamin within 3”.” So he does it to himself......the condition never goes away....because it is friendly to itself, so there is always a friendly Metal Gamin within 3".....so we have a 4SS significant minion with a Ca attack with a stat of 8, Df 6, Armor +2, and H2K (even the heaviest hitters will probably fail to kill this thing in one activation)......with an attack that does minimum 3 damage....because: (1) Fierce Head Butt (Ml 4 / Rst: Df / Rg: 1): Target suffers 1/2/3 damage. If the target is engaged with a friendly model that has the Metal Protection Condition, the target gains the Burning +2 Condition. Since the Gamin is a friendly model with the Metal Protection Condition....anything it engages meets the criteria.....so the attack is basically 3/4/5 with the burning. So the Gamin itself is already a pretty annoying thing to me that I think is quite ridiculous. I wouldn't have thought any of the above was legal....because....well, common sense on a 4ss model. So I've learned not to assume anything with this game. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterDisaster Posted April 9, 2015 Report Share Posted April 9, 2015 Yeah... when you look at it like this Metal Gamin are pretty insane! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirial Posted April 9, 2015 Report Share Posted April 9, 2015 Yeah... when you look at it like this Metal Gamin are pretty insane! Yep. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgraz Posted April 9, 2015 Report Share Posted April 9, 2015 It's one of the things that makes the Mech Rider so potent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterDisaster Posted April 9, 2015 Report Share Posted April 9, 2015 It's one of the things that makes the Mech Rider so potent. Looks like I'll be building my other 2 Metal Gamin once the plastic Mech Rider is released then! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonahmaul Posted April 9, 2015 Report Share Posted April 9, 2015 Metal Gamin are gross! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
admiralvorkraft Posted April 9, 2015 Report Share Posted April 9, 2015 You're gross! *cough* sorry, I'm like twenty-something. I promise. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnomezilla Posted October 12, 2015 Report Share Posted October 12, 2015 You're gross! *cough* sorry, I'm like twenty-something. I promise.I am getting a Malifaux Child just so I have someone around that is able to say those kinds of things. I like Hoffman but he is way too serious. One little joker in a whole crew will not hurt. And that thing about copying the actions of the leader looks like it could be fun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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