Somnicide Posted September 1, 2014 Report Share Posted September 1, 2014 Perdita, Frank and Santiago just all do so dang much damage. It's scenario by annihilation. Nothing else really to add, I just hate them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupercal Posted September 1, 2014 Report Share Posted September 1, 2014 I FEEL you my man. Deep inside, I feel you. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sybaris Posted September 1, 2014 Report Share Posted September 1, 2014 add some austringers, while at it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgraz Posted September 1, 2014 Report Share Posted September 1, 2014 Ahhhh.....yes........tears of the Neverborn due to my beloved Ortegas are the sweetest. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupercal Posted September 1, 2014 Report Share Posted September 1, 2014 Ahhhh.....yes........tears of the Neverborn due to my beloved Ortegas are the sweetest. But we still got Tuco! The rest is only a matter of time. Demoness Perdita anyone? She would probably oust Lilith and become the new leader of the Nephilim. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgraz Posted September 1, 2014 Report Share Posted September 1, 2014 She would probably oust Lilith and become the new leader of the Nephilim. Fixed that for you. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rgarbonzo Posted September 1, 2014 Report Share Posted September 1, 2014 The "other" Neverborn faction has an answer for that... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgraz Posted September 1, 2014 Report Share Posted September 1, 2014 The "other" Neverborn faction has an answer for that... That's not a real faction........ 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daemonkin Posted September 1, 2014 Report Share Posted September 1, 2014 @Dgraz ouch burned! D. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StaticVortex Posted September 1, 2014 Report Share Posted September 1, 2014 Zorida and Juju with eternal fiend and fears given form alongside many swampfiends creates a Juju recycling center. Latigos like to kill stuff...swampfiends like to die, delivering Juju in their face. End of game: Only Latigo left alive is Dita surrounded by the body parts of her family. Many swampiends dead, and Juju dead many times. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirial Posted September 1, 2014 Report Share Posted September 1, 2014 Things I don't like when playing Ortegas: Lilith (stupid wood markers - grrrrrr) Depleted (thousands of little guys, and none die to 1 shot - ugh) Zoraida (basically what StaticVortex said, but Obey on Papa - arrgh) Hm, in general I don't like anybody who doesn't come out for a fair fight. Come on, guys, it's called a Mexican Standoff! All that hiding and trickery is no fun! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupercal Posted September 1, 2014 Report Share Posted September 1, 2014 Ah yes, Obey on Papa... Good times... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scirian Posted September 1, 2014 Report Share Posted September 1, 2014 Perdita, Frank and Santiago just all do so dang much damage. It's scenario by annihilation. Nothing else really to add, I just hate them. I feel ya. Abuela is my current frustration. With her introduction the synergy of the crew became numbing for me. The movement shenanigans, the negative twists, the damage. I feel like I'm in the movie Wanted. "Bend the bullet." There's no way...............I'm dead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linus Mcmold Posted September 1, 2014 Report Share Posted September 1, 2014 I also discovered they hate Bad Juju and a list with a lot of swampfiends... Actually - Bad Juju + well hidden Spawn Mother list made the Latigo player scream "Broken!" and forbade me to play it against him ever again.EDIT - I've seen this later on Zorida and Juju with eternal fiend and fears given form alongside many swampfiends creates a Juju recycling center. Latigos like to kill stuff...swampfiends like to die, delivering Juju in their face. End of game: Only Latigo left alive is Dita surrounded by the body parts of her family. Many swampiends dead, and Juju dead many times. I had the same response to Ditas crew as you had, but she didn't make it to see the ending in my case. I remember only one left alive was the Enslaved Nephilim. I think I have liberated him from the evil humans + Obey on Papa makes him loose some cards for later Juju fun. Also I nominated Spawn Mother for Frame for Murder. Much pain was delivered. On a pro-Latigo note. I've got the unassembled plastic crew myself and I can't wait for new Abuela to get released. I hope they're good with Lone marshal and death marshals in specific games against Ressers. I love the minis even if they are mostly good for killFaux. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirial Posted September 2, 2014 Report Share Posted September 2, 2014 On a pro-Latigo note. I've got the unassembled plastic crew myself and I can't wait for new Abuela to get released. I hope they're good with Lone marshal and death marshals in specific games against Ressers. I love the minis even if they are mostly good for killFaux. Now, that's completely unfair! They can also deny interact actions and deliver melee models! They will kill you while they do it, granted. By the way, Death Marshals work like a charm with them, not just against Ressers. When I take Papa, I would never leave the house without a Marshal. