Next for Honeypot? Theories and Wishes

[Maogrim]

你们好!

As you might have guessed by my profile picture, for M3E I got interested in the Ten Thunders and especially in Honeypot.

Now, I noticed something: Honeypot is basically the most "pure" Ten Thunders keyword there is, since they have not a single entry that can be used in another faction: In contrast Last Blossom has Wouku Raiders for Outcasts, Oni has the Akaname in Bayou, Monk has the Fermented Rivers which can be fielded by Bayou's Tri-Chi, Qi & Gong has Hinamatsu in Neverborn, and of course the dual keywords Wastrel, Ancestor / Retainer and Foundry which can all be deployed under the banner of their 'other' faction.

All the Honeypot entries belong only to the Ten Thunders, and not a single Honeypot model has a second keyword.

That got me thinking about whether there would ever be a minion, enforcer or henchman that is going to be Honeypot and also something else. And this thought led me to the question in what Honeypot could expect in terms of future reinforcements, either as thematic additions or in simply patching weaknesses.

Here are some ideas! Tell me what you think, and/or add your own creations!

 

Bartender, Minion (2), Living

Honeypot

Concept: The lore on Honeypot mentions laced alcohol as one of the main ways of getting people addicted to Brilliance, especially as there are certain folks that wouldn't enter the Honeypot. The Bartenders would get the job done. Imagine humans that are well-dressed, maybe hold a towel, a bottle, glasses, and ooze a somewhat sinister charisma, like Lloyd in Kubrick's The Shining.

 

Attack Actions:

Laced Drinks: Rg 1", Stat 6, Rst WP, TN -

Target gains Poison +1 and gains a Brilliance Token.

    Generous tip: Target discards either a soulstone or a card from its control hand.

 

"You with the Guard?": Rg 6", Stat 5, Rst WP, TN 11

Target gains Distracted +1 and reveals its control hand.

    "Snitches get Stitches!": Target gains Adversary (Honeypot).

 

 

[Adran]

Thats quite strange, especially since the majority of the crew were duel faction for the last two editions, but once Huggy left the neverborn it seems he has been able to keep all his followers loyal to him (so Grave and Tannen lost Nephlim and woe, which were the types of neverborn they used to be). Must be something about having total control over an addictive substance...

[Jesy Blue]

I still hold onto the idea of some Neverborn junkies snitching to Huggy so they can still get product... like halfway between Illuminated & Depleted.

[Maogrim]

3 hours ago, Jesy Blue said:

I still hold onto the idea of some Neverborn junkies snitching to Huggy so they can still get product... like halfway between Illuminated & Depleted.

That'a a cool idea! Maybe even Nephilim Halfbloods? Would tie into Euripides' prophecy, according to which Nekima would eventually become filled with brilliance and fall to the Darkness.

[Vessien]

5 hours ago, Maogrim said:

你们好!

As you might have guessed by my profile picture, for M3E I got interested in the Ten Thunders and especially in Honeypot.

Now, I noticed something: Honeypot is basically the most "pure" Ten Thunders keyword there is, since they have not a single entry that can be used in another faction: In contrast Last Blossom has Wouku Raiders for Outcasts, Oni has the Akaname in Bayou, Monk has the Fermented Rivers which can be fielded by Bayou's Tri-Chi, Qi & Gong has Hinamatsu in Neverborn, and of course the dual keywords Wastrel, Ancestor / Retainer and Foundry which can all be deployed under the banner of their 'other' faction.

All the Honeypot entries belong only to the Ten Thunders, and not a single Honeypot model has a second keyword.

That got me thinking about whether there would ever be a minion, enforcer or henchman that is going to be Honeypot and also something else. And this thought led me to the question in what Honeypot could expect in terms of future reinforcements, either as thematic additions or in simply patching weaknesses.

Here are some ideas! Tell me what you think, and/or add your own creations!

 

Bartender, Minion (2), Living

Honeypot

Concept: The lore on Honeypot mentions laced alcohol as one of the main ways of getting people addicted to Brilliance, especially as there are certain folks that wouldn't enter the Honeypot. The Bartenders would get the job done. Imagine humans that are well-dressed, maybe hold a towel, a bottle, glasses, and ooze a somewhat sinister charisma, like Lloyd in Kubrick's The Shining.

 

Attack Actions:

Laced Drinks: Rg 1", Stat 6, Rst WP, TN -

Target gains Poison +1 and gains a Brilliance Token.

    Generous tip: Target discards either a soulstone or a card from its control hand.

