SoylentRobot Posted September 20, 2016 Report Share Posted September 20, 2016 Because it's a Mercenary, the Malifaux Child can copy a whole lot of Casting actions with its Just Like You action. It can be potentially hired by any Master or Henchman crew leader, so I thought it would be useful to make a list of all the possible Casting actions the Child could copy. If an action comes from an upgrade, that's shown by the upgrade's name in parenthesis. This list isn't complete yet because I don't have book 4 just yet. Please let me know if I've made a mistake! Generic Upgrades Unforgiving Stench (Corpse Bloat) Melancholy (Depression) Sisters In Battle (Synchronized Slaying) Smoke Bombs (Smoke & Shadows) Catch! (Poorly Handled Explosives) Disable It! (Poorly Handled Explosives) Light 'em Up! (Airship Spotlight) Aeslin A Wicked Silence Rot and Rend Allison Dade One More Question! Uncovering the Truth Amina Naidu Sharp Wit Summons Asami Reaching Tendrils Oni's Strength Captain Dashel On Yer Feet! Candy Self Loathing Wail Goody Basket Cassandra Breath of Fire Colette Prompt Disappearing Act Collodi Pull The Strings Datsue Ba Weigh Sins Francois LaCroix Gremlin Menace Hamelin Bleeding Disease Obey (The Piper) Hannah Void Record (Ancient Tomes) Hoffman Machine Puppet Redirect Power O.S.A (On Site Assimilation) Update Hardware (Field Mechanic) Detonate (Remote Mines) Hungering Darkness Tendrils Heed My Voice Ironsides You Lookin' At Me? Jack Daw Suppressed Memories Noose Feel Their Torment (Twist and Turn) Jakob Lynch Play For Blood Final Debt (Woke Up With A Hand) Kaeris Flaming Halo Immolate Accelerant Kirai Sundering Swirling Spirits Mark The Soul (Absorb Spirit) Kudra Elemental Bolt Lady Justice Justice Unleashed (Justice Unleashed) Leveticus Unmaking Lilith Wicked Vines Tangle Shadows Transfixing Gaze (Wicked Mistress) Black Blood Pustule (Summon the Blood) Lucas McCabe Black Flash (Badge of Speed) Elixir of Living a Few Seconds Longer (Elixir of Life) Lucius What Lackeys Are For Guild Intelligence Madame Sybelle Shriek Mah Tucket Horrible Hollerin' Marcus The Law of Meat Mancha Roja Tossed in the Mud (Mud Toss) Master Queeg Welcome To Hell, And I Am Your Devil McMourning Rancid Transplant Spot Weakness (On The Clock) On Order of the Governor's Secretary...I Love Saying That (On The Clock) McTavish Wrangle Critter (Cute Critters) Tossed in the Mud (Mud Toss) Mei Feng Railwalker Scalding Breath (Vapormancy) Misaki Downburst Pilfer (Cutpurse) Molly Whispered Secret Revelation Mortimer Fling Rot Fresh Meat Myranda Primal Flame Hunting Call Nellie Scathing Review Propaganda Hot Off The Presses Nicodem Rigor Mortis Decay The Fog (Reaper Grin) Undead Crowning (Necrotic King) Nix Bleeding Disease Ohaguro Bettari The Hunting Song Pandora Self Loathing Self Harm Nullify (Fugue State) Project Emotions (Cry For Me) Those Who Dwell Within (The Box Opens) Parker Barrows The Job's Not Done Yet High Explosives (Crate of Dynamite) Perdita Obey Philip and the Nanny Haunting Cries (Haunting Cries) Ramos Electrical Fire Uncontrolled Detonation Arcing Screen (Field Generator) Combat Mechanic (Combat Mechanic) Rasputina Freeze Over December's Curse December's Touch Ice Pillars (Cold Nights) Reva Ethereal Reaping Look On My Works Blood Mark (Blood Mark) Rusty Alyce Burn Out Samael Hopkins Flaming Bullets Burn Them Out (Witch Hunt) Sammy LaCroix Jinx Sandeep Arcane Storm The Mind Among The Senses Scion of the Void Empty Lessons Hungry Emptiness Seamus Live For Pain (Sinister Reputation) Sebastian Under Cover Bloody Harvest Sensei Yu Airburst Mighty Gust (Wandering River Style) Shenlong Burn Like Fire Mighty Gust (Wandering River Style) Somer Teeth Jones Bigger Hat Than You Tossed Feed (Pig Feed) Sonnia Flameburst Flame Wall (Cherufe's Imprint) Cherufe's Shackle (The Mask) Grounded Magic (Counterspell Aura) Sparks Packed With Explosives Snow Storm Ice Tornado Sun Quiang A Recitation of the Essential Formulae Tara Whispers From Darkness (Eternal Journey) Pull The Void (Knowledge of Eternity) Faces In The Void (Obliteration Symbiote) The Brewmaster Hangover Obey Pick Yer Poison (Binge) Blaaargh (Hold Their Hair Back) The Captain Airburst Wind Wall The Dreamer Empty Night The Firestarter Ignition BUUUURRRN! Twirling With The Gas Can The First Mate Menacing Croak Titania A Wicked Silence Bloody Command An Audience With The Queen (An Audience With The Queen) Trixiebelle Gremlin "Lure" Ulix Slop 'Em Up Sooey! Shot in the Rear (Huntin' Bow) Vasilisa Obey Viktoria of Ashes/Blood Sisters In Fury (Sisters In Fury) Vincent St Clair Funeral Pyre Widow Weaver Exhale Terror Seize Prey Wong Lightning Jump Three Demon Bag (Three Demon Bag) Wrath King of the Delta (Deal At The Crossroads) Yan Lo Spirit Barrage Lightning Dance Terracotta Curse (Ash Ascendant) Zipp Grab A Rope! