Stinkmunk Posted August 17, 2013 Report Share Posted August 17, 2013 Bayou gremlin is the same, although Squeal! Got better. It now is High Pitched Squeal and triggers regardless of whether the Ml attack against the gremlin was successful. ---------- Post added at 11:34 PM ---------- Previous post was at 11:32 PM ---------- Hog Whisperer is the same but costs 5. ---------- Post added at 11:40 PM ---------- Previous post was at 11:34 PM ---------- The flame thrower gun comes with a (1) move and Burn! Similar to the freikorps specialist but targeting kin. The horror causing gun comes with (0) Move it! Which lets Ophelia force a kin to perform an action. The seeker gun come with a (0) Your Turn! Which lets Ophelia place a kin somewhere else within 8". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rgarbonzo Posted August 17, 2013 Report Share Posted August 17, 2013 Bayou gremlin is the same, although Squeal! Got better. It now is High Pitched Squeal and triggers regardless of whether the Ml attack against the gremlin was successful. ---------- Post added at 11:34 PM ---------- Previous post was at 11:32 PM ---------- Hog Whisperer is the same but costs 5. ---------- Post added at 11:40 PM ---------- Previous post was at 11:34 PM ---------- The flame thrower gun comes with a (1) move and Burn! Similar to the freikorps specialist but targeting kin. The horror causing gun comes with (0) Move it! Which lets Ophelia force a kin to perform an action. The seeker gun come with a (0) Your Turn! Which lets Ophelia place a kin somewhere else within 8". Hog Whisperer actually lost a point of Df and gained a pt of Melee and now costs 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skyfire Posted August 17, 2013 Report Share Posted August 17, 2013 I heard that Avatar rules are included in the M2e rulebook (not 100% sure on this). Could someone plz give a brief review for those who have not yet gotten the book? Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malicte Posted August 17, 2013 Report Share Posted August 17, 2013 The quick and dirty version of the new avatar rules: Avatars are upgrades. They grant a passive bonus before manifesting. You choose one of five manifest types. We haven't seen any of these yet. When you accomplish your chosen manifest requirement, you can manifest. Push everyone back, replace model, flip avatar upgrade over and get a super upgrade. Retain normal stats in addition to super upgrade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stinkmunk Posted August 17, 2013 Report Share Posted August 17, 2013 Avatar is still the same character, so all conditions carry across. ---------- Post added at 11:57 PM ---------- Previous post was at 11:56 PM ---------- Hog Whisperer actually lost a point of Df and gained a pt of Melee and now costs 5 Again, my apologies for inaccuracies on this... The last set of low res cards were different from the high res in some cases I suppose? I only have the low res beta final week to Compare with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joel Posted August 17, 2013 Report Share Posted August 17, 2013 Did sorrows change at all? Any changes to what is henchman/enforcer/minion/peon in neverborn? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stinkmunk Posted August 17, 2013 Report Share Posted August 17, 2013 Sorrows unchanged to my eyes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joel Posted August 17, 2013 Report Share Posted August 17, 2013 Yay! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malicte Posted August 17, 2013 Report Share Posted August 17, 2013 Only classification change I see in Neverborn at a quick once over is Huggy now a Henchman who can lead crews. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stinkmunk Posted August 17, 2013 Report Share Posted August 17, 2013 And the stations seem unchanged, except for Huggy of course. Who can be taken as a Neverborn Henchman (but only either with Lynch or as his own crew Leader). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joel Posted August 17, 2013 Report Share Posted August 17, 2013 Cool. Any changes to pandora's upgrades? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
decker_cky Posted August 17, 2013 Report Share Posted August 17, 2013 Hog whisperer was Df5 Ml5 in both sets of the last beta cards. Are those stats changed? Or just the cost? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rgarbonzo Posted August 17, 2013 Report Share Posted August 17, 2013 (edited) HW is now DF 4 and ML 6 cost 5 Any other M2E questions whilst I still have the book open in front of me... oh and yes I got ERicJ, Justin and Mack to sign it, I asked Mack to sign it Mack "Dammit" Martin and he did! Edited August 17, 2013 by rgarbonzo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stinkmunk Posted August 17, 2013 Report Share Posted August 17, 2013 Hog whisperer was Df5 Ml5 in both sets of the last beta cards. Are those stats changed? Or just the cost? Changed like Bonzo said. ---------- Post added at 12:14 AM ---------- Previous post was at 12:12 AM ---------- Sorrowful upgrades unchanged. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zFiend Posted August 17, 2013 Report Share Posted August 17, 2013 I would like to know the new ss cost for hungering darkness? Or is it still 3? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rgarbonzo Posted August 17, 2013 Report Share Posted August 17, 2013 it is 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stinkmunk Posted August 17, 2013 Report Share Posted August 17, 2013 With a cache of 5. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hackdZ Posted August 17, 2013 Report Share Posted August 17, 2013 it is 0 Wow 0...really? Not sure how I feel about that? (and I play Jacob as my main) There were some concerns in the group I played the beta with that HD was too good for his SS cost of 3. I guess they're either balancing it vs the new revive mechanics mentioned earlier in this thread. (Bury, heal, Unbury, just like Levi) Or, they've changed some of his stats around? Is this the case? - Curious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BodPud Posted August 17, 2013 Report Share Posted August 17, 2013 Lady J. has had some abilities on upgrades shuffled around. Vendetta style is now the Onslaught trigger upgrade. Just Onslaught or together with old Vendetta Style ability? With Me! and Unimpeded are now together. Justice Unleashed and Last Rites are together. Implacable has not changed. What's the cost of her new upgrades? Any changes for Greatsword? Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
96p Posted August 17, 2013 Report Share Posted August 17, 2013 any changes on mc mourning and/or Transfusion ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parker Barrows Posted August 17, 2013 Report Share Posted August 17, 2013 I believe someone said earlier that there was none (or least not anything major). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guardian Posted August 17, 2013 Report Share Posted August 17, 2013 Any defensive changes to LJ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zFiend Posted August 17, 2013 Report Share Posted August 17, 2013 it is 0 What? 0? What is the point of that? I found him way too Op for 3ss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JakubT Posted August 17, 2013 Report Share Posted August 17, 2013 Any changes to Mei Feng and Foundry models? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sqir666 Posted August 17, 2013 Report Share Posted August 17, 2013 Man, the more I read this the more excited I get for M2E. I would greatly appreciate all reader spoilers you can give. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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