 

"You with the Guard?": Rg 6", Stat 5, Rst WP, TN 11

Target gains Distracted +1 and reveals its control hand.

    "Snitches get Stitches!": Target gains Adversary (Honeypot).

 

 

I really like the idea, but where would it be doubling the keyword/faction?

Also I guess that at 2SS (and 2 wounds?), I would see it difficult to play. But with some tweaking I could see it. Maybe increasing the cost and the range of some of the actions would, let's say, something like a daydream range and wounds (10' 3W)?

 

[Maogrim]

1 hour ago, Vessien said:

I really like the idea, but where would it be doubling the keyword/faction?

Also I guess that at 2SS (and 2 wounds?), I would see it difficult to play. But with some tweaking I could see it. Maybe increasing the cost and the range of some of the actions would, let's say, something like a daydream range and wounds (10' 3W)?

 

Oh, I couldn't quite come with a double keyword model for Honeypot, but I did have some ideas, and the Bartenders are one of them.

The 2 in brackets isn't supposed to be the cost nor the wounds but the number in which they can be hired. So you could hire two Bartenders , similar to Beckoners or Rat Catchers..

The profile is incomplete, of course. I guess I'd give them Rig the Deck and Manipulative on the front of the card. 5 as stats through the board. And maybe a tactical action that would remove a condition on a friendly model while adding a Brilliance Token. 

Thanks for the feedback, I appreciate it!

[Assdex]

I really miss stitcheds.

Second i think honeypot right now is allmost complete keyword.

They got minions , enforcers and henchmans. 

Will be great for mr. Chang . 

I think if we got new hench for honeypot and blossom . With execute. Its my dream but i really wanna see some mb versatile ninja misaki emisar for another crew , how work like ears and eyes. 

Like Chang in honeypot.

[Thatguy]

12 hours ago, Maogrim said:

Laced Drinks: Rg 1", Stat 6, Rst WP, TN -

Target gains Poison +1 and gains a Brilliance Token.

    Generous tip: Target discards either a soulstone or a card from its control hand.

I think Copying the Have a Drink action other models have would be better. Maybe have a built in trigger with: "If the target has poison 3 or greater they gain a brilliance token"

Sorta like the Dr. Stanley's biological warfare trigger. 

[Maogrim]

13 hours ago, Assdex said:

I really miss stitcheds.

Second i think honeypot right now is allmost complete keyword.

They got minions , enforcers and henchmans. 

Will be great for mr. Chang . 

I think if we got new hench for honeypot and blossom . With execute. Its my dream but i really wanna see some mb versatile ninja misaki emisar for another crew , how work like ears and eyes. 

Like Chang in honeypot.

If I look at keywords like Ancestor/Retainer or Performer I'm not ready to settle for less with Honeypot. ;)

Oh, yes, that Mr Cheng who appeared as Misaki's overseer for the Honeypot Casino in the 'The House folds' story in the Neverborn faction book! Good idea! He could indeed be Honeypot and Last Blossom. #

I'd probably give him None For Me, like Jakob himself. Execute is great, of course, but what else could he have to tie him to the keyword mechanically without relying on Brilliance?

8 hours ago, Thatguy said:

I think Copying the Have a Drink action other models have would be better. Maybe have a built in trigger with: "If the target has poison 3 or greater they gain a brilliance token"

Sorta like the Dr. Stanley's biological warfare trigger. 

Have A Drink is reasonable, but I'd just give him The Light Inside on a mask trigger, since I don't really like a trigger that would require several Have A Drink attacks as well as the correct suite to work.

[Assdex]

11 hours ago, Maogrim said:

If I look at keywords like Ancestor/Retainer or Performer I'm not ready to settle for less with Honeypot.

Oh, yes, that Mr Cheng who appeared as Misaki's overseer for the Honeypot Casino in the 'The House folds' story in the Neverborn faction book! Good idea! He could indeed be Honeypot and Last Blossom. #

I'd probably give him None For Me, like Jakob himself. Execute is great, of course, but what else could he have to tie him to the keyword mechanically without relying on Brilliance?

Have A Drink is reasonable, but I'd just give him The Light Inside on a mask trigger, since I don't really like a trigger that would require several Have A Drink attacks as well as the correct suite to work.

I think mb he can get some like knife with execute and light inside.and shadow jump like ototo. Second be some sort of sober from brilliance he discard brilliance then give target distracted. With trigger hangover target get 1/2/3 dmg . Or shadow cofuse if target near shadow marker get stun 

And bonus action some sort of 

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