Mako Posted August 22, 2013 Report Share Posted August 22, 2013 Not a very inspiring title I know, but the plan (as mentioned on my WiP thread) is to have every model based for its theme, but also matching up at least partly with anyone else it can be taken with. The basic plan is to give each faction a theme, then each crew sub themes within those, and combine sub themes for models that can wander across factions so they match both to a degree. That way, whatever crew I make I still have coherent basing, but I don't have to resort to totally generic bases to do it. Also, I'm not bothering to consider the Mercenary characteristic, as it would get silly since everyone can take them and I don't typically bother with taking mercs. So the initial step is to come up with a plan for each faction (which I haven't fully figured out yet): [TABLE=class: outer_border, width: 500, align: left] [TR] [TD]Guild [/TD] [TD]City Streets[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Resurrectionists[/TD] [TD]Dilapidated areas, alleyways, gardens etc[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Arcanists [/TD] [TD]Industrial[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Neverborn[/TD] [TD][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Outcasts[/TD] [TD]Badlands/Ruins[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Gremlins[/TD] [TD]Swamps/Bayou[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Ten Thunders[/TD] [TD][/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] Then I need to give each crew a sub theme (still figuring those out too): [TABLE=width: 500, align: left] [TR] [TD]Justice[/TD] [TD]Quarantine zone [/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Sonnia[/TD] [TD]Tenements, Worker housing[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Perdita[/TD] [TD]Latigo walls/city walls/gates[/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] Which then moves me on to working out which minions and masters need to cover multiple factions, and which themes and sub themes I need to combine (which might result in a bit of swapping sub themes about to get them to fit with each other). [TABLE=width: 591] [TR] [TD][/TD] [TD]Guild[/TD] [TD]Resser[/TD] [TD]Arcanist[/TD] [TD]Nevborn[/TD] [TD]Outcast[/TD] [TD]Gremlin[/TD] [TD]Tenthun[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Madame Sybelle[/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD]X, SEAM[/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Mortimer[/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD]X, NICO[/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Sebastian[/TD] [TD]MCMO[/TD] [TD]X, MCMO[/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Bete Noire[/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD]X[/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Canine Remains[/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD]X, MCMO[/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD]LEVI[/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Crooked Man[/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD]X[/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD]LEVI[/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Flesh Construct[/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD]X, MCMO[/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD]LEVI[/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Mindless Zombie[/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD]X, NICO[/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Necropunk[/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD]X[/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD]LEVI[/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Nurse[/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD]X, MCMO[/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Punk Zombie[/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD]X, NICO[/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD]LEVI[/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Rotten Belle[/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD]X, SEAM[/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD]LEVI[/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]The Hanged[/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD]X[/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD]LEVI[/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] [TABLE=width: 591] [/TABLE] Currently, Misaki is on a water base (and from the unreleased wave 2 stuff, Graves is on a wooden and marble casino floor, Yan Lo is on an old graveyard. Kirai's crew is all in an old tea garden, but they're metal so may yet be replaced...). Other than that I have free rein to play with any ideas. So, the current big task is producing a list of all the minions and which masters they can serve in which factions. Anyone fancy helping out? Once that's done, I can start figuring out how the heck I'm going to make this plan work... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mehter Posted August 22, 2013 Report Share Posted August 22, 2013 Have fun. I started to do something like this about a month before GenCon, and I'm having a good time with it. Although I'm only doing Ressers, and Perdita's crew. Your ideas for multiple faction basing sounds frustrating, but I'll be interested to see how it comes out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mako Posted August 22, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 22, 2013 Well, so far I just have Seamus, Justice, Tara, Raspy and the Viks to do from the new plastics, with Jakob and Misaki left from last year's plastics. But I figure if I plan it out properly, the other masters will fit into it without too much swearing... No doubt it will be a bigger hassle than I expect, though! Should be a laugh to see it go awry *grin* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mperry1701 Posted August 22, 2013 Report Share Posted August 22, 2013 Sounds like a great idea. I personally find doing the bases to be half the fun of the models. I can't wait to see some pictures. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Shaper Posted August 22, 2013 Report Share Posted August 22, 2013 When I started with my Ten Thunders I put all of those crews on similar bases... a run down city style so if Yan Lo had some Wastrels with him it did look right when they were on the table... With the new crews coming out I'm also planning something similar with different styles of flagstones and depending on where in the city there will be ruined ones or maintained ones... I'm still not sure about Gremlins or Neverborn tho since I don't feel they should be on a simalar base. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mako Posted August 22, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 22, 2013 I'm going to have quite disparate bases across the factions, so they'll all be in their most fluffy environment. Gremlins and neverborn will be tricky, as you say they don't match up with a lot of the other crews. I'll have to do that carefully, but I think the brewmaster and zoraida are the only crossover between them. It's the beckoners I'm worried about! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Shine Posted August 22, 2013 Report Share Posted August 22, 2013 Magnetize them! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Monkey Posted August 22, 2013 Report Share Posted August 22, 2013 Just put everything on clear plastic bases, then they match whatever terrain you are playing on *grin* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edonil Posted August 22, 2013 Report Share Posted August 22, 2013 ...man, good luck, lol. I'm doing all Cobblestone/Town Square bases for my things and having a hard time figuring out how to differentiate crews...but mine is still going to be easier! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Webmonkey Posted August 23, 2013 Report Share Posted August 23, 2013 individually themed group bases that all cross-perform when necessary??? .jpg] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edonil Posted August 23, 2013 Report Share Posted August 23, 2013 I think that was just a given... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mako Posted August 23, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 23, 2013 *grin* I do so love my reputation for stupid plans. I can come up with any old madness and people are totally fine with it now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Webmonkey Posted August 23, 2013 Report Share Posted August 23, 2013 I think you thrive on the stress of trying to accomplish these things. A bit sado-masochistic, to be sure. But I think it also helps relieve your OCD,.. *twitch*,.. OCD,.. *twitch,... OCD,... *twitch,twitch*,.... But the doctors say that you're doing much better now,... *grin* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mako Posted August 23, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 23, 2013 Heh, I like to find ways to challenge myself, it's true. I just wish they didn't involve so much planning and making giant tables of minions and cross faction master links... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i_was_like_you Posted August 23, 2013 Report Share Posted August 23, 2013 Just put everything on clear plastic bases, then they match whatever terrain you are playing on *grin* That's been my plan for awhile, but I just haven't bought the clear bases yet. Not sure which crews I want to give the clear treatment to, though. Maybe my mercs, as they can fit with anyone... For Zoraida and her usual swampfiends, and for my gremlins, I have gone with a bayou theme. Other Neverborn get to have a separate theme or themes, once I figure out what that is going to be. Good luck in this endeavor, Mako. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mehter Posted August 23, 2013 Report Share Posted August 23, 2013 Ya, most of mine are going to be on cobblestone bases from every line I can get a hold of. Having the same 5 bases from Wyrd on every Resser model would be lame, and expensive. Luckily, cobblestone works with most Resser models, sans possibly Yan Lo and crew. But you can still make a case for it. Such as: Izamu ran into town to grab some in 'n out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Monkey Posted August 23, 2013 Report Share Posted August 23, 2013 I am pretty sure it is the making tables part you enjoy the most Mako.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zac Posted August 23, 2013 Report Share Posted August 23, 2013 I've been planning to do this as well. So far I've worked out my guild: Theme: wild west Justice crew: graveyard Perdita: swamp Sonnia: ghost town Lucas: standard desert Hoffman: rusting scrap The things that I'm not so sure about are McMourning and lucius. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nagash13 Posted August 24, 2013 Report Share Posted August 24, 2013 pshhh everyone knows its not OCD, its CDO. then it's preoperly alphabetized like it should be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmeep Posted August 24, 2013 Report Share Posted August 24, 2013 (edited) my models are based not by faction but where i see them in my mind so neverborn are split over swamp (zoraida feralgeist lilith) orphanage ( pandora and her croonies mostly) and city streets for the honey pot crew. Collodi and his marionettes and wicked dolls are based on balsawood floors as they preform for the crowds. resssers come on a city or graveyard base depending on if i see them more as a seamus or nicodem type minion with the exception of all mcmourning related minis, they are on morgue bases. Yan lo and rest of the book4 ressers are on skullbases from secret weapon as he wanders the paths of bone etc in the afterlife they became more of a spectral legion kind of a thing. the orphanage bases were originally intended for mollys box but it seemed more fitting to have the crooligans running about in the streets and the rogue necromancy as a morgue resident. hence the orphanage became a pandora hand me down. my outcasts are on city bases when it comes to levi and viks but hamelin and his crew will be based on sewer inserts as soon as i can get around to painting rats over and over again... ^^ your system is going to be more complex then mine as i simply go by what i feel is right. Then again im not a stickler for conformity so im not bothered by mismatched bases as i play a random asmortment of ressers or izamu on his skullfilled afterlife base with levis city streets and canine remains on graveyard bases The things that I'm not so sure about are McMourning and lucius. Mcmourning in a butchers shop or any wooden floor with sawdust blood and a sawed of limb, hes a doctor but all he ever prescribes his patients are amputations so he can stitch together his avatar lucious as a riverboat gambling kind of thing? or just riding in the gouvernors personal train carrige (think wild wild west, yes its horrible) Edited August 24, 2013 by dmeep Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mako Posted August 24, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 24, 2013 Well, I spent some time today starting to work all this out, and immediately realised I'm somewhat limited as to which models I can figure out until the rest of the masters are in beta. I can't guess all the hiring rules that will be in for things like the Tormented and Lost keywords, or how all seven masters would be based for the best look. I can do some, as I doubt the ronin and viks will need anything more than to be badlands with a bit of water on the ronin in case misaki takes them as an outcast master. The december minions likewise will be industrial and snow/ice, and probably won't be takeable out of faction so they should be good. In fact, thinking about it as I type, most of the stuff I got at gencon I can work out fairly sensibly, all the really odd combinations won't matter until the second wave beta! Although the belles will want to be suitable for all the resser masters and Leveticus, so that could be interesting... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tsmtogo Posted August 25, 2013 Report Share Posted August 25, 2013 Mako, I have read some of your other post and have become a big fan of your work. You are very talented. Thought I might have an idea to toss out for you. I do not know if it will help or not. Years ago me and my friends use to play on different board types and I was anal about my bases matching the boards that we were playing on. So I ended up making a lot of bases for the different types of boards. Then I was making them interchangeable. I tried magnets at first and worked some what well. What I found to work the best for me was notching the bottom of the slot on the slota base. Basically I would put a T type pin in the mini. Then on all the bases I would have enough space the the T part of the pin could slide through. Then on the bottom of the base I would notch it so the pi would clear and had a slight ramp up to the center of the slot from the opposite directions. The top of the T would only go down about half to 3/4 of the depth of the slot. This way the base was not sitting on the wire. This way when i wanted to play on the board I would just grab what bases I wanted. Insert my minis into the base and do a 1/4 turn and they were locked into the base. It is just and idea and hopefully it might help with some ideas. If you want more information on how I did the bases just let me know. Have a great day and keep up the awsome work . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mako Posted August 25, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 25, 2013 That is a seriously clever idea, and much cheaper and in some ways simpler than using hundreds of magnets! I'm not going to go for changeable bases I think, mostly due to the lazy thing of not having to have a stock of each type of base and fit the right ones to models before a game. It also gives me the freedom to go nuts with my basing within the themes (oh, my ice golem base will be fun...). But for anyone who's not a fairly deranged painter, it's definitely worth a try! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adran Posted August 29, 2013 Report Share Posted August 29, 2013 Interesting idea, but not sure its feasable. Mind you when has that ever stopped anyone... Currently the following models would need to fit 2 factions Guild/Ressurectionist McMorning Sebastian Nurse Guild Guard (lawyer) Zombie Chuhuauaua Death Marshall (also outcast) Ressurectionist/Outcast Tara Karina Nothing beast Void wretch Ten Thunder/arcanist Mei feng Kang Rail worker Emberling Metal Gamin Rail Golem Outcast/Tenthunder Misaki Shang Torkage Oiran Yamiziko Neverborn/ten thunder JAcob Lynch Huggy Beckoner Illuminated Gremlin /10 thunder Brewmaster Wesley Fingers Whiskey Golem Moon Shinobi Neverborn/Gremlin Zoraida Voodoo BAd Juju Silurid Waldigiest Lenny Bayou Piglet RAmi Rapael Pere War Pig Hog Whisperer For Zoraida Nurse, Ototo, Papa loco For Marcus Canine remains Silurid Waldigiest Dawn Serpent I've probably missed something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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