Uglybug Posted August 20, 2012 Report Share Posted August 20, 2012 Been a long time fan of the game and miniatures and I have all the special editions, but I feel disappointed with the nightmare edition tree. Having only seen photos I think you way over priced it. GW sells their tree terrain for $30 and it's about the same size wise. You could have sold this for let's say $40 and I would have bought 3 without a second thought then I would have probably come back and placed another order for 6 more thinking how I was going to make a cool display board. I realize you have mold costs on this item and if you had not made it a gen con only item you could have easily sold tons of these trees over time to make even more profit. As it stands now I sadly only purchased 1 tree, in fact I only made 1 order this year just over $100 where as last year I easily spent $500 because I got caught up in the gen con excitement. Oh well, at least all the other stuff you are realizing in the plastics look good and I am sure I will be buying in the future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crooked Grin Posted August 20, 2012 Report Share Posted August 20, 2012 You do realise that you're not getting one tree, but three in one box? There's the big one with Eric and Nathan both hanging from it and two smaller one with either Eric or Nathan that can be used as alternate The Hanged. Plus there are a lot of extras like vultures etc. on the sprues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozz Posted August 20, 2012 Report Share Posted August 20, 2012 Ah cool, i didnt know there were any extras on the sprues Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uglybug Posted August 20, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 20, 2012 I did not know about all the extra bits, that is a nice plus. And I was uncertain if it came with cards to be used as the hanged, I'm glad that it does. But the GW trees come 3 large trees in a box plus foliage and the large molded base. GW has the upper hand that it can deflect the cost of the mold over many years and tons of castings. The malifaux trees do look better in my opinion and it is a shame that it will be available for such a limited time. Perhaps it can be offered every year at gencon or given out as prize support. Although it sucks for those that have dished out the money at a higher price already this could have been a great marketing tool to stores. Just think of all your LGS that have the GW trees on their game boards all of a sudden the malifaux trees show up and are being used. It gets customers talking about the brand and the game! I know wyrd is committed to the terra clips thing but I hope they can see outside that box and recognize that there is a lack of steam punk scenery for the traditional table top board. Keep in mind the warmachine players would also jump all over the steam punk buildings too. Wyrd has invested in the equipment lets use it to its full potential. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malersatz Posted August 20, 2012 Report Share Posted August 20, 2012 I second the idea of Wyrd developing a terrain line in plastics! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Posted August 20, 2012 Report Share Posted August 20, 2012 I never really thought of them as terrain. I thought they were just this years "nightmare model", which happened to be a tree that they could hang the founders of the company from. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirarii Posted August 20, 2012 Report Share Posted August 20, 2012 It IS nightmare edition. GW trees are standard run of the mill trees everyone can get. This is a bit more special and, to me at least, more of a collectors edition model. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Archangel- Posted August 20, 2012 Report Share Posted August 20, 2012 I'm really new to Malifaux as a game. Our gaming group just started playing it a few months ago. I picked the Dreamer crew because I liked the models and the concept. Then I saw all the spiffy previous nightmare editions with LCB and Teddy and got all excited. Sad I missed out, but excited for this year's nonetheless. So when I saw this year's I had a hard time with it as well. I loved the previous nightmare edition models and was kind of bummed that this one, though with all kinds of cool bits, ended up being prety much terrain. Very cool terain with shiny bits, but still terain. Don't get me wrong, Hanging the designers from a cool tree with shiny bits is extremely funny and I love that there IS a hanging tree. But at $80 it's a bit steep. I decided to pass on it so far. I was hoping for a playable model even if it was another faction than mine. Personally since they brought out 10T, thought it would be cool to do a nightmare 10T fig. Maybe next year. -Archangel- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeusInnomen Posted August 20, 2012 Report Share Posted August 20, 2012 I think people aren't realizing that the box contains not just the big Hanging Tree terrain piece, but two smaller 50mm Hanging Trees, one each with a Nathan and Eric on them, and stat cards for the smaller trees to use them as alternate sculpts of The Hanged. So, you get a large terrain piece AND two Resurrectionist models for the price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiaden Posted August 21, 2012 Report Share Posted August 21, 2012 Well and if you decide to go for the avatar dreamer, then you can place a hanging tree every second round. So it is in a way also a model for gaming. Sadly I missed on nightmare dreamer and on the nightmare teddys. But As soon as I saw the nightmare hanging tree I really thought how cool a crew of a nightmare dreamer + 3 nightmare Teddies + avatar dreamer + nightmare hanging tree would look like. Only need a nightmare version of the avatar to complete the nightmare style. