magicpockets

I really like you Joel, just don't confuse tolerance with ignorance. You acknowledge our relative positions are different, so bear in mind Wyrd releasing a FAQ (once again with numerous issues in it, but that's another conversation) within the first few months of you starting Malifaux doesn't make them "responsive" - it just makes it a "coincidence". You're new to the game, you're enthusiastic, you're competitive and you've bought into the game heart and soul - much like I did when I first started playing 3 or 4 years ago. But don't let that blinker you to objective reality, that way lies fanboyism *wink* And for the record, it's more than three players who've shelved their fate decks. For example (in terms of people you know) aka_hazard who you met at the tournament in Cranfield is also on a very long "break" from the game - again because of Wyrd's inability to sort the rules out. And that's just one example. ---------- Post added at 09:48 PM ---------- Previous post was at 09:42 PM ---------- FOR F**KS SAKE!!!! Why does everyone immediately put winning with Hamelin down to his crew being broken and the player devoid of skill? This is a prime example of the problem Wyrd have created. Two things I've noticed. There are a lot of people coming out of the woodwork who've quit or are quitting the game, and the biggest defenders of Malifaux and the system are people who are new to the game (the old guard so to speak seem to be quite "understanding" of the points we're raising). Ignorance is bliss yo...

I think the fact we have very few (if any) cheering fanboys over here any more, even some of the people most supportive of Wyrd in the past have commented publicly or privately about their dissatisfaction with the game now (I'll leave the private ones to chip in themselves - you know who you are *wink*). There seems to be a much stronger "we love Wyrd" contingent across the pond, and let's not forget despite the UK's apparent position in the world, you have more people in California that we have in our entire country - so a simultaneous exodus form what is actually a small community will appear disproportionally "big". Plus, there is of course a cultural difference between the UK and the USA in how we approach/tolerate things - we see the world through different perspectives (and I'm not saying one is better than the other as I LOVE certain aspects of the American outlook - just pointing something out we often overlook this day in age)

Pretty much sums up my view, but a lot politer than I would have put it. I think Wyrd have really dropped the ball putting $$$ before the game and it's players. For my 2p worth, I'm retiring for an unspecified time although (like Ian I presume) I will dust of the minis for the odd tournament just for the social side. Hell, if it wasn't for the people involved in the Malifaux scene I think this would have come a lot sooner. Not sure on Ian's source but I know our LGS (bearing in mind we're one of the largest local Malifaux communities behind Harrogate afaik) has stopped stocking it because (rough quote) "there are no new players. Every game gets a burst of new players and then stagnantes with the core carrying it on. Malifaux is over" I still see new players, but I find I'm missing a lot more old players on here and at events.

Does that mean everyone effectively now has scout?

Am certainly not evil And like I said, it was a GT so all bets were off. I'd never pull that in a friendly game (unless it was against UKRocky cos he deserves it)

I do, but Wyrd wrote the rules as well as the fluff. If they don't match in your opinion you should be taking that up with Wyrd, not complaining about ME when I do something in a tournament which is perfectly legit. Sorry if that seems ranty but I don't think it's fair to criticize me for playing fairly *wink*

Book 1.5 I think *wink*

Or play on Terraclips which (despite having doors which are ingeniously too small for bases to fit through) have 1" markings on them. A little bit of trigonometry goes a LONG way then

Strongly disagree with this, that's half of the point of Malifaux. If I want to sacrifice my 10ss model to avoid you getting 2vp and play with a handicap that should be my decision. Also, me doing that to you is the risk you take for announcing the scheme for the extra VP - don't want the risk, you only get 1vp my friend.

^^ In that case you would, didn't know the wording was that precise

Giant killer teddies, children with carving knives, undead hookers.... and you want to label a master killing themselves to avoid a scheme "silly"? Welcome to Malifaux sir, take a seat - it's going to be a bumpy ride ---------- Post added at 10:23 AM ---------- Previous post was at 10:23 AM ---------- Nothing a few beers can't solve *wink*

Any rat within 4" of an activating rat (not just the initial activating rat) has to activate at the same time a la companion. It's very rare you get more than one or two groups of rats activating

^^ You're preaching to the choir with that mate

Because Voracious Rats says no models can be summoned other than rats, you don't need to get a rat for it to come into effect

^^ Exactly. And as for the "impossibility" of schemes like Kill Protegee (mentioned above), can I just remind you you don't have to announce them. If you want the extra VP, you run the risk of someone making it impossible for you - that's why you get an extra VP

How is my example (Levi/Collodi) playing broken rules? It was a specific opportunity that came up in a perfect storm of factions/strategy/schemes - if you "warned" me for that in a serious tournament I'd tell you to... well, I'm sure I don't need to spell it out. Don't hate the player, hate the game *wink*

Read my sig *wink* EDIT: I just changed my sig so, erm, ignore this

No .....wrong game term and incorrect advice....

^^ Personally this feels too complex for what will be an errata - I still stand by "rats cannot activate on the turn they are summoned" as an elegant fix to the rat swarm problem

It really depends on the tournament to be honest, there's very few hyper competitive tournaments where things like this would be deemed "reasonable" (GTs and Masters mainly). But it IS part of Malifaux I'm afraid, same as completing Treasure Hunt in one activation (with the Treasure back in my deployment zone) and 4VPs from Shared Destroy the Evidence in one activation. Some times you play for fun, and some times you play to win. The way I see it is if you're playing to win, don;t be a d*ck about it and everyone's happy

You also dont have a second waif in there^^ Try leaving one of the riders and taking a canine remains, some SS and an SPA to turn into the last rider once Levi manifests.

Yeah, I did post the question in the new FAQ section at the time but it got conveniently ignored (even though other questions I raised at the same time got answered). As it stands, you can sacrifice your Master - which is (surprise surprise) most useful to Hamelin as he can now teleport across the board to Stolen almost at will. And re Sketch, I've been told he's no longer with Wyrd.

You can't, and you wouldn't get a waif in 5) either

Could be worse, he could have killed her *wink* On a serious note, Lillith has a hard time against Hamelin as her crew is heavily Black Blood based. That said, I'd be transpositioning the Rat Catchers out of the swarm and.... well, if I need to explain it any further

I really hate to tell you your wrong (as you invented everything about playing Hamelin and without you I'd never have won the UK Masters with him) but Damage Reduction flips prevent wounds, not damage. Also, we've always played it (including against Ratty) that you suffer the initial wounds first (as it says "suffers") and THEN you do the extra wound form the blight counter. Not fun for you if you have Hard to Kill For the record, everything else in this thread is correct *wink*