I have just brought this up in a Terraclips thread, and I wanted as many people to see this, and actually have a proper look at the rules. Everyone has been saying spirits can move through buildings, and through floors on a Terraclips board (or a similar setup) when Im fairly sure they can't. Any responses are welcome, so we can clear this up. If I'm correct, this will help reduce the effectiveness (cheating) of spirits on a TC board.
"Im gonna have to bring this up, as everyone says how easy it is for spirits on a TC board. Can someone give me the exact pages which state that spirits can move so easily through a building.
I have been looking through the rules, and a building counts as blocking and impassable. Spirits and float allow you to move over blocking and impassable terrain. That doesn't mean you can float THROUGH a door or floor. You could obviously move onto a balcony, or onto the roof, but NOT straight into the building. If there is a ground floor with a door, and a wall around it, and then another floor, with a surrounding wall (as is normal for buildings) and finally a roof, you would only be able to move onto the roof, as the rest is blocking and impassable. Same with a floor within a building, it is blocking and impassable, but you aren't able to move OVER it, as there will generally be four surrounding walls. The only way is to climb up stairs. The only thing a spirit can move through is other models.
"Spirit: Models with the spirit characteristic are non-living models that can move through other models and do not block LOS. Spirits can move over and stop on impassable terrain...."
With this, you could stop on the side of a wall (with the help of blu tac) but thats all.
"Terrain: Structures are enclosed pieces of terrain, typically buildings of some sort. Effect: Structures have the elevated (and a HT), impassable, and blocking traits. Structures also have one or more entrances and windows.Entrances do not have the impassable trait and are the only way a model can enter a structure through a movement effect. Models inside a structure move as if it was open terrain. (Personal note: This clearly is regarding moving around on each floor, so there are no movement penalties. The physical parts (floors and walls) are still blocking and impassable). Windows are impassable and blocking but have a Ht of 1. Structures may possess multiple levels and, if so, models inside the structure may move between levels as if the structure had the climbable trait. (Personal note: This is regarding going up stairs, or if a building doesn't have stairs within it. If this was the case, the players would agree that all models pay the movement effect.) Entrances can require a (1) Interact to open or close doors if players wish."
Im very sure there is no mention of spirits just moving THROUGH things, or going wherever they please. Methinks there has been a slight amount of people reading what they want to read. :Smug_Puppet1: But if you think I'm wrong, please direct me to the entries that argue against this. And this isn't targeted at any one person, I think as a community people thought spirits could move through terrain, when that is not the case."
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I have just brought this up in a Terraclips thread, and I wanted as many people to see this, and actually have a proper look at the rules. Everyone has been saying spirits can move through buildings, and through floors on a Terraclips board (or a similar setup) when Im fairly sure they can't. Any responses are welcome, so we can clear this up. If I'm correct, this will help reduce the effectiveness (cheating) of spirits on a TC board.
"Im gonna have to bring this up, as everyone says how easy it is for spirits on a TC board. Can someone give me the exact pages which state that spirits can move so easily through a building.
I have been looking through the rules, and a building counts as blocking and impassable. Spirits and float allow you to move over blocking and impassable terrain. That doesn't mean you can float THROUGH a door or floor. You could obviously move onto a balcony, or onto the roof, but NOT straight into the building. If there is a ground floor with a door, and a wall around it, and then another floor, with a surrounding wall (as is normal for buildings) and finally a roof, you would only be able to move onto the roof, as the rest is blocking and impassable. Same with a floor within a building, it is blocking and impassable, but you aren't able to move OVER it, as there will generally be four surrounding walls. The only way is to climb up stairs. The only thing a spirit can move through is other models.
"Spirit: Models with the spirit characteristic are non-living models that can move through other models and do not block LOS. Spirits can move over and stop on impassable terrain...."
With this, you could stop on the side of a wall (with the help of blu tac) but thats all.
"Terrain: Structures are enclosed pieces of terrain, typically buildings of some sort. Effect: Structures have the elevated (and a HT), impassable, and blocking traits. Structures also have one or more entrances and windows.Entrances do not have the impassable trait and are the only way a model can enter a structure through a movement effect. Models inside a structure move as if it was open terrain. (Personal note: This clearly is regarding moving around on each floor, so there are no movement penalties. The physical parts (floors and walls) are still blocking and impassable). Windows are impassable and blocking but have a Ht of 1. Structures may possess multiple levels and, if so, models inside the structure may move between levels as if the structure had the climbable trait. (Personal note: This is regarding going up stairs, or if a building doesn't have stairs within it. If this was the case, the players would agree that all models pay the movement effect.) Entrances can require a (1) Interact to open or close doors if players wish."
Im very sure there is no mention of spirits just moving THROUGH things, or going wherever they please. Methinks there has been a slight amount of people reading what they want to read. :Smug_Puppet1: But if you think I'm wrong, please direct me to the entries that argue against this. And this isn't targeted at any one person, I think as a community people thought spirits could move through terrain, when that is not the case."
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