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i_was_like_you Posted September 2, 2012 Report Share Posted September 2, 2012 (edited) A shot of the sprues: ...Add birds to taste, and voila! I'm guessing the main tree counts as a 90mm base, should I decide to make one for it. My only complaint would have to be that the ropes on both Erics broke (one during shipping and handling, before I even opened the box; the other when I was removing it from the sprue). Maybe think thicker ropes from now on, guys? Oh, and here are the Eric & Nathan Hanged stat cards (along with the complimentary Malifaux 39" tape measures). Edited September 2, 2012 by i_was_like_you stat cards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nix Posted September 2, 2012 Report Share Posted September 2, 2012 Yours went together very cleanly.. nice! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psychocamel Posted September 2, 2012 Report Share Posted September 2, 2012 Man they look way too big to be hanging trees Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i_was_like_you Posted September 3, 2012 Report Share Posted September 3, 2012 Yeah, but they scale nicely with Nightmare Chompy and Teddy. Although, the main tree is either too large or too small for the actual Hanging Tree that Jack Daw resides upon (too large for the terrain piece in the rules; too small in the fluff). Regardless, it looks great, and was fairly easy to assemble (didn't even use glue on the larger pieces of the main tree). Uglybug does have a point, though, if GW is putting out bigger trees cheaper (words I never thought I'd hear about GW, especially in relation to Wyrd), then I've gotta fight hard not to feel gypped on the price to product ratio. For my reference, just how big are the new crew boxes, compared to the one for these trees, now that they're all plastic sprues? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pierowmaniac Posted September 3, 2012 Report Share Posted September 3, 2012 I'm guessing the main tree counts as a 90mm base, should I decide to make one for it. I thought The Main tree was just a a Terrain Piece and doesn't need a specific size base? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JisaacT Posted September 3, 2012 Report Share Posted September 3, 2012 Aw man that tape measure looks cool! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i_was_like_you Posted September 4, 2012 Report Share Posted September 4, 2012 I thought The Main tree was just a a Terrain Piece and doesn't need a specific size base? It is, but sometimes it's handy to have the size readily available. Here's Miss Terious, in case anyone wanted to take a peek. Thinkin' about wiring up a green LED inside the hollow casket to give it an eerie glow. Wouldn't have even considered it with the old, solid pewter coffins. Haven't glued her hat on yet, for ease of painting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadowopal Posted September 4, 2012 Report Share Posted September 4, 2012 Man they look way too big to be hanging trees Fun thing is that the Resserectionist versions have cards with the 50mm base size printed on the cards. So, they are legit in their bigness. not sure what it does to their play style as I don't play Ressers yet. But, I will find out eventually. ---------- Post added at 10:14 PM ---------- Previous post was at 10:13 PM ---------- It is, but sometimes it's handy to have the size readily available. Here's Miss Terious, in case anyone wanted to take a peek. [ATTACH=CONFIG]7621[/ATTACH] Thinkin' about wiring up a green LED inside the hollow casket to give it an eerie glow. Wouldn't have even considered it with the old, solid pewter coffins. Haven't glued her hat on yet, for ease of painting. I was thinking the same thing for the LED. It would be pretty slick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MudgeBlack Posted September 4, 2012 Report Share Posted September 4, 2012 The 50mm base should give you a little more board control because they have terror in a 1" radius (their melee range) so instead of an approximately 3"+ of terror it will be closer to 4" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ratty Posted September 4, 2012 Report Share Posted September 4, 2012 But on the negative side it will be a bit harder to maneuver them. It will take more movement to get them all the way thorough a wall. I think overall they are about as good as the 30mm version. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i_was_like_you Posted September 4, 2012 Report Share Posted September 4, 2012 Hmm, are the original ones supposed to be 30mm or 50mm? The v2 stat cards shows 30mm still. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadowopal Posted September 4, 2012 Report Share Posted September 4, 2012 Hmm, are the original ones supposed to be 30mm or 50mm? The v2 stat cards shows 30mm still. Non-Nightmare-Hanging-Tree versions of The Hanged are 30mm. Nightmare-Hanging-Tree Versions are 50mm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i_was_like_you Posted September 4, 2012 Report Share Posted September 4, 2012 Non-Nightmare-Hanging-Tree versions of The Hanged are 30mm. Nightmare-Hanging-Tree Versions are 50mm. All at no extra ss cost or anything? Somehow that doesn't seem fair. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ratty Posted September 4, 2012 Report Share Posted September 4, 2012 All at no extra ss cost or anything? Somehow that doesn't seem fair. If they dropped corpse counters I would agree, but a bit extra board control in return for making them harder to hide and maneuver, I can't see myself taking the 50mm over the 30mm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MudgeBlack Posted September 4, 2012 Report Share Posted September 4, 2012 I will have to give them a try but I see using them more as terrain than active models. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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