Gloomy

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Phew minor panic attack about having to rebase models

Er.. why in the cabinet photos above does Kirai appear to be on a 40mm base? Is that for the Other Side?

Yep, I'm pretty sure that's why the current Transmortis story encounter box hasn't been restocked in ages. Guessing the students will be in Von Schtooks box from now on

@Franchute yeah that would actually work a lot better.

I'm quite interested in finding out which models will be versatile. I wonder if Anna Lovelace and Asura Roten will be. Also I'd be interested to see if Mortimer gets re-purposed/reassigned or whether he's going into the Dead Mans Hand with his Master. Also necropunks? maybe a versatile scheme runner? If I had to choose a theme for them I would say probably Mcmourning.

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If I could describe what the M3E announcement felt like, it was like Wyrd giving me a huge piece of chocolate cake with real cream and strawberries and then punching me hard in the stomach. Now I'm rolling around the floor in pain covered in delicious cake... In all seriousness I'm super excited for a new edition. I just need a period of mourning for some of my favourite masters. Collodi was my first master, and imo still the coolest concept in the game. I'm glad he's still usable in Dead mans Hand and i will definitely continue to play him. I just hope I can still use the all the models i got to go with him as I bought, assembled and painted everything with the puppet tagword. I'm very interested to see what happened to him in the fluff and I totally believe he'll come back at some point in the future, as someone said earlier Neverborn without the creepy dolls just doesn't seem right

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I don't really see this as a problem, from whats been said they're going to be balanced for tournament play. And I've definitely seen people (myself included) solo Masters at tournaments with fixed lists and win. But your right in the sense that it's hard to speculate without knowing what the stats or new rules are going to be. It just seems to me to be the best way to keep them relevant and involved in tournaments without giving specific factions an advantage. Not so sure about the Henchman idea as Henchmen lead crews are not usually allowed at tournaments anyway

I was just talking about it with some of our local group, and my suggestion to handle that problem in tournaments would be allow Dead Mans hand Masters, but make a rule that if you are using one you have to solo it with no access to other Masters. That way people can still play them if they want but the other Neverborn/Resser/Arcanist players wouldn't have access to them as a choice

The thing is if they are changing some of the masters playstyles quite drastically anyway, these masters could have been changed significantly and left in the game. Nico being an undead liche thing, maybe he doesn't summon anymore. Maybe Ramos is used by the Guild now with a bunch of other convicts as like a dirty dozen crew of prisoners? There are plenty of options without making players feel like they've invested lots of time and money in models that they probably won't get to use I understand that Wyrd want to make space to sell new Masters and such but in all honesty we'd all buy and play those ones as well

I think they should make Nico summonable, just to really rub salt in the wound

I think it would definitely be better as a 0. Maybe a 0 with a 3" then it might be worth taking

Oh sorry you'd already said that, my bad. Great minds...

Exactly what I thought. I love the idea of them as these pitiful sobbing belles that can keep their manipulative up, but can't really think of a use for them. I guess they can force more wp duels, but I'd rather take belles, doxies or necropunks Possibly useful in Ours as they can sit in quarters and are tricky to remove? It seems to me that funeral shroud would be their signature action that would make them useful, but a 1" range is poor, maybe it should've been a 3"

Ok I'm going to condense all my moaning into one post and then be quiet. 1. Please don't make big cards, there's barely enough room on tourney tables as it is + I'll have to buy new card storage 2. I'm against hiring a 2nd Master in crews. It's like Alien and Predator, both cool but in the same movie... terrible 3. Please don't axe Collodi because puppet crews are awesome There I'm done, everything else I'm super excited about

Oh right, I'd read that wrong then, I thought he meant the cards were the same

I think its just the picture, apparently they are the same size as the current ones

Yeah I would Imagine so. In which case they would become more like a henchman which is not something I'm keen on the idea of

Yeah sure, but my puppets...😢

Even if hiring a 2nd master is balanced somehow, I still don't like the aesthetic of it, I think it diminishes the impact of having a master.

Yep totally agree, lets hope this idea gets dismissed in the beta testing. Goes against the whole thematic crew idea anyway

I really can't see TO's not allowing Dead Mans hand Crews at tournaments to be honest, especially if they are balanced for tournament play. Most TO's want to get as many people through the door as possible.

Does this mean Nicodem gets the Undead trait? Wait... can we summon him?!? Oh please let us summon him