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linus Mcmold Posted September 2, 2014 Report Share Posted September 2, 2014 @Dirial: You mean, you use boxed Papa? Like deliver him over to the enemy? That sounds interesting. Currently I only have Miss Terious, but I'll get a few more if I get Tara I'm going to make the big crouching one have a normal face. I'm just speaking from experience, the other Latigo player just wants to kill stuff. But he's young and still learning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirial Posted September 2, 2014 Report Share Posted September 2, 2014 @Dirial: You mean, you use boxed Papa? Like deliver him over to the enemy? That sounds interesting. Sure do. Death Marshals solve all of Papa's problems. He cannot explode in your crew while in the box, he cannot be obeyed, he cannot be shot. He gets way faster, and he doesn't have to stay near Dita while keeping up "Hold This". It works wonders. One of my opponents always jokes that he is surprised every time I don't field that combo with any Guild Master (which is only slightly exaggerated). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StaticVortex Posted September 2, 2014 Report Share Posted September 2, 2014 I also discovered they hate Bad Juju and a list with a lot of swampfiends... Actually - Bad Juju + well hidden Spawn Mother list made the Latigo player scream "Broken!" and forbade me to play it against him ever again.EDIT - read this later on I had the same response to Ditas crew as you had, but she didn't make it to see the ending in my case. I remember only one left alive was the Enslaved Nephilim. I think I have liberated him from the evil humans + Obey on Papa makes him loose some cards for later Juju fun. Also I nominated Spawn Mother for Frame for Murder. Much pain was delivered. On a pro-Latigo note. I've got the unassembled plastic crew myself and I can't wait for new Abuela to get released. I hope they're good with Lone marshal and death marshals in specific games against Ressers. I love the minis even if they are mostly good for killFaux. In one of my first games facing the Latigos, I ignored the Enslaved Nephilim. I choose poorly. Since then, I've learned to move against the Enslaved Nephilim early game to limit movement shenanigans for the family. Otherwise, they could miss out on all the fun Fears Given Form can be. I'd hate to deny them that opportunity 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HowNot2Wargame Posted September 2, 2014 Report Share Posted September 2, 2014 Yeah I took papa in the DM taxi whilst Sonnia had 'hold this'. He kept on telling me he had a little bit of sick in his mouth lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viruk Posted September 2, 2014 Report Share Posted September 2, 2014 In my last game against Misaki I started by pineboxing Papa and moved the Marshal on (unimpeded helps a lot). Unfortunately for me, I had lousy flips in later turns and Papa got unburied in turn 4, which was way too late (I took "Frame for Murder" ion him). But I agree, that to damage for Dita works extremely well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bodiless Posted September 4, 2014 Report Share Posted September 4, 2014 Something I've been curious about for a while now - when your opponent declares Guild, how heavily do people tend to build against the possibility of facing Ortegas? For example, if you had access to the models for the Swampfiend Recycling lists given above would you reach for it just in case your opponent dropped Perdita and company? Or do you feel like you can build for the scenario and schemes and still deal with Perdita if she does appear? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgraz Posted September 4, 2014 Report Share Posted September 4, 2014 I don't think it's really any different than facing anyone else. If Sonnia drops you're going to face just as much shooting. You can't really build your crew based on what the enemy master might be......I think you build your crew bases on strats/schemes/terrain and then just deal with what you face.....better to just take a well-rounded crew in my opinion. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StaticVortex Posted September 4, 2014 Report Share Posted September 4, 2014 I tend to build for the strats/schemes, though sometimes I just want to try out a master or some new idea and will go with that even though it may not be the 'best' choice to gain VP. Some of the games I look back on fondly and had the most fun are games where I lost in epic fashion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirial Posted September 4, 2014 Report Share Posted September 4, 2014 Something I've been curious about for a while now - when your opponent declares Guild, how heavily do people tend to build against the possibility of facing Ortegas? For example, if you had access to the models for the Swampfiend Recycling lists given above would you reach for it just in case your opponent dropped Perdita and company? Or do you feel like you can build for the scenario and schemes and still deal with Perdita if she does appear? Yeah, what dgraz and StaticVortex said. If you face Guild, you will probably face shooting. Take some anti-shooting and build for your objectives. No need to plan for Ortegas differently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bodiless Posted September 4, 2014 Report Share Posted September 4, 2014 So would people consider the Swampfiend Recycling list as a solid anti-Guild build in general? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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