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Passerine Posted September 23, 2016 Report Share Posted September 23, 2016 The child with Leveticus would be good if didn't mean you had to replace his waifs. But since since Leveticus got Cuddled he's not so dependent on burning his health, so it might be viable, maybe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hydranixx Posted September 23, 2016 Report Share Posted September 23, 2016 A single copy of his Unmaking attack? Even if it hits (you're Ca 4, so it's unlikely) he's probably on a double or triple negative flip for damage and can't use Levi's upgrades. I don't see why that would be worth stones paying for, even if it didn't prevent him taking his two free Waifs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoylentRobot Posted September 23, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 23, 2016 Yup, Leveticus is probably the worst choice for the Child, but I included him for completeness sake Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eclipse Posted September 23, 2016 Report Share Posted September 23, 2016 Not only Levi, but also Lynch and Vic of Ashes are where the child would be a very queer choice as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freman Posted September 23, 2016 Report Share Posted September 23, 2016 Ashes' bespoke totem is the Student of Conflict (who is also a Merc and can be taken by everyone). Blood is her Hench(wo)man, so there's nothing peculiar about taking the Child with her. Huggy of course is a totem and Henchman, so taking the Child instead of him would be strange. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argentbadger Posted September 23, 2016 Report Share Posted September 23, 2016 13 hours ago, Eclipse said: Not only Levi, but also Lynch and Vic of Ashes are where the child would be a very queer choice as well I use the Malifaux Child with Viktoria of Ashes all the time. It doesn't replace Viktoria of Blood as she is a Henchman not a Totem. Casting Sisters in Fury from a position of safety (and not using up a master AP) is really useful. However, in the late game I usually end up casting it with Viktoria of Ashes anyway as I need my Whirlwind-ing done straight away. I must admit that I've never even tried the Malifaux Child with Leveticus, but as pointed out by Hydranixx it would be a tough choice to replace 2 free Hollow Waifs with something that is more expensive and seemingly less useful. Edit: thanks to SoylentRobot for putting in the hard work for this list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eclipse Posted September 23, 2016 Report Share Posted September 23, 2016 4 hours ago, Argentbadger said: I use the Malifaux Child with Viktoria of Ashes all the time. It doesn't replace Viktoria of Blood as she is a Henchman not a Totem. Casting Sisters in Fury from a position of safety (and not using up a master AP) is really useful. However, in the late game I usually end up casting it with Viktoria of Ashes anyway as I need my Whirlwind-ing done straight away. I must admit that I've never even tried the Malifaux Child with Leveticus, but as pointed out by Hydranixx it would be a tough choice to replace 2 free Hollow Waifs with something that is more expensive and seemingly less useful. My mistake there then, I forgot that she is a Henchman, but not a Totem. Similarly to you, an interesting thought I had was replacing Shenlong's Peasants with the Child, if only for the novelty achievement. Never did it for the same reasons. Maybe some day thought... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hydranixx Posted September 28, 2016 Report Share Posted September 28, 2016 I wonder if the once-per-turn stipulation on Whispered Secret would apply to both Molly's version and the Malifaux Child's version of the spell if he copies it from her i.e could they both cast it, or would one not be allowed to cast it if the other already has attempted to cast it this turn? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solkan Posted September 28, 2016 Report Share Posted September 28, 2016 1 hour ago, hydranixx said: I wonder if the once-per-turn stipulation on Whispered Secret would apply to both Molly's version and the Malifaux Child's version of the spell if he copies it from her i.e could they both cast it, or would one not be allowed to cast it if the other already has attempted to cast it this turn? From the Rules Manual, page 37: Quote Once Per Turn Actions Some Actions note that they can only be taken “once per Turn.” This only refers to the individual model. Although the model may only take the Action once per Turn, other models may still take the Action. Note the FAQ, though: Quote 15) Some Actions say they can only be taken once per Turn. If a model takes an Action which states it can only be taken once per Turn and fails, can it take the Action again? What if another model uses an Action such as Obey on the model, can it take the Action again? If a Trigger allows the model to take the Action, can it be used to take the Action a second time? No. A model which has an Action with the “once per Turn” restriction may only take that Action once per Turn. Same answer for Actions which are “once per Activation.” So if Malifaux Child copies the action or takes it itself, then both Malifaux Child and Molly can each take the same "once per turn" action (each model performs the action once). But Molly can't take the "once per turn" action once during her activation and then be caused to take the action a second time later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hydranixx Posted September 28, 2016 Report Share Posted September 28, 2016 Even so, the threat of two potential casts of Whispered Secret is intriguing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoylentRobot Posted October 7, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 7, 2016 Added more stuff from Ripples of Fate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jam Warrior Posted October 7, 2016 Report Share Posted October 7, 2016 Going by a strict reading of the rules, errated child can't use Lucius' Issue Command as it names Austringers. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabbitknight Posted October 7, 2016 Report Share Posted October 7, 2016 4 hours ago, Jam Warrior said: Going by a strict reading of the rules, errated child can't use Lucius' Issue Command as it names Austringers. That is correct. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoylentRobot Posted October 7, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 7, 2016 thats true, cheers, ive removed Issue Command from the list Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddywhack Posted October 7, 2016 Report Share Posted October 7, 2016 Am I crazy? I thought the Child could only copy a friendly Master's abilities? You've got a lot of henchman on that list (Sybelle, Sensie Yu, Sebastian). I don't have the card handy - have I been misreading it this whole time? Never mind. I see you mention if Henchman are leading a crew. I never play that size game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoylentRobot Posted October 7, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 7, 2016 9 minutes ago, Paddywhack said: Am I crazy? I thought the Child could only copy a friendly Master's abilities? You've got a lot of henchman on that list (Sybelle, Sensie Yu, Sebastian). I don't have the card handy - have I been misreading it this whole time? Never mind. I see you mention if Henchman are leading a crew. I never play that size game. Yeah, the card says the Child can copy its Leader's cast actions, not Master's, so if youve got a Henchman in charge it'll still